SIRKO Paper Cut

00:00:00 of all i find and show i find and show

00:00:00 of all i find and show i find and show Maybe this one.

00:01:15 Nikita? Together with him. The surgeons are leading the way. Thank you very much. Can you close the door? The next. You can sit here. Oops.

00:02:20 It's a very pleasant, great time today. Those of you who see, to greet us with our national. I consider it important, a great holiday, the Day of the State Flag of Ukraine. We don't just celebrate, but we must know our symbols, which are so precious. Our courageous people on the front, our courageous people of Ukraine. We have many such symbols, but probably the most important are our flag, our anthem. Ukraine, our land, our armed forces, the people of Ukraine. And among our people, there are very many people, very worthy of their nation.

00:03:08 I would like you to understand this word very correctly. This is gratitude for the fact that you have glorified our nation, our history, for the fact that today you work, you serve, you defend our nation, our borders. [VO CANDIDATE] Our borders. I to you...

00:03:30 We together are very, very grateful to you for this. And I wish you only victory. I won't wish you health. I know you have enough of it for the main goal, for victory. And most of all I wish the best health, certainly, health. And I wish it to your relatives, your loved ones, because your confidence in yourself depends on this. So that you think only about Ukraine.

00:04:00 And once again I want to congratulate you. The main words, I'm sure, I will be saying to you all evening today. It's clear that probably this is not enough, but nevertheless, you know, that everyone values you highly, the whole nation is grateful to you. I say this with confidence. Glory to you and glory to Ukraine! [VO CANDIDATE]

00:04:23 By decree of the President of Ukraine for outstanding personal merits in establishing independent Ukraine and strengthening its statehood, significant contribution to the development of national arts, healthcare, fruitful charitable and public activity, selfless service to the Ukrainian people. Awarded the distinction of the President of Ukraine, National Legend of Ukraine. Huk Iryna Oleksandrivna, volunteer, director of the charitable organization "Leleka Ukraine Charitable Foundation." Letenka Volodymyr Anatoliyovych, engineer of Kramatorsk linear production management of main gas pipelines, Gas Transmission System Operator of Ukraine company, Donetsk region.

00:05:11 Petrenenko Taras Harinovych, Ukrainian musician, singer, composer, poet, People's Artist of Ukraine.

00:05:37 Very well deserved.

00:05:48 thank you yeah just replay the part where you get your award because you're a film of you guys I say this with confidence. Glory to you and glory to Ukraine!

00:06:16 By decree of the President of Ukraine for outstanding personal merits, in establishing independent Ukraine and strengthening its statehood, significant contribution to the development of national arts, healthcare, fruitful charitable and public activity, selfless service to the Ukrainian people, awarded the distinction of the President of Ukraine National Legend of Ukraine. Huk Iryna Oleksandrivna, volunteer, director of the charitable organization "Leleka Ukraine Charitable Foundation." Letenka Volodymyr Anatoliyovych, engineer of Kramatorsk linear production management of main gas pipelines, Gas Transmission System Operator of Ukraine company, Donetsk region.

00:07:03 Petrenenko Taras Harinovych, Ukrainian musician, singer, composer, poet, People's Artist of Ukraine. Sirko Andriy Hryhorovych, neurosurgeon, head of the Center of Cerebral Neurosurgery of Dnipropetrovsk,

00:07:25 Regional Clinical Hospital named after Mechnikov of the Dnipropetrovsk Regional Council.

00:07:33 If you remember, I showed...

00:07:37 [INAUDIBLE] If you remember, we worked until today, I showed you. This is the product of our team.

00:07:55 Okay? Good. If you remember, I showed you... Yes, remember, he showed us. I mean, how did it feel to win that award and meet Zelensky? I mean, how did it feel to win that award and meet Zelensky?

00:08:06 One more? How did it feel to win the award and meet Zelensky? I was the most happy person, people in the world in this time, because it's a proud, it's

00:08:20 a honor to be in the center of our capital of Kyiv, capital of Ukraine. It's a honor for me, for my team, for my Mechnikov hospital. It's really, it's really, it's inspired to more and more new activities, duties for our people, for our soldiers, for our heroes, for our defenders. It's really after I come back in Dnepro at least two three weeks I was like not walking I flyer it's true and they said I couldn't to perform mistake some wrongs I need to perform as best

00:09:07 the best because I became a legend of Ukraine national legend of Ukraine and also I sent you

00:09:14 in our group this video you can cut if you would like to use it.

00:09:21 What does that mean to you? A national legend of Ukraine? It's maybe highest award, President award, and this was created this award after the start full-scale military invasion the first ceremony was in 2022 second 2023 it's near our holiday day independence of ukraine it's this time this one this dependency of ukraine in the Before this is the day of our flag.

00:10:08 This was this day, our Ukrainian flag. It was a lot in Kyiv and I was invited, my wife invited, and my two sons, by Bohdan said, maybe Bohdan was on duty, and say, "Father, if I will receive my own award, "I go to Kyiv, but it's your award." That's why. - Yeah, you're on your own.

00:00:00 First personal view or... First personal view or... First person view. First person view. First person view. Yes, so tell us about it and then how did you get it and all that. Now is war... quickly, fast change. The methods of war, type of weapons, is changed. Now the main weapon is drones, especially FPV drones. First person view. You can see this camera. This camera helps people to see,

00:00:49 to see what you can observe in this area and decide what needs to be done. This is like an antenna, an antenna for Wi-Fi connection, and below you can attach grenades, mines, maybe, in order to destroy and eliminate enemy personnel, buildings, houses, and various types of equipment. So I think this is a Ukrainian FPV drone. This is my gift.

00:01:43 [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT]

00:02:39 [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT]

00:03:43 [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] So when children end up in a children's hospital, both the doctors and the relatives always reach out for our consultation. For more than a month, I was in contact almost every day, advising them on what was best to do in this case. She underwent several operations, but each time these were difficult decisions, and they turned to me for help. When she started to recover, her sister's husband, he's a soldier at the front, gave me this as a memento.

00:04:30 He said, we have this almost working FPV drone. He saw the collection of those shells, the spent casings from mortars and artillery in my office. There were even fragments of a Russian drone at that time, a large piece. I'll give it to you, let it be in your collection. And how do I use this? I show it when I speak at congresses and symposiums about how the approaches to warfare have changed. Before, large tanks were used, APCs, infantry fighting vehicles, large ships, aircraft.

00:05:17 But now the war is a war of drones. Drones not only in the air, drones on land, drones in the water. [VO CANDIDATE] Drones are used for demining if they're on land, for water, these are strike drones. And many aerial drones that are used for many purposes. First of all, they can observe and gather information from the battlefield. In addition, they can carry grenades or mines attached underneath, which drop and can explode on target.

00:06:02 And they're used by both sides, both by the Russians and by the Ukrainians. And this has led to the fact that now there is no front line like we're used to seeing in movies, where there's a front line, trench by one side, trench by the other, and between them runs the front line. Now there's the so-called dead zone, it can stretch 20 to 30 kilometers. That is, it's dangerous to be in this zone because thanks to these drones, whether from one side or the other, people who are there, they are constantly under threat of being killed precisely because of these things. [VO CANDIDATE] I'm saying that the means of warfare have changed, the weapons have changed, And this deadly weapon is drones. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:06:47 Drones, which... This has led to the fact that the number of bullet wounds is constantly decreasing, while the number of injuries from drone explosions, from drone blasts is increasing. The particular feature of these wounds is that many parts of the body are affected. Not only the head, neck, extremities, torso. So this is, on one hand, a gift, but on the other hand, an illustration of modern methods of warfare. Drones are beginning to be developed that will help evacuate the wounded from the battlefield without human presence. They can be large enough for a comrade or the wounded person himself to climb onto this drone, and this drone will carry him from the battlefield.

00:07:37 These drones help, for example, people who are trapped in occupation, where you can't physically retrieve them. For example, I saw villages where people remained, and this drone helped them, showed them the path of how to best get out toward Ukrainian positions. So this is a universal weapon that didn't exist before, but now they're number one, and this will spread. If you've seen in China, they use them to stage parades, simultaneously launching hundreds of thousands of drones that are synchronized. For this you need a good Wi-Fi connection. Now, when electronic warfare systems are deployed, this works poorly,

00:08:25 so there are wired drones, and these wires allow you to guide them on these wires, and then you can't paralyze its operation, because it's connected by cable to the person who launched it. So sometimes, toward the front line, everything is crisscrossed like a spiderweb, these are all wires that stretch to such drones.

00:08:53 I'm certainly not a military analyst, I don't know the design and all the operational details, but I know that this is what is most commonly used now.

00:09:23 You already answered that. It was a gift because he was seeing a young girl.

00:09:30 Yeah.

00:09:35 Yeah, yeah, but how did she do? What was her team?

00:09:39 And what was the first question? Just tell us that it's customary to give gifts when you see a doctor here in Ukraine. And tell us about how in Ukraine when people come to doctors, they can bring gifts?

00:10:04 As I already said, the girl underwent several operations. The first operation was a decompressive craniectomy, removing part of the skull, to... I'll call them.

00:10:30 There was brain swelling, to save the brain. To save the brain, she underwent a decompressive craniectomy, they removed part of the bone. To close the defect in the skull base, they performed a skull base reconstruction. A week later she underwent surgery to remove a hematoma on the other side. Some time later she underwent shunt placement, a ventriculoperitoneal shunt for treatment of hydrocephalus. This shunt didn't work the first day, it was replaced again. Then a cranioplasty to repair the skull defect was planned. Many, many operations, and many relatives came, they were constantly calling.

00:11:18 Even on weekends, even late in the evening, 10 or 11 PM. This was a child, and the hospital didn't have the same experience as we do, so I would take the call and answer. The most interesting thing was what happened after this, like a pilgrimage, many relatives of children who saw that this girl recovered and was being treated there, they came to me. That's how it is. In those cases everything was done well, I said, thank the doctors. What does it mean to thank the doctors? In Soviet times it was believed that the main way to thank a doctor was a bottle of cognac, cognac and a box of chocolates. When I was an intern, '98, year 2000, I had a whole warehouse of cognac and lots of chocolates at home.

00:12:13 Most of them already expired. People believed that a doctor needed cognac and snacks in the form of chocolates. The gifts that I remember, I operated on a severely traumatized boy. His mother brought me a jug of moonshine, a big one, about 5 liters. She made this moonshine herself, it was white in color, I don't know what proof it was, 50-60 degrees of moonshine, and she brought a large loaf of bread. She baked it herself, that's the gift I remember most. And now, when there's a war, most people who are connected to the front, they see shells, casings, ammunition in the office,

00:13:05 And for a military person, they say, we'll find something for your collection. What you see in the office is one-tenth of what they brought. And indeed, well, this way, they understand that as a military person, a serviceman, I will never take a single penny from them, but they want to thank me somehow. So it's either icons, you saw many icons, or exactly what's connected to the front, they say for your collection, so you can have it. So two types, either icons blessed by churches, or sometimes they travel, the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem, they bring things from there, gifts.

00:13:53 There were people at a consultation, they brought hand cream from the Dead Sea. They know that for a surgeon after surgery, from the sterilization process, hands dry out a lot, so they need to be treated. And this patient I operated on twice, 10-15 years ago. They come, bring follow-up scans, I look at them, and at the same time they bring me enough cream for a year to treat my hands. [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT] Let's go.

00:00:00 It's the best of the best. We perform a lot of surgery for

00:00:00 It's the best of the best. We perform a lot of surgery for planet surgery for pituitary macrodinoma. Alex, come here. And also we operate a lot of patients with transnaizol maybe, go to the Sella Turcica bullet. Even then, from New York Times was here, we together perform surgery. - Yes, you're famous. - After that, the photo from this story and video of how we removed this bullet from the Sella Turcica, through this trans[INAUDIBLE]

00:00:59 Vitaly, whose husband was killed. What's her psychological state right now?

00:01:06 Well, good. she's being supported, yes, well, she's being supported, yes, well, of course it's hard. And they asked if she could give an interview, what do you think? She can, she can, she can, yes. She can? Svetochka, yes, she can give one. They're just preparing a documentary film, I went to the house, I showed where it was destroyed, they're asking, anyone from your relatives, acquaintances, close ones, I said, our doctor's husband was killed. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:01:30 Both her husband and her mother and father. [VO CANDIDATE] Both her husband and her mother and father. [VO CANDIDATE] Yes, she definitely can. Can I take time to call and ask. Ask, tell her that Andriy Hryhorovych, has this question, he didn't dare to ask you directly, he decided to ask through me.

00:01:46 Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. One moment, Andriy Hryhorovych. Yes, yes, no rush, I'm not rushing. About, about. One moment, hold on.

00:01:55 This is a cartoon. [INAUDIBLE] come over.

00:02:28 - Here, Andriy Hryhorovych, American correspondent, they want to interview you. They were at your house, at the memorial, and they know that you're a doctor who works with us.

00:02:37 If you can give an interview, they would take this for the American press. For the film. - For the film. - Together with the American mayor. - Yes, only on the receiving side.

00:02:50 Okay, she'll come down now. Thank you. This isn't just press, they're filming a documentary.

00:03:00 Thank you, Andriy Volodymyrovych.

00:00:00 We'll see what she's there, I think it's probably ok.

00:00:00 We'll see what she's there, I think it's probably ok. Thank you. What are you doing? It's not a situation, you can see it. What do you think that's too low? I think so. I mean, slightly higher, but better now.

00:00:23 Is this ok? Yep. - Is that a prolapse? - No.

00:00:32 - Please state your full name and confirm that you consent to being interviewed.

00:00:40 - My name is Vitalia Viktorivna, I consent to being interviewed. - Thank you, Valiko. Senko, it's very difficult for me. Please let me say a huge thank you once again for waiting, for knowing,

00:00:00 Rian Logan?

00:00:00 Rian Logan? Yep. So he just had a tracheostomy? Yeah.

00:00:15 Gloves. Let me put them on. [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] Are you ready? Yeah. Yeah. You see the reactions? It's an analog oxidation, yeah? Yeah, he just had a tracheostimation. Yes, yes. Okay. Maybe a little reactive. And some moving. Yeah. Only changed the

00:01:29 - And he is on less fentanyl? - Yes, yes, it's true. - That's good. - It's true, it's true.

00:01:39 - Yeah, he's still sedated from the trade. - We perform a lumbar puncher. Yesterday, analysis only 16 cells. Only 16 cells, it's... - Yes. And I told in the morning with the ophthalmologist, take care of this wound, eyes, every day in the morning to reach excellent, maybe it's on to heal this wound.

00:02:16 We saw him earlier before the tracheostomy. He was moving more. Yeah. I think we'll perform repeat CT tomorrow.

00:02:24 Yeah. Yeah. He's not a good person. Thank you. Thank you. All right.

00:02:30 Thank you. Let's go. And Tully. Yeah. We got good. Alex, we just wanted to get you a shot of standing at the head of the

00:00:00 [UKR-NEEDS] Скажіть, будь ласка, своє повне ім'я і підвердіть, що ви не проти, що ми з вами записуємо відеоінтерв'ю.

00:00:06 [UKR] Please state your full name and confirm that you consent to us recording this video interview with you. [UKR] Maviy Rostyslav Ruslanovych, I consent to having this interview recorded with me. [UKR] So, please tell us, where did you grow up? [UKR] I'm from the city of Pavlohrad, it's not far from Dnipro, 70 kilometers, in the direction of Donetsk Oblast. [UKR] So my city is now even closer to the front line than Dnipro. [UKR] Please tell us, what was Pavlohrad like when you were growing up, as you remember it, [UKR] and what changed from 2014 to 2022?

00:00:56 [UKR] It's a mining city, there were quite a lot of people, they held miners' holidays too, [UKR] Miner's Day - the whole city would gather and celebrate this day, it was the main holiday. [UKR] After the beginning of 2014, I wouldn't say that much changed. [UKR] The only thing you could say is that there's a road in our city that leads, you could say, from all regions of Ukraine, [UKR] of Ukraine, this road goes in the direction of Donetsk. [UKR] So through this highway, when I would travel home, when I was a student on weekends constantly,

00:01:45 [UKR] we would see the movement of military columns, that is, military equipment, and it was always like [UKR] a reflection, because the whole country was living then and wasn't thinking, you could say, about war, [UKR] and this highway was this kind of reflection that there's still war in the country, [UKR] with columns of equipment and ambulances. [UKR] So there was always some presence of war through our city.

00:02:17 [RUS] And when the full-scale invasion began,

00:02:21 [UKR] all of this only increased. [UKR] Lots of military, not only Dnipro is a hub for displaced people and military, but Pavlohrad too, [UKR] because the city itself is not small by Ukrainian standards. [UKR] And so there are also lots of displaced people and military there. [UKR] And now people are evacuating there, first of all, from Donetsk region, from Luhansk. [UKR] So the city has changed quite a bit, become militarized, you could say.

00:03:07 [UKR] And besides this, in my city there are also factories, critical infrastructure, [UKR] which since Soviet times have manufactured ammunition, explosives, [UKR] parts of intercontinental missiles. [UKR] So now everything continues there, and it's always a big target for our enemies. [UKR] And even my mother, who lived there her whole life, we moved her to Dnipro, we rent an apartment here, because it's dangerous to be there now. [UKR] When did you decide to become a doctor? [UKR] I decided to become a doctor somewhere in 10th, probably 11th grade. I was very anxious whether I could become a doctor.

00:03:59 [UKR] Although everyone said it was very difficult, I didn't promise myself that, but when you like something, you enjoy the process itself. [UKR] And so I decided that way, because I like it. [UKR] No one influenced me, no one told me, my mother said, you choose yourself what you want, I chose medicine. [UKR] Did you start working at this hospital? [UKR] At this hospital I've been in residency since 2019. [UKR] And I've been working here the whole time, that is, I worked three years as a resident, I was studying.

00:04:48 [UKR] And then in 2021 I started working as a doctor, as a neurosurgeon. [UKR] First in the emergency department, that is, I only did shifts there, and now I work one and a half positions, for example, because quite a lot of doctors left us. [UKR] Why neurosurgery specifically? [UKR] I also had that question when I was finishing university, and I really liked neurology,

00:05:30 [UKR] which is the science of nerve structures, diseases, but after working, when I was studying, I also worked on the ward, [UKR] and I worked close to people, to surgeons, urologists, who perform operations. [UKR] So I thought that for me it's closer when I don't treat as a neurologist, [UKR] that is, prescribing pills, IVs and so on, [UKR] but I really wanted to do something with my hands. [UKR] And neurosurgery is, on the one hand, nerve structures, [UKR] the brain, and on the other hand it's surgery, it's working with your hands, so I chose my life's work.

00:06:16 [UKR] Question about your surgical cap that says Chicago Bears. Why that one specifically? [UKR] Alex gave it to me as a gift and brought it, because I like it. [UKR] Next question. Your colleagues mentioned during interviews that in Ukraine it works that way, that it may not be very easy to become someone. [UKR] Question, in your opinion, is it difficult to make a name for yourself in Ukraine? [UKR] In medicine. [UKR] Well yes, in medicine in Ukraine. [UKR] Well, difficult, I don't know. For me, if a person does work that they like, then it's not difficult, probably, looking at it retrospectively.

00:07:14 [UKR] Probably yes, when you work every day and do operations at night and everything else, in the moment it's difficult. [UKR] But if you love your work, then it's not very difficult. [UKR] And earning a name - that takes years. [UKR] This, I think, in any country and in any field, if you dedicate your life to some work, and you succeed, and other people can say about you that you're a good specialist or professional, this is earned over years, it's everywhere, whether Ukraine or not Ukraine.

00:08:00 [UKR] In Ukraine there are specific difficulties in becoming, for example, a neurosurgeon now. [UKR] Because before there was residency, now there is no residency. [UKR] And this year only 12 people are studying to be neurosurgeons and that's it. [UKR] And I wouldn't say that since the start of the war in Ukraine there became more neurosurgeons, only fewer. [UKR] Because someone relocated, someone stopped working in medicine altogether, because it doesn't always have a good, how to say, good salary and good return from your work.

00:08:48 [UKR] Sometimes it happens that it's very thankless. [UKR] What specifically? [UKR] What specifically? Working in the state medical sector. [UKR] Because it's difficult, because you could say you live here at work. [UKR] You're on call, like we were on call, the first two years of war three neurosurgeons were on call. [UKR] And most neurosurgeons had 8 to 10, and sometimes 12 shifts. [UKR] That is, every other day you spend the night not at home, but every other day you spend the night at work. [UKR] I even joked, and one night sitting in the operating room, this thought came into my head,

00:09:35 [UKR] that there are people who don't work on weekends. [UKR] For me it was somehow like an epiphany that there are professions where on weekends you don't come to work,

00:09:48 [RUS] but we do.

00:09:50 [UKR] Is that the hardest thing about work or is there something even harder? [UKR] This is the load, you could say, this kind of mechanical load. [UKR] Not sleeping, working, but besides this, medicine is working with people. [UKR] People come in different forms, relatives, different diseases. [UKR] We very often work in neurosurgery with incurable diseases, with some fatal diseases that can lead to death. [UKR] And doctors always have a dose of some cynicism or this kind of cold attitude toward patients.

00:10:36 [UKR] And patients sometimes say about this, that doctors aren't empathetic enough toward the patient.

00:10:45 [RUS] In reality, if we related to each patient [RUS] as if they were your relative, then simply nothing would be left of the doctor after a year. [RUS] Because it's always emotional, and maybe the doctor doesn't show [RUS] that it's hard for them, yes, because of their patient, because of their condition.

00:11:12 [UKR] But still you sometimes wake up at night, some thought about a patient might wake you at night, [UKR] and in the morning when you get up in the morning, you're also thinking about the patient. [UKR] So here it's not like a mechanic came to work, did his job, [UKR] or at a factory a person made some part and went home.

00:11:38 [RUS] Here you carry your work home with you.

00:11:42 [UKR] That is, it doesn't go anywhere from you, even after. [UKR] Where do you find strength, what helps you support yourself [UKR] with such a big emotional and physical burden? [UKR] Well, we simply love our work. [UKR] If we didn't do it, we would have changed it a long time ago, [UKR] because we left, well, we're free to do as we want. [UKR] we want to, so despite the difficulties and maybe some complaints about our work situation, [UKR] we all still love our work. [UKR] Next question. Who is Andriy Hryhorovych Sirko for you? [UKR] Or who is he in general? [UKR] A professor, scientist, neurosurgeon. For me this is a teacher who taught me everything he knows himself and continues to teach.

00:12:43 [UKR] And not only me, but all young specialists, and not only young specialists. [UKR] That is, this is a person on whom we all rely and we watch how he does it, how HE does it. [UKR] And, you could say, not only operations, some administrative decisions [UKR] regarding work with colleagues, regarding attitude toward colleagues, and also in life too. [UKR] Because Andriy Hryhorovych, you could say that it's not only knowing,

00:13:28 [UKR] as they say, being a good person and a good... [UKR] A good person doesn't mean a good professional. [UKR] But here you can say that he's both a good person and a good professional. [UKR] That's what I'll say. [UKR] And how many years ago did you start working with him? [UKR] Seven years ago. [UKR] Well, when I came for residency. [UKR] I was basically only in this department during residency. [UKR] I moved to another one for a year, but I spent all my time here. [UKR] What does it mean for us, if it means anything, when people like Alex and Rocco [UKR] come to you at your hospital, to work with you, help you, [UKR] and even assist you?

00:14:17 [UKR] For me it means that people are interested in us. And why are they interested in us? [UKR] You could say they want to help, because our situation is what it is. [UKR] What does this mean for me? I see that if they come and come multiple times, then they see in us also professionals with whom it's interesting to communicate and interesting to do our neurosurgical work. [UKR] Because, for example, someone might come, take a look, bring some supplies to some hospital, but we've become friends with them.

00:15:12 [UKR] And this is not only professional exchange or professional experience. [UKR] This is also human communication, simply. [UKR] And what I see in this, because we have a sufficient level to interest them, a sufficient level of neurosurgery. [UKR] and neurosurgical care, to interest people from the USA, where the medical system is one of the best. [UKR] So they come and feel at home here. [UKR] Well, maybe not like home, but they see in us kindred professionals.

00:16:02 [UKR] And this is very good and you yourself think that you can show something to people who came from a country with a very developed medical system, and we're not behind in something. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] You've worked with one or the other, what are they like to work with? How is the communication with them in general? [UKR] Very good, very friendly. There's none of this, I'm a professor, I only talk to professors, and you walk around over there. [UKR] No, it's completely imperceptible and, probably, it's that kind of mentality.

00:16:49 [UKR] For us it's normal with Andriy Hryhorovych. [UKR] He also communicates with everyone and he's just as friendly as they are. [UKR] But there are professors you can't even approach. [UKR] But these are people who come and they communicate normally with everyone. [UKR] With the nurse, with the orderly, with the residents, they remember everyone by name and are always ready to maintain dialogue. [UKR] And this is very cool. I wish everyone was like that. [UKR] I'd like to return to the moment when you said you work one and a half positions because there became fewer doctors. [UKR] We noticed that there are many young specialists now in the hospital, and Andriy Hryhorovych told us a bit about this.

00:17:39 [UKR] Tell us, what does this look like from your side, how has this changed over recent years, considering that you're also a very young doctor. [UKR] For me in general, I understand that we all hate this war, but professionally this has been very strong growth for me over these years. [UKR] You could say, as they say, one year for two, but here it was one year for five, probably. [UKR] Because some operations that I watched in residency, how people, my older colleagues do them, [UKR] and I thought, well, I'll do such an operation in about five years.

00:18:24 [UKR] But war comes, and you have to do such an operation in half a year. [UKR] If you thought they'd let you do it, well not only in many years, [UKR] but now such operations are already, you know, routine. [UKR] So this is very, war is this kind of very big boost for doctors, for young doctors, [UKR] it's a boost for their professionalism. [UKR] And why do I work one and a half positions? Because at the beginning of the full-scale war we had 8 doctors in the department, now 4. Some left to work in another clinic, also state, just in another place.

00:19:22 [UKR] Some went abroad, some stopped doing medicine altogether. [UKR] Everyone has their own reasons, but the fact remains that the workload increased twofold. [UKR] Please tell us, what do you usually do during operations? [UKR] We saw two operations in which you participated and did very precise work. [UKR] Is that what you usually do, or were those just such cases, or do you do everything? [UKR] During operations, when I assist, I do assistance. [UKR] That is, I help the doctor who is the operator. [UKR] In those operations Andriy Hryhorovych was the operator, I helped him.

00:20:10 [UKR] While he does the main stage, I can screw in a titanium screw, [UKR] remove that bone if it's shattered, like that serviceman had. [UKR] And it turned out that that patient came to us on an operating Monday, [UKR] and we did this operation on Monday. [UKR] But in general such operations are also done at 3:00, at 2:00 AM. [UKR] There was a time when you do an operation, you start it at 2:00 AM operating on a serviceman, [UKR] and at 2:00 AM you realize that during this night you still need to do,

00:20:58 [UKR] you know, you need to do 2 more operations. [UKR] So, this is also very difficult, that operations are all most often done on servicemen at night. [UKR] Why? Because they can receive a wound during the day, while they transport him to the medical point in Donetsk Oblast, then they transport him, they transport him somewhere in the evening, most often. [UKR] But this can be 24/7, that is, at any time. [UKR] This is regarding servicemen. [UKR] During the day we did an operation to remove a tumor, that is, our department deals with both neurotrauma,

00:21:45 [UKR] that is, wounds and other hematomas and everything else, but we also operate on brain tumors. [UKR] Which tumors, all doctors in our department, they all operate on tumors of various complexities. [UKR] Andriy Hryhorovych operates on the most complex ones, and he is one of the people in Ukraine, who can be counted on the fingers of one hand, [UKR] who operate well on posterior cranial fossa tumors.

00:22:31 [UKR] And we with colleagues operate on all tumors too. [UKR] That is, you can operate on a wounded person all night, [UKR] and then stay on for the morning, if you still have strength,

00:22:47 [RUS] to operate on a tumor.

00:22:50 [UKR] If you're already without strength, then it's better to postpone the operation. [UKR] Because operating on a tumor is very responsible, and we don't take such irresponsible steps [UKR] when you yourself can barely stand on your feet and still go into surgery. [UKR] But it happens, you have to, because there are many patients. [UKR] Has the number of patients increased now? [UKR] War, yes. [UKR] In principle, if we're talking about the beginning of the full-scale war, now there's less. [UKR] Now there are fewer wounded, much fewer, or the war has changed. [UKR] Now it's a drone war. [UKR] But back then at the beginning this was an artillery war, you could say.

00:23:37 [UKR] That is, there were more such wounds. [UKR] Tell us a little bit more about these two operations that happened here. How were they for you? [UKR] As operations? Very often we were at a conference, we gave presentations about wounds that included the paranasal sinuses [UKR] Why does this happen? [UKR] Even if a serviceman is in a helmet, [UKR] he has this unprotected area. [UKR] Often we see that fragments can break through,

00:24:31 [UKR] fly in through the eye, through the sinus area, [UKR] where there's quite thin bone. [UKR] And what we operated on on Monday, this is a serviceman who had a wound [UKR] and shattering of the anterior cranial fossa. [UKR] This is where the brain lies, there's anterior, middle and posterior. [UKR] He had a shattered wall of this fossa, which is the wall of the orbit. [UKR] This is where the eye is located. [UKR] That is, the brain, you could say, was going into the place where the eye should be.

00:25:23 [UKR] And this shouldn't be like that. [UKR] And during this operation we did plastic repair of this anterior cranial fossa, to separate the eye, the orbit and the brain. [UKR] And plus the complexity is always added that such serviceman patients always have large extensive facial wounds, defects. [UKR] And sometimes we perform various plastic repairs, that is, plastic operations, to close all defects, because the brain must be separated from the external environment, because it must be sterile.

00:26:12 [UKR] If something gets in there, this is a very big risk of infection, and infection of the brain, that is, meningoencephalitis, is a critical condition. [UKR] And about the second operation, it was a very complex tumor.

00:26:30 [UKR] A woman who was operated on many years ago, and her tumor grew back. [UKR] It's benign, but even benign tumors over the years can come back. [UKR] And so she had such an operation. We did a complete examination of her, checked all the vessels, [UKR] did angiography, to understand whether such a large vessel is patent or not. [UKR] This simply gives us information, more information, to reduce the risks of the operation itself. [UKR] And Andriy Hryhorovych operated on her, completely removed it, also did plastic repair of the brain lining. [UKR] The woman is feeling well, we were with her yesterday.

00:27:19 [UKR] So yes. [UKR] So yes. [UKR] What does it mean to be Ukrainian? And what does this mean specifically for you? [UKR] What does it mean to be Ukrainian? It means to be a patriot, to love your country. [UKR] However banal that may sound, but there are people who don't love their country for some reason. [UKR] They live here, they receive all the benefits from the state, but they don't love it. [UKR] They can say that the country is bad, it gave me nothing.

00:28:04 [UKR] But for me, if you love your country and yourself, you must do something. [UKR] That is, not the country for you, but you for the country. [UKR] If you do something, then you can consider yourself a patriot and Ukrainian. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] But if you just say all your life that our country is bad, and it gave me nothing, well, such a person will have nothing. [UKR] Because you always have to start with yourself. Well, that's my opinion. [UKR] You could say a lot, that well, maybe some opponent will tell me, no, the country should there give you, give, give, give, because you pay taxes.

00:28:51 [UKR] Well, I'm not used to thinking that way, because you have to, if you want to live how you want to live, you have to work for it. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] And what does it mean specifically for you to live in Ukraine? [UKR] I really value my work not only because I like it, but also because through my work I can bring benefit to people in Ukraine, [UKR] and treat servicemen.

00:29:30 [UKR] This, you could say, [UKR] we have war in our country now. [UKR] You and I, me, my colleagues, we're not at war. [UKR] We know that it exists, [UKR] but this is, you know, moral justification, [UKR] because we're not there where our defenders are, [UKR] that we treat them. [UKR] And it's very pleasant to feel when they recover, the wounded. [UKR] And they thank us for our work, that we're in our place. [UKR] And those actions that we do here, you could say, say about us that we're in our country, we didn't leave anywhere, and we are Ukrainians. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:30:33 [UKR] Got an additional question to ask you about the fact that these last days we've heard some explosions. [UKR] Already this during explosions, which happen quite often in Dnipro, [UKR] Already this during explosions, which happen quite often in Dnipro, [UKR] and sometimes by, I don't know, hundreds of drones fly at Ukraine, [UKR] and today they're just flying, explosion, how is this for you? [UKR] Yes, everyone, I think, well maybe not everyone, but I personally have already adapted.

00:31:00 [UKR] I can't say that I'm very afraid of it, because I was telling you about Pavlohrad and that factory, and there were always explosions there, and when I was sitting in school, explosion, windows shook, the factory is working. [UKR] Well and now, in principle, I don't pay much attention to it, but I try to just live and that's it. [UKR] We all probably have this, that somewhere explosions happened, and you're there with someone close to you in different parts of the city, [UKR] and everyone there, roll call passed, everyone's okay, we work on. [UKR] Same here, yesterday there was quite a loud explosion. I woke up, looked, well not at me, continued sleeping.

00:31:54 [UKR] Last question, what do you hope for in the future? [UKR] What do I hope for? [UKR] Like all Ukrainians, I hope for the end of war and life without war. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] We traveled abroad to a conference, it's a different life when you walk around and think only about your everyday things, [UKR] and don't think that tomorrow something might hit somewhere, or your relative who's in the Armed Forces might get wounded. [UKR] This is very stressful, every person in Ukraine has to endure, that always you, even if there are joyful moments,

00:32:47 [UKR] you can look out the window or at Telegram and see that it's still continuing. [UKR] So I hope that it will end, we'll travel, visit colleagues, see how they work, just live. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:33:09 Everyone.

00:33:13 [UKR] Thank you. [UKR] Thank you. [UKR] It's hot sitting here. [UKR] Yeah, the radiators are really burning at your place.

00:33:22 Should we do something like having tell us what's going on in the OR while it's happening? I think we're good.

00:00:00 [UKR] Speak into the microphone, please.

00:00:00 [UKR] Speak into the microphone, please. [UKR] Please state your name for the record, [UKR] and confirm that you consent to us recording this video interview with you. [UKR] Well, my name is Mikhaylo, I consent to us...

00:00:29 [RUS] Okay, you turn it on. And I'll turn it off.

00:00:34 [UKR] Thank you.

00:00:40 [RUS] Restart.

00:00:42 [UKR] My name is Mikhaylo, I consent to giving this interview. [UKR] Please tell us about your childhood, where you grew up and what it was like? [UKR] I'm originally from Vinnytsia, I was born there, grew up there, graduated from medical school, [UKR] after graduating from medical school, during the residency assignments, I ended up at this hospital. [UKR] What was your childhood like? How did it go, what was Ukraine like back then? [UKR] Do you remember, did something change in 2014 or in 2022? [UKR] In 2014, or even as I remember, it was 2013. Back then nobody understood what was happening.

00:01:35 [UKR] People were in a bit of a panic, many were leaving. We even had a Maidan in Vinnytsia itself. [UKR] and then many people went to the Maidan in Kyiv. [UKR] People were simply fighting, they wanted a better future. [UKR] What about in 2022? Did something change? [UKR] Did you see it? [UKR] In 2022, for example, people living in Dnipro, they felt the war more, [UKR] because there were many strikes here back then, and military actions were taking place here. [UKR] Well, I was living in Vinnytsia, and we had several strikes on various military warehouses.

00:02:26 [UKR] And that's it, in Vinnytsia, well at that time it was calm, it's just that people were uniting, people were going to the military enlistment offices and, accordingly, going to fight, to defend. [UKR] How did you decide to become a doctor? [UKR] Well, here, turns out, it was more my mother's decision. I just agreed with that decision. [UKR] Interesting. Do you regret it? [UKR] Not really. I've already learned this profession more or less. [UKR] I already, well, just like, when you're conducting an interview, you understand what you're doing, [UKR] the same way I'm already in medicine, and to do something else would be kind of unfamiliar, difficult.

00:03:16 [UKR] and in terms of medicine I know what needs to be done in this situation, what needs to be done in another situation. [UKR] Just like on autopilot. [UKR] And why neurosurgery specifically? [UKR] I ended up at this hospital in 2023, I came here for my internship. [UKR] I decided that I wanted to be a surgeon, I was at this hospital, [UKR] we have an on-site and off-site part, meaning the off-site part is here, [UKR] our training location for 9 months, and there's also the on-site part, that's 3 months.

00:04:01 [UKR] And accordingly, when our internship started, we had the on-site part, [UKR] and then, when I came here, I walked around, did shifts in surgery, saw that in neurosurgery there are a lot of operations. [UKR] And accordingly, I figured the more operations I do, the more I'll learn. [UKR] And accordingly, I came to Andriy Hryhorovych, asked if I could join, he said okay, I walked around, observed, I liked it.

00:04:33 [RUS] And I've been here ever since.

00:04:35 [UKR] Did your family suggest you choose the medical profession because you have doctors in the family? [UKR] Not really, well, my grandmother was, well, I mean is, she's a nurse. [UKR] Well, accordingly, somehow my mother decided that I should become a doctor.

00:05:00 [UKR] Tell us a bit about your father. [UKR] Well, when the war started, that was 2022.

00:05:09 [RUS] Many people were going.

00:05:13 [UKR] He had served in the 2000s, mandatory military service. [UKR] He had a rank from that. [UKR] And they just called him, said he needed to come to the military enlistment office. [UKR] And he, without hesitation, came and, accordingly, went to serve. [UKR] And he was there, and in Odesa for a long time, back when they were liberating Snake Island. [UKR] Then on the Zaporizhzhia direction, when they were liberating Kherson. [UKR] And for about a year and a half now he's been on the Pokrovsk direction. [UKR] He doesn't really tell much from there, because they're not allowed to.

00:06:00 [UKR] And he works in communications basically. [UKR] How is it for you and your family that he's in the military now? [UKR] Well, from the beginning it was scary, when we knew that he went to the Pokrovsk direction, [UKR] and when he was in Kherson, it was scary too, but you get used to it. [UKR] We're in contact with him every day, so we're generally assured that for now everything is okay. [UKR] Question from Ted. [UKR] Your colleagues, younger doctors, mentioned to us that in Ukraine it might not be as easy as in other places,

00:06:50 [UKR] to make a name for yourself, to become a well-known professional and be somebody. [UKR] What do you think about that? Is it hard or not?

00:07:00 [UKR] Well, here, for example, from my side I'll be able to say that, [UKR] when I, well, try to go through a certain stage, as they say, [UKR] to become well-known in that sense. [UKR] But for now I'm at the initial stage, so it's hard to say. [UKR] And does it seem like this could be a difficult path or not?

00:07:25 [RUS] I think yes.

00:07:30 [UKR] Please tell us, who is Andriy Hryhorovych? [UKR] And who is he to you specifically? [UKR] Andriy Hryhorovych is directly my teacher. [UKR] After all, when I came here in 2023, he took me in. [UKR] Since then I've been doing shifts in his department, assisting him, he's taught me a lot, shown me a lot, told me a lot. [UKR] Well, accordingly, I'll say, in my eyes he's the best doctor. [UKR] What does it mean to you that doctors like Alex and Rocco come here to work with you and in some cases not just to work, but to assist you?

00:08:18 [UKR] Well, they're not directly assisting me, they're working together with Andriy Hryhorovych. Here it's more like I'm sometimes assisting them at some stage. [UKR] It's cool, they share their experience, they come here, it's support that they're here, they see how it's happening, [UKR] because in the news it can somehow be presented differently, but when a person is here in person, they understand what the situation is, [UKR] and we understand that this is support, and a person dared to do such a thing, because even when I was coming from Vinnytsia for my internship here,

00:09:03 [UKR] many people living in Vinnytsia thought that I was, for example, going practically to the front, [UKR] And these are people who are flying from across the ocean, they have it good there, they have peace there, [UKR] and they're coming very close to the front. [UKR] These are brave people. [UKR] Tell us, what do you usually do during surgery? [UKR] Well, since I've been here for my third year now, [UKR] and accordingly, I know a lot about many things, and people have gotten used to me, [UKR] so in certain operations, where there are some simple cases, [UKR] they let me do some stages myself, but otherwise I mainly assist,

00:09:48 [UKR] doing what the doctor says. [UKR] Like an intermediate stage between the doctor and the nurse. [UKR] We were at one surgery where you were also involved. [UKR] Tell us a bit about that surgery. What was happening? [UKR] Well, there, it turns out, it was already a recurrent meningioma. [UKR] She had been operated on before, well, a meningioma is a benign extra-cerebral tumor. [UKR] She was operated on for the first time at this hospital by different doctors in 2004. [UKR] And during this time it recurred, it grew back, and we removed it. [UKR] Well not we, Andriy Hryhorovych, together with Alex Valadka, I just assisted.

00:10:38 [RUS] Was it difficult for you?

00:10:40 [UKR] Well I just, not for me, for me to assist is not difficult, this is already, if you were to ask Andriy Hryhorovych, [UKR] he thinks through all the stages of the operation, there the difficulty lies in these, namely with tumors in what, [UKR] because we need to remove the tumor as much as possible, [UKR] while preserving the normal anatomy of the human brain. [UKR] And so, because of this it's difficult. [UKR] It's just that for me as an assistant, I, you could say, [UKR] don't experience those emotions that Andriy Hryhorovych experiences.

00:11:25 [UKR] Please tell us, what does being Ukrainian mean to you and what does it mean in general to be a person from Ukraine right now? [UKR] Well, being Ukrainian here is somehow, well, hard to say. We have our own history, at this stage we were attacked, we're simply defending ourselves and, it's difficult to say. [UKR] And for you what does being Ukrainian mean right now? In general, being Ukrainian? [UKR] No, well I'm proud that I'm Ukrainian. [UKR] And being Ukrainian right now means simply to work, to contribute, for example, as me being an intern,

00:12:22 [UKR] to help as much as possible, you know, to save human life. [UKR] Over the last few days you've heard several explosions. What's it like for you in general to live in Dnipro? [UKR] Especially considering you're not from here, what's it like for you when Dnipro is attacked quite often? [UKR] How do you combine this with work? How do you manage everything? [UKR] Well, honestly, I don't hear many of these strikes, because here in the operating room, when all these machines are working, I don't really hear them. [UKR] And even at home, when I'm sleeping, recently at night, this past week, I didn't even hear that strike.

00:13:13 [UKR] Well, I'm extremely calm somehow. [UKR] What's the hardest thing about your work? [UKR] Well in general, when I was going into neurosurgery, I was in other departments, and they told me that [UKR] neurosurgery is very hard to endure in the operating room, because a neurosurgery operation on average takes 2+ hours [UKR] they can even be 3, 4, 5 hours, well the longest I've been in was 7 hours for an operation. [UKR] So the length of operations, is that the hardest? [UKR] Well, and the understanding that this is the brain, that you have no right to make a mistake. [UKR] Where do you find the strength?

00:14:00 [UKR] Rostyslav told us that you work very many hours. [UKR] Where do you find the strength and energy, considering this work is exhausting both physically and emotionally? [UKR] Well, first of all, to work like this, well, I think so. [UKR] Well, you simply have to like it, if you like what you're doing, [UKR] of course, it's not that hard. [UKR] Okay. What do you hope for in the future? [UKR] Well, for peace. [UKR] Well, for example, in my own universe it's to finish my residency in neurosurgery, [UKR] well, to start working as a doctor already, and if on the scale of Ukraine,

00:14:49 [UKR] well, that this war would end justly for us, [UKR] and Ukraine, you know, would start to develop.

00:15:00 [UKR] And justly for us, what does that mean? [UKR] Justly. Well, since, in general, people believe, in the sense that many people there [UKR] talk about the 1991 borders, well, at this stage it's understandable that for us this is very difficult. [UKR] Here there's more of a political stage, politicians deal more with such things.

00:15:38 Any additional questions? No, that's it. I think that maybe the only thing was it would be worth asking him to explain what happened to the OR here. Oh yeah, please, that would be great. The window is blown out next to him. Will you need to stand up in this case? No, no, we can see the OR. We can see behind him.

00:16:02 [UKR] Please look at these windows covered with film, tell us what happened here. [UKR] This was last year, near the hospital, probably in all this time, [UKR] well definitely in all the time since I've been in Dnipro, this was the strike, [UKR] An enemy Russian missile struck, right across the street here. [UKR] And the shockwave blew out these windows. [UKR] Many windows have already been replaced, these are just the last ones that haven't been replaced yet. [UKR] And this is a reminder of that strike.

00:16:47 [UKR] Thank you, we were honored to have your time.

00:16:49 Are you ready to go? Yes. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Let's go eat. Let's grab this stuff.

00:00:00 before you were physically there?

00:00:00 before you were physically there? Is that what the issue is? But how was... - Alex. How was that different from the residents starting...

00:00:19 [RUS] Andriy Sirko, Mechnikov Hospital. [RUS] This is the question.

00:00:25 [UKR] For a whole week we had

00:00:29 [RUS] American neurosurgeons working,

00:00:30 [UKR] along with a group of journalists.

00:00:33 [RUS] And they went to you today [RUS] to get permission [RUS] to film near the morgue [RUS] the morgue, where the refrigerators are. [RUS] They didn't get to you, [RUS] they want to come on Monday. [RUS] What do you say, is it allowed?

00:00:00 The driver asked you what you do. Here it's they brought a body. Our heroes. The driver asked you what you do. Here it's they brought a body. Our heroes. That's why first of all we did not have permission to film. I decided we need to go to the river and then you got the call.

00:00:26 Yes, but only we start, go to the river.

00:00:30 Yeah, you get a call again. Yes, yes, again. And now someone called to say the driver had talked to us or something like that? Is that what you're saying? Now you got another call? No. OK. Because as I was walking away, that driver talked to me and I didn't know what he was saying. Yes. I understand.

00:00:54 Oh, you can see the beautiful view.

00:01:00 And another side of the river, the bench of the river. It's our island, I told you about this. Yes, I remember that last time.

00:01:17 Your island? Yes, in the middle of the Dnepro River. Is that the monastery island? Yeah. That's over there. Didn't know it was that close to where we've been.

00:01:35 Can you call to Anastasia? Uh-huh. Oh, you got it? Go ahead, you can.

00:00:00 I've been uh...

00:00:00 I've been uh... Yeah, I was confused because... Been letting everybody know that. For one week it's seven hours. Yeah, that's the thing that threw me off for the first day. So wait a minute. Yeah, if we would have come a week earlier, these attempted sunset moments would have been easier.

00:00:32 Is that a later plan or a plan for here? Oh, a later plan. Okay. I'm going to try to meet up with a friend in Warsaw. Sweet. Oh, yeah, while I have you guys, so your rooms are all prepaid.

00:00:49 But if you did any kind of room service or stuff in a restaurant, you're going to have to pay again on the way out. They don't keep the card on file. So, I mean, it wasn't much for you to handle it. You guys can just email me the receipts or something or text them to me.

00:01:03 Yeah, we have a... Laura had to pay for our dinner one night because none of my cards were being accepted. I guess the place only took Visa. Because it wasn't even like my cards were declined. It just didn't even beep. So, uh, yeah, that's fine. I was gonna take pictures of all my receipts. Yes, send that stuff to me and then I'll get it all to Terry for her records.

00:01:29 Do you guys, like, are you guys on Zelle or Google Pay or anything like that? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Tad and I are quite familiar with Zelle. Mm-hmm. We're Zelle buddies. We're Zelle mates. And we'll always have Nipro. The trade and ride. - We'll always have a car whatever. - 11. - Rocco tells this funny story that the train he was on has this sleeping apartment and this very nice, very attractive Ukrainian woman comes on and they get to talking and then she starts making the bed. You know, like you guys did, and then she turns to Rocco and says, I sleep with you tonight.

00:02:14 We got to work on that a little bit. - Did you say that the bat? - No, no, no. - It was a Rocco. - I remember the situation usually

00:02:23 in the last day we go to the train station and sit in the train in the room. - Yeah. - And it's our tradition we sit. After that, the people said, "You need to escape." We go outside and wait and the train is start moving. We go outside and see the window. You can see Roko together with a young lady. Speak, speak. We stay and move the hand.

00:03:08 Waving. And Rokko had no reaction to us with Yuri. And he was completely involved in the dialogue with young lady. The young lady was very pretty. Yes Rokko, when I was asleep, he answered me. She even prepare my bed.

00:03:39 It's covered with... Oh, yeah. Of course, Rocco being Rocco, they took pictures and exchanged information. He showed the picture to his daughter. This woman apparently was very pretty, but he said he hasn't shown the picture to his wife.

00:03:58 That's... Good call.

00:04:00 I waited for when the train starts moving, and Alex always stays near the door, and I also start walking alongside. And Alex too. Right, Alex? Yes, yes. and the train is more quickly, fast, fast, the speed is increased, but I also start to walking, increase my speed, yes, but in one moment I understand the train is faster than

00:04:34 I, and this situation I stop and continue to, yeah, it's true, it's a real story.

00:04:41 Yeah, you sent the videos, I have them in my phone somewhere. That's why we have time to speak with Alex inside, but the way I will wait outside when the train is... Yeah?

00:05:00 I think it's a good visual, good visual, yes.

00:05:06 But it's true, it's not for this film, it's always, yeah, Alex?

00:05:11 Yes, yes. Hard traffic or you can say in US is this hard traffic or?

00:00:00 I said Rocco isn't that why you go in February?

00:00:00 I said Rocco isn't that why you go in February? He said no he goes because Andres birthday is February 17th.

00:00:06 Andres always has a big birthday party. That changes everything. That changes everything. You're a Pisces. You're a Pisces. It changes everything. February 19th is my parents anniversary.

00:00:18 Is he a Pisces? Is that a better change or a worse change? Well, I just thought he was an Aquarius. What does a Pisces do? Pisces are more emotional. And Aquariuses are more analytical.

00:00:30 I don't know. What are Libras? I'm not sure. You know I just had my birthday as Yeah I thought your birthday was February 30th. What about What about cancer? Cancers are also emotional and sort of

00:00:51 yeah yeah yeah

00:00:58 yeah with Aquarius's. I'll say that. Well. Oh. Damn. That's all I know. I don't know much. Not compatible with Aquarius's? You just know which signs are compatible. Just like that's all you're talking about. Does that mean like just in romantic relationships or in like any kind of work environment? What's the level of compatibility? I don't know. Just like zero. It's like those signs are especially don't get along. Now, Agitarius are like best friend signs. Now, Agitarius are like best friend signs. Who's Aquarius in the car? Alright. Alright. And I bought Andre. Alright, well. Alright, it's never gonna work out between us. Yeah, it's really, I'm devastated. Oh yeah. Andre first name it.

00:01:54 Okay, this is a Libra. I guess like...

00:02:06 - Yeah. - Yeah. - Translate this. - That's a great statue, I don't know. - Is this one that Rocco runs past?

00:02:16 - He has pictures of a church that, from his...

00:02:21 - How'd you know that? - 'Cause he sent me pictures. - Rocco did? Yeah. - Yeah. - Andres the first cold.

00:02:30 It's name is Church. - Andres the first cold. - Andres the first cold. I say his first name and the first cold.

00:02:39 - So how did you and Rocco touch base again? Did I introduce you guys? - Well, in LA, I got his number. - Oh, that's right. We talked about him there. - I told him that, like, I really enjoyed what he said about, you know, the young love love and the locks on the bench and all that kind of stuff.

00:02:55 Of course, that's right. You better been LA. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah.

00:03:00 Once we had car 11 together, you forgot that there was any history before then. There was no man before me.

00:03:11 There's only one neurosurgeon in my heart. Yeah, that's a good question. Oh, actually, never mind. If you had to get neurosurgery for form, which of the three doctors would you choose? Yeah. Yeah. You had to get neurosurgery for what? I don't know. It was a vague question. If the question was for me, if I had, between the three of you, if I needed neurosurgery,

00:03:35 Like the three of us in this car? Like the three of us in this car? No. I feel like I don't know what to narrow that option. Logan, I want you to be my brain surgeon. While sprinting. Yeah. No, he's not a spritzer. He's a biologist. Okay, actually, this is a better question. Okay, out of Logan, me and Thad, who would you want to perform neurosurgery on you?

00:03:58 If we're like, we're the last people on earth.

00:04:05 Maybe I'd just rather die from my tumor.

00:04:09 I mean, the good brain surgeon knows when not to operate. I'd go with Logan in that choice. I'm sorry Laura. No, I would agree. I would agree with Logan. Yeah. But I think between Rocco, Andre and Alex, because Alex so vociferously says that he would come here to Ukraine for Andre to operate on him if he needed it, I'll defer to Alex's wisdom. There you go.

00:04:48 I mean and I I've seen I've seen Andre work that's the that's exactly it I mean so he did a very difficult tumor today we're literally looking at the brainstem and not the meat of the case you know

00:05:00 when you actually started taking a tumor out you know not counting the opening and closing It was 70 minutes, 70 minutes. Yeah, it's amazing. Can you explain to us again, Alex, why it's so important to move quickly? Well, if something's oozing and you're trying to get it to stop bleeding, get it dried up, you could spend a long time trying to cauterize this and cauterize that and put a little something like Surgicel or gel foam to stop the bleeding.

00:05:30 You could spend forever trying to stop a couple of square millimeters from bleeding. Or you could just realize this is going to be pretty bad. Just plow right in and start moving quickly.

00:05:42 Does that make sense? You don't need to slow down for every little drop of blood. You don't need to slow down for every little drop of blood. At the same time, you don't want to be so reckless that you're losing buckets and buckets of blood.

00:05:52 But you're saying that in the U.S., like the other day, that might have been a 12-hour surgery. Well, depending who does it in the U.S., but that's how some neurosurgeons would do it.

00:06:00 certainly how the residents would do it if you left them alone. It takes a while for someone to realize that when you get a lot of bleeding, you do what's counterintuitive, you actually go faster, and these types of tumors. Right, Andre? Yes, Mr. O. So a great, oh look, oh it's Halloween, that's right.

00:06:25 That's why the Joker's walking around in Ibero.

00:06:32 Ghostface? Ghostface, yeah. The guy from Scream. The guy from Scream. I was gonna ask a non-serious question, but... No, no. Go non-serious. Have you ever seen the movie Saw 3? That is totally not true.

00:06:52 It's that there's a scene in him where they can form brains and three. They could be...

00:00:00 That's kind of that you thought of.

00:00:00 That's kind of that you thought of.

00:00:05 Alex, explain me. I understand you are more fast. So if I heard correctly, I was only half listening.

00:00:14 If there was a patient who you thought was going to not do well, right? It was hopeless, would you still operate? Give them every possible chance? Is that your question, Beth? question is has he had a patient that that that he felt it was too late to operate but but but but it was almost not too late and he still operated by your

00:00:40 house yeah here's the factory that makes the components can you see that okay As far as I understand, you ask me, when patient come to me so late, when his disease in the compensation state, maybe his tumor very big, it is a large giant tumor, yeah?

00:01:10 it's a lot of risk complications due to my surgery what i decide to do in this situation here is it's your question yes but i was asking if it actually if it happened where it was almost too late but but you you still were you still wanted to try um has there been what i'm trying to get at is like like the the decision to not operate or operate has

00:01:45 there been a time where you've operated when it was actually too late does that make sense yeah there are two type of tumor first of all the benign tumor benign benign tumor and malignant tumor benign tumor and malignant tumor benign tumor is grows slowly is for this tumor is prognosis successful favorable for this tumor malignant tumor is growth quickly grows very quickly that's why if i saw patients a patient with a malignant tumor, big malignant tumor spread to the eloquent area and critical vital area in the brain and

00:02:38 the patient in a better neurological condition with gamyplasia, with some speech disorders. I understand. Even I remove this tumor, the patient leaves disability, has more than a severe disability, and in addition, this tumor regrows quickly. in this situation i always have a discussion not only with the patient with their with his

00:03:23 for example his or her relatives i explain them how we can to reach conditions these patients and how long he will live after my surgery i expect expect inspection expectation survival duration six months 10 months or 12 months and i talk about prognosis these patients and they need to make decision all together we will operate or

00:04:10 will allow to him go away okay understand it's every week is there are a lot of this patient with such type of tumor, malignant tumor, giant tumor, and spread growth in the critical area, eloquent area of the brain, and patient has a bad neurological condition, and I understand this patient never will be healthy. We only prolong his life, but it's not always life with high quality of this life.

00:05:06 He may be disability and need to help relatives help. and I ask relatives: are you ready to support this patient for a long time or you don't like support? Maybe it's a lot of troubles for you and it's not the quality of life, it will be poor quality of life. And the patient often answer me: "We need to time in order to discuss with all relatives in this situation and after that we say to you: "We will operate or will not operate?"

00:05:55 Yes? It's one situation. Another situation: benign tumor. Benign tumor is a tumor with good prognosis, like the woman. We operate together with Alex Volatka. On Wednesday. On Wednesday we operate. It's a tumor but this tumor is huge, enormous, like giant tumor. i understand all risk this surgery but in this time i also understand if i totally remove this tumor people will live a long time without radiotherapy without hemotherapy and this

00:06:45 situation i also have a talk discussion with relatives and also i need to or they talk about all possible complications, even death, they ask: "What's the complication rate? In this case, what could happen afterwards?" and i answer according to my experience i tell about these problems and for example in this case yes in my practice i operated for example 300 these patients with the same diagnosis the same

00:07:39 volume of tumor yeah and from from this number one two three patient is died and i tell reason this death in these two cases from example three hundred cases and i said i need to spend more time before surgery with relatives it's will be better if after surgery i will have some types kinds of complications or even death

00:08:28 that's why i always ready to spend more time as much as needed for this patient and i always patients you need to invite in our dialogue your relatives, your child or maybe. Yeah, it's better. That's why make decisions is a difficult process. It's difficult process. Then more operations you perform, it's not too easy to make decisions. Because in my situation, more simply, cases operated my young colleagues.

00:09:20 They leave for me complex cases. Complex cases with expected higher level complications, higher level rate of death. even in European clinics, in US clinics. That's why I most often operate on patients with level 4, 5, complexity level. Complex complexity in these cases. There are some cases, I name it 5+star. Okay, understand? There are some cases, these patients go to another department, neurosurgical department,

00:10:13 and they will be rejected because doctors and neurosurgeon decided it's better reject this patient and send to another clinic, then expect maybe death, complications, and after We have problems, we need to talk a lot with relatives. In Ukraine I'll be more detailed, more emotional, but I think you understand that this is a very difficult process, because I'm not repairing a car. If I don't repair a car, the car doesn't move.

00:11:00 We'll stop. But in another situation I am responsible for the patient's life. That's a different situation. Repairing a car and repairing a body. Not just a body, but maybe, repairing the brain. computer of the body organism, yes? Yes Please sit, sit

00:11:53 And again. One more. This. Oh, okay.

00:12:07 There are light in my house. Because today, switch off and blackout was. I have a short talk with my wife before. and they tell me about this situation. One or two hours without light.

00:12:29 Okay, let's go.

00:00:00 and they all stayed overnight at our place.

00:00:00 and they all stayed overnight at our place. And when Bohdan asked if a boy could stay overnight with us, I would say: you can always, and you should, so the child doesn't wander around the city. We'll take him in, he'll sleep at our place. And so he came, this boy, they arrived at night, and we were with him... Oh, my manicure-pedicure person came to see me, And so, well, Bohdan comes in with this boy, I was seeing Ksenia out, I say: "Ksenia, is that all, I have guests?" And I started making thin pancakes. And this boy says: "Well, I haven't had anything like this, not even hot food to eat." Well, there was milk. And I'm cooking, and he says: "What, you're making pancakes for me?"

00:00:47 I say: "Yes." And he: "What, this is for me?" I say: "Yes." They sat down, we started talking with him. I say: "Well, I say, I dried some borscht there." I say, I wrote there for the best seats: "Yes, I ate your borscht in Mariupol." I cried then, honestly. [VO CANDIDATE] I didn't even have words. He says: "There was no way to cook them. We ate them dry." Because we were sitting in basements, he says: "We couldn't stick our noses out." And we had, he says, these borschts, and we just ate them dry. And washed them down with water. This was a pleasant moment for me. [VO CANDIDATE] Somehow I helped someone.

00:01:30 I can't hold a weapon, I can't fight. [VO CANDIDATE] I can at least do something that I'm capable of. And when was this, what year? Andrei, that article is there, in '16, '17. Bring the article, Andrei. You're not decorating, right? Yes, yes. So that's what she thinks. So that's how it is. Living, yes. I think these are children who grew up with my son, they are fighting now, and many of them are no longer alive. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:02:26 And for me, these children, they are my children. Tell us a bit, while Teddy is still finishing his questions. Was the article lying with my photo? It was lying under the TV, maybe we gave it to this... Look there in the drawers. Under the TV? Yes, under the TV. Tell us a bit about where you grew up, what your childhood was like. I was mostly raised by my grandmother and grandfather, because my parents worked. I was there being raised from a very young age.

00:03:13 It was a village, but my grandparents were rural intellectuals, they were teachers. And my grandmother always found time, living in the village, to talk with me every day.

00:03:30 She would tell me about how they lived before, about the situations that happened before. I am very grateful to her. Now I remember practically every word she said. And relationships between people, situations that happened with real people. Not what they film in movies, but what actually happened. About the Great Patriotic War, about the Holodomors, about all the situations. She probably felt, she had five grandchildren, but for some reason she only told me stories. I don't know, I was little, and she would sit me down, and I would listen.

00:04:16 Maybe the others didn't want to listen, but I listened. And now, when I remember her words, she always said that you must love each other, you must help each other, you must love your land. [VO CANDIDATE] Those were the kinds of stories. Well, and then I studied, lived with my parents, studied in middle school. I am very grateful to my teachers, my Ukrainian language teacher, who invested in us, read us books that were not in the Ukrainian school curriculum.

00:05:04 The history teacher - an incredible person, although it was a district center, a district center school, but they invested so much knowledge in us, that when I entered the medical academy, and the teacher asked me about history, when I answered him, which school I had studied in. Because our history teacher gave us a foundation, a base of historical knowledge according to the laws of history. I came from another region, from Kirovohrad region. I came after finishing high school, with a high school medal. He says: "In our city they don't know what you know outside the city."

00:05:51 I was very proud that I studied in the Ukrainian group at the medical academy. And in general, medicine, it's probably as long as I can remember, I played doctor with dolls. Doctor or teacher. Well, teacher as teacher, but doctor - yes. And after eighth or ninth grade I worked as an orderly, as a junior nurse in the children's ward kitchen. I wanted to do something at least. Then after school I went to apply to the medical academy in Western Ukraine, but I didn't get in. And my father insisted, I said, I'll prepare for next year.

00:06:37 He says, while you're preparing, you'll still go study to be a nurse. I entered without exams into the medical college in present-day Kropyvnytskyi, then Kirovohrad. I graduated. And while studying there, I worked as an orderly in the neurosurgery department, so you understand. I saw these patients, severe neurosurgical patients after operations. I saw those who fell from heights, broke their spines, young handsome guys who lay there and would never get up again. [VO CANDIDATE] It's like... Back then for me neurosurgery was somehow an incredible profession.

00:07:31 Well, when Andrii and I met and studied at the medical academy together, and we met there, he wanted to be a neurologist himself. And then, when we met my parents, and my father says, Andryusha, you're such a strong man, what neurologist, you need to be a surgeon.

00:08:00 He's a leader, well then be a neurosurgeon, if not a neurologist, then it will be like that. And so my life intertwined with being an orderly with neurosurgery, then I also entered the medical academy, and married Andrii, and he became a neurosurgeon, and that's how everything came together. But medicine was always alongside. I can't imagine, although at this moment I don't officially work as a doctor, but I continue to heal in my own way, to help in my own way, to save in my own way. I continue all of this, I've changed my profile a bit, to something deeper, broader. And my colleagues, whom I meet now, they say, you've already outgrown the capabilities of a doctor,

00:08:48 The one you were, you won't go back to, because you won't become the one you were, you're already different. And so, and the events that have unfolded now, they pushed me towards development. No matter how difficult the events were. Yes, go ahead and ask. We should probably have closed the window. Don't stress about asking all those questions. Yeah. Well, I asked a few already. Well, I asked a few already. Well, I asked a few already. I figured, yeah, I could tell. I could tell. I could tell. I may not be able to speak Ukrainian, but I can pick up a few words.

00:09:41 Let's return to medicine, specifically the education. Tell us how you decided this would be your profession, when you decided to go study medicine, what motivated you to do this? I don't see another life other than helping others overcome crisis. [VO CANDIDATE] I don't see myself somehow in anything else. I don't see myself separating myself from others. I don't see myself any other way, honestly. This was probably from the beginning of my life. There simply could not have been anything else and never would be.

00:10:32 Tell me please, a question that Tat asks everyone, what was it like growing up in the Soviet Union, how did people think then, did you ever think that Ukraine could be an independent country, and if you remember, what were your thoughts when it happened? You know, I sometimes think about this question, that our generation, it experienced. The Brezhnev times, when people lived and didn't think in the Soviet Union, they knew that when they go to work, they receive a specific amount of money,

00:11:19 a small sum there, which wasn't enough for much, but everyone somehow, everything was somehow, well, no one could step outside the boundaries. There were limits that constrained children, people, and these limits were like, they were even glorified and celebrated, that we are pioneers, we are Komsomol members, we are something else. That is, only such a future and only this way could one live in the Soviet Union. And when in '91, how did it all happen? I had just finished 10th grade.

00:12:07 And there were leaflets, which were, well, we had leaflets appear, that Ukraine is self-sufficient, it can be on its own, it can live on its own, it can feed itself. And we are self-sufficient people, we can not depend on anyone. When I read that, I thought to myself, really, why do we depend on anyone? And when they asked me: "Are you for the Soviet Union, for its continuation, or for a free Ukraine?" I say: "For a free Ukraine. Why should I be for the Soviet Union then?" [VO CANDIDATE] And when those hard 90s years came, when there was no food, in Ukraine only those people survived,

00:12:56 more or less, who had a garden, had a household. It was hard for Ukrainians. But we persevered and now, when... Ukraine is now in a very difficult state. But if you compare communist Ukraine and present-day Ukraine before the war, these are two big differences. Ukraine - a country of opportunities, I would say, it became. If you want to achieve something, you will achieve it. We have, you know, the system, this nomenclature, it still exists in Ukraine, it remains, it hasn't fully died out yet.

00:13:46 and people who achieved something in the Soviet Union, they don't want to give all of this up. They hold onto it like a louse to a fur coat. But the time will come when they will step aside.

00:14:00 And free people, free children will come. [VO CANDIDATE] Our children are valued all over the world because they want to learn, they want to develop, they want to achieve something. Why? Because our children are like that. And in other countries they went, for example, our migrants to Germany, and these people, children they say, they don't want to let go, because on them this drive, this movement is held, you understand? That's why I think everything will be fine in Ukraine when it overcomes this trouble. And the Soviet Union - it's not the structure and not the country that leads to development. It's a country that was already fading when I was in school.

00:14:55 It's a country that was already fading, because such thinking prevailed.

00:15:00 Everything around is collective farm, but everything around is mine. But no one wanted to be responsible for this, because it's state property. And now people think, this is mine, this is my land, this is not state land. This mythical state, created by someone. And now for some people, it's all the state. But the state is us. We clean up around our home, we are the state. [VO CANDIDATE] Well, yes. Why do you think Ukraine is such that Russia wants to take it so much? Why is Russia so interested in Ukraine? It's not that they want to take it, they want to destroy it. [VO CANDIDATE] This is our spirit of freedom, that wants to break free from the imperial yoke.

00:15:47 They want to simply crush us, they want to destroy us. They want us not to exist, so no one ever hears about us. Because when they hear about us, they have nothing to say. For me, for example, I develop, I learn. I rejoice for people who are learning. Honestly. But they can't allow themselves joy if someone is progressing. They necessarily, I never thought people were fixated on hatred. And before I didn't watch these Russian posts, people who are fixated on destroying other people.

00:16:34 It didn't fit in my head, how can you treat some nation or some country with contempt just because, because you don't like that country. I understand that I can relate to some particular country with a certain attitude, but to destroy them, I don't have that at all. But with these people it's different. There is such a thing, when slaves in the world will not support the free one, because they are envious that you are free. [VO CANDIDATE] They will try to destroy you, because you are different from them. This is what they cannot swallow, what they cannot allow themselves,

00:17:21 because they were not raised that way. It's not their essence. They are different.

00:17:30 They cannot understand us. We couldn't imagine they were like that, but they were always like that. Such are our neighbors. [VO CANDIDATE] And you know what I'll tell you? until we become strong, until we stand on our feet, they will treat us this way. This was an analogy. I look at relationships between people and at the situations in this war. We had such a situation in life, that we bought an unfinished suburban house, And the neighbor didn't have a fence, there wasn't, although we had a clearly marked plot, there was no fence. And every time we come to the dacha, and the neighbors push things, slide them onto our territory.

00:18:25 We come, they've pushed things over. If we didn't react, those things stayed. Next time we come, they pushed again their things into our yard. And my husband couldn't take it, Andrii went and put their things back in place. These people, they said such a thing. We want it to be as we want. And I say, but we have documents. I sent an analogy with Ukraine and Russia.

00:19:00 We have documents that show, we called the service, the land surveyor who measures all this. But we lived all this time, and we want to even out this plot, because we want to make our plot bigger, like wait a minute. Well, in our documents, we're not going to redo the documents. That is, people grew up in the Soviet Union, and they think that if you're stronger, if you've lived here longer, if you're older, you have the right to humiliate and take from another. I think, well, how this Soviet mentality has eaten into people, they don't want to accept.

00:19:47 Well, nothing, we put up a fence according to our marked dimensions. And I understood, until you become strong, until you stand for what you have by right, you will not be respected. If you are strong, you will be respected. If you are weak, no one will respect you. [VO CANDIDATE] Even having history, having everything, you need to become strong. This is the most important thing for us now. But it's very hard. I talk a lot. Let's return to the moment when you met your husband. Tell us a bit about this, what you thought of him when you first met.

00:20:35 I argued with him the whole first year. He was so disciplined, and this is studenthood after all. Well, let's go here, let's go there, and I'm going to take a seminar. I say, you, I say, how difficult you are, how hard it is with you. I argued with him the whole first year. And then my life circumstances changed so that I wanted to change my surroundings. I realized that I came here to study, I'm studying at a medical university. I took my things from that group where I was, left, sat at the front desk.

00:21:20 Andrii was sitting at the front desk. And we got to know, well like, we knew each other, well, he says, can I come to you tonight?

00:21:30 Says, sure come. And he came and asked me out on a date. We went on our first date. He says, what are your plans for the future? I say, what plans? Finish medical school, go to work, get married, have children, work. He says, so your plans match mine. Let's get married. On the first date. I say, let's, let's date first. He tells me: "I've already decided, I will marry you." From the first date we dated for another half year, then got married. And after third year we got married, and in sixth year Bohdanchyk was born.

00:22:20 That's how we lived. Tell us how the dynamics of your husband's work changed over these years? My husband, this year we've been living together for 30 years. In all these 30 years I haven't seen him rest. Only on vacation, if we carved out 10 days somewhere, somewhere we managed, or maybe somewhere on trips, going to congresses, and there one or two days. That's all, all his rest. And all the rest of the time he studied, he first wrote his candidate dissertation, then doctoral dissertation, then books, then articles. And now he continues at the same pace.

00:23:20 And I understood that at first I couldn't accept this, for me this was incomprehensible, and life passes, youth passes, and I somehow at first didn't really, all this didn't really work for me. And then at one moment I understood one simple thing, that other men, they cannot do what my husband does. [VO CANDIDATE] I will try with all my strength to help him achieve what he wants. Because not everyone is like him, there is no one like him. And that's it. After this I was released, I accepted my life as what it should be.

00:24:05 That's how it is. And all weekends, all holidays. Even relatives sometimes tell us, not everyone lives like you. And I say, well not everyone works like we do. And when we go to the dacha, I work around the house. There's the garden, the vegetable garden Andrii takes care of.

00:24:30 Sometimes he comes out to help me for a certain time. But generally he's always busy with some projects, some articles, some books, some interviews. And all this moves their work. He traveled, studied in Helsinki, and many places to raise his level. Because he felt he was lacking. And he moved not only himself, but also those people who were nearby. And these people grew together with him, and Andrii grew. Now these people went to work at another hospital,

00:25:15 because they already feel strength in themselves. And I tell Andrii, I say, young people will come to you. And they will be even more progressive. Because people finish their professional growth, people start professionally dying. When a person constantly develops, they live. [VO CANDIDATE] As soon as a person stops developing, they start slowly slowly declining. I felt this 100% in this period. That's how it is. Question, tell us, what for you, and for your family, and for your husband, what

00:26:00 is the meaning, the surname Sirko. Oh, you know, in Ukrainian literature there is such a play, called "Chasing Two Hares." Mykhailo Starytsky, the author. It's a Ukrainian work, and there, you see, there's a main character. I wasn't yet acquainted with Andrii, and one evening this film was on. I was watching this film and laughing at the main character, who had this surname. And I tell mom, mom, can you imagine, her surname is Sirko. And I'm laughing, sitting on the couch and laughing.

00:26:45 Time passed, I'm getting married that same day. My mom tells me, do you remember how you laughed there on the couch at the surname Sirko? And now what's your surname? Sirko. Well, I treat it with great respect. I just found the heroine comical. But in general, it's, I would say, a sacred surname. It's a very serious, such responsibility to bear such a surname. And at all lectures, where we were at the medical academy, when there was roll call, and Sirko, ataman, all the teachers would immediately say, 299 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:41,080 And, you know, we have no other path but some development, some, I don't know, progress. There's no other way.

00:27:26 [UKR-NEEDS] Тому що, мабуть, от таке, знаєте, може цей прізвище дає таку енергетику, можливо, відповідальність підсвідома, яка змушує нас рухатися далі і, як отокажуть, не

00:27:41 Because, perhaps, you know, maybe this surname gives such energy, perhaps a subconscious responsibility that makes us move forward and, as they say, not let our ancestors feel that they lived in vain, honestly. Tell us a little about your sons. I love my children very much, probably more than anything in the world. These are my children and everything they touch, everyone they communicate with. Those boys that Bohdan communicated with, I automatically loved them all. Everything he loved, I automatically loved too.

00:28:28 And Bohdan and Sviatoslav, they are such different children. Now I understand, when I study spiritual knowledge, when I practice, I understand that children come into a family both to resolve some of their karmic problems, and to help the family, to help themselves and to help the family. Little Bohdanchyk, when he was small, until about 14, he was such a child who sensed the subtleties of adult matters, you didn't need to tell him anything, you didn't need to explain anything to him. He immediately understood everything, the essence of the problem. He tried to help everyone around him. He participated in youth movements. He's patriotic and so deep.

00:29:34 And then adolescence began, this transitional age, and he's now forming into an adult man, already formed. The period of becoming, it's never easy for anyone, but I think that he was good as a child, and as an adult he'll be even better. And Sviatoslav, he's completely different. When Sviatoslav came into our family, some kind of internal movement began in us. He makes Andriy and me move more actively, learn, develop somehow more.

00:30:28 Sviatoslav, he started some kind of process of internal movement in the family. It's palpable. We have trips, we have events. With Sviatoslav it's somehow... If with Bohdan it was somehow spiritual and deep, then with Sviatoslav it's somehow more dynamic. Although Bohdan is very dynamic, very. For the family, those were the feelings. Your son and your husband work together, and they're both neurosurgeons. How is that for you? I'm proud of them both, honestly. I'm very, very proud of them both.

00:31:14 [VO CANDIDATE] I know that they will do for a patient as for a family member. They will do the operation as best as possible. They will care about the very basic life needs of a person. They will care about this, and I will never be ashamed of them. Absolutely. The community of neurosurgeons, it's diverse, but these are people who are mostly, highly intelligent and very deep. Because they're probably concentrated on such serious matters.

00:32:02 Well, all doctors are special in their own way, I'm more than sure, that each specialty has some kind of depth to it. But neurosurgeons are absolutely incredible. When you hear Mechnikov Hospital, what comes to mind? It's the only place I've ever worked. These are the walls that raised me, as a doctor, as a person, as a specialist. I worked my way up to the highest qualification category of doctor, as a surgeon, as an OB-GYN surgeon. This means a lot. Night shifts, operations, orientations, all of it. And now, you know, Mechnikov Hospital gives people the opportunity to receive hope that they will be saved.

00:33:00 It's more than 100%. Especially what's connected with my husband. I once saw an interview with a soldier, very strong, very brave, who was wounded. And my husband comes to him on rounds, and he smiles, Andriy asks him, how are you doing? [VO CANDIDATE] He says, everything's fine, I heard I was at Mechnikov, I understood I would survive. You understand, when people say this, nothing else is needed. It means we didn't study in vain, not in vain, my husband studied for 30 years, not in vain. I carried all the burdens that we had together, and it wasn't all for nothing.

00:33:50 Why is it important for you and your husband to stay in Dnipro now, for him to continue his work at the hospital,

00:34:00 when so many neurosurgeons have transferred somewhere or left the country entirely? We can do for our country what we are able to do. [VO CANDIDATE] Those who know how to hold a weapon hold a weapon, and those who don't know how to hold a weapon, must help those who do. There's no other way, because otherwise we won't make it, we won't remain, we won't endure. We made this decision, my husband insisted that I leave, I say, without me you won't be able to work. And if you can't work, then there's no point, no purpose. [VO CANDIDATE] We're staying here because this is our land, where should we go. We will stand on our land, we will defend it.

00:34:48 When you found out that your husband would receive the "Legend of Ukraine" award from the president, What did you feel, what did you think when you found out and when the award was given? You know, it was very pleasant. I was very happy for my husband. Incredibly happy. And I know that this award, it's truly deserved. How much my husband has invested in his work, something not everyone can afford to do. Tell us a little about your life in Dnipro, all this time you've been living here, and especially what life was like before 2014 and before 2022, and how it has changed, especially in these last years?

00:35:49 Before 2014 I didn't understand the value of what we had at all. We had peace, we had confidence in tomorrow, we had some plans. After 2014, every day, when Maidan was happening, every day we were very worried about Ukraine. Very worried. When there were dispersals on Maidan, we worried about those children, worried about the people. We tried to help however we could, because we understood that people came out to fight for their rights, to fight for humanity, for humaneness. And when there was the dispersal, it was actually Andriy's birthday,

00:36:39 when there were shootings on Maidan. And Andriy wore a black vyshyvanka that day and says: "This is probably, this is probably, the hardest, the hardest birthday of mine." But when Maidan stood firm, and it was a great celebration that Ukraine endured, that higher powers are still for us, and we will be, and everything will be fine with us. When the war in Donbas started, when there was Ilovaisk, and they were evacuating people, bringing them to us, barely alive, and we saved them as we could, these people became our friends after Ilovaisk.

00:37:28 In 2014 we already understood that we were living in war. We live, people maybe in Dnipro and Ukraine didn't feel it, but we already knew that we were living in war. [VO CANDIDATE] And when 2022 came, I cried, probably, for a year and a half every day. I suffered greatly, it was very painful for me what was happening, for these killings, for all of this. And then I understood that I was falling into depression. And I understood that in depression I'm not needed by my husband, not by my family. I pulled myself together, I took up in-depth study of global questions, myself, the universe, spiritual knowledge.

00:38:23 And I started understanding some questions that generally arise in people, in society and so on.

00:38:30 And this gave me the opportunity to distract myself from all of this. And now I spend practically all my time studying Vedic knowledge, studying spiritual knowledge. I practice Vedic astrology, various practices, and I try to help people recover. I feel this as a continuation of myself as a doctor.

00:39:00 In your opinion, what should the world know about Ukraine now? People who are far away, maybe don't understand the context of Ukraine and the war at all, what could you tell them? I must tell people who, perhaps, don't know, perhaps, haven't heard, that I could never have thought, [VO CANDIDATE] I could never, even in a nightmare, imagine that in 2022 it's possible to just come to the territory of another country. I understood that all these United Nations organizations,

00:39:45 the Red Cross, that this whole commonwealth, all these agreements, they're worth nothing. I understood that in today's world there's the possibility of terrorism, that can simply come to your home, kill you, maim you. And they will face no consequences. And we're forced to fight, we're forced to stand, we're forced to go and hold the defense, [VO CANDIDATE] because if we don't do this, they will simply destroy us all.

00:40:30 And that's it. And in the four years that the war has been going on, I haven't seen any significant actions against the terrorist country. And no one especially, no one has made their life worse with anything or somehow restrained them like rabid dogs. No, this doesn't happen. They're received all over the world, they're listened to, they're invited. You understand, people who kill other people in our 2025 can calmly live and declare some rights of theirs.

00:41:21 And the world listens to them. [VO CANDIDATE] I want to say that if today it's Ukraine, tomorrow it will be any country. If today people who have reason, have at least some human qualities, if today we don't hear each other and don't unite with each other, then tomorrow we simply won't exist, because whoever is stronger is right, whoever has some claims, some constant ones.

00:42:00 I don't understand at all, people, the whole problem is that they're on our land, leave our land and the war will end. It's not even discussed that they will leave, you understand? They consider it theirs, the population of that country, they think they're doing this correctly, because they're destroying us as terrorists. We have never attacked anyone. We're a country that deals with its own affairs, its own development, its own children in the end. They don't have this, they have a desire to destroy others, and that's their life's mission.

00:42:48 It's simply, as they say, I have no words. How can there be a delegation from Russia at the UN and still say something there, after they kill children and abuse our women, men, kill, torture, burn homes and after that they're listened to. I don't understand this.

00:43:40 You understand, I will always fulfill my professional duties. I won't... In my life there have been many cases when people who did me great harm, the interesting thing is that life brings them to me asking for help, and I help them. I don't sympathize with them, I don't support them. But on a physical level, if I'm a doctor, I will help. I can't do otherwise. Otherwise, he'll haunt my dreams if I don't help him. But it's so painful inside, very painful.

00:44:33 [VO CANDIDATE] When Russian doctors carved "Russia" on our soldier's body with a scalpel, when I saw it, I had simply tears, rolling from my eyes, like what kind of doctor do you have to be to carve on a body? That's a sadist, not a doctor. Answer please a few questions to finish. Briefly. What does it mean personally for you and for your husband that doctors like Rocco and Alex come here?

00:45:22 I asked Rocco a question when he came for the first time. Rocco, what made you come from across the ocean to some Ukraine, which has nothing to do with you at all? [VO CANDIDATE] He told me then, you understand, when I studied at West Point, they taught us to help democracy. I see that you want to be democratic, you want to be free. And from across the ocean I can't help but come and help you. Then I told them that I thank you on behalf of all the Ukrainian people. They can't all thank you, but I'm telling you thank you. And I understand that these are people with incredible hearts, both Alex and Rocco. These are people with incredibly big hearts. Decent people, deep people, humane people. How valuable this is in today's world, how wonderful.

00:46:27 [VO CANDIDATE] I'm very grateful to such people who, not having any problems like ours, they care about this, it hurts them. And believe me, our people are indebted to such people. We're very grateful that they don't abandon us at such a difficult moment. This week, while Alex is here now, there were several attacks, and we all heard explosions, and you were very worried about Alex. Why? Because I worry about everyone, and this person, well, he's not obligated to be here. I have responsibility before his family. As a representative of Ukraine, I can't allow myself for a person to be harmed here.

00:47:21 And I know that I worry about my children, about my family, about everyone, about us, but people who could be harmed.

00:47:30 I'll have to answer for this to their family later. This is very hard for me. I want us to return to what Bohdan told us when we spoke with him. We've already talked a little about him, but Bohdan told us that he doesn't feel, can't call himself, you know, the good son of mom's friend, whom everyone always sets as an example, as ideal, that he doesn't feel that way, but this gives him the opportunity to live his life, to do as he sees fit. And he said that Sviatoslav maybe feels more of this need to be this good son.

00:48:16 What could you say about this? And you already said that you're not proud. Tell us a little more about this. I love my children very much. I know that they're different. I know that each of them has their own path. And the special, as they say, personal feelings of Bohdan. He needs them for his growth. But actually I've always been proud of him. He was born, and from the moment he was born, I started being proud of him. I'm proud to this day. And how he feels now, I accept this as a mother, I understand that he needs this,

00:49:01 in order to become better. That's how it is. I'm now engaged in something deeper than the medicine I was in. And looking at how I'm studying myself now, my time with official medicine has passed.

00:49:52 The time has come for me to develop in a different direction. Because I've already exhausted myself in that moment. I need to move forward, so that I live and grow. I need to move forward. And I don't regret that circumstances turned out this way for me. I didn't do anything myself, circumstances just turned out this way. Circumstances work out, I trust higher powers and know that they know better. That they know more, I trust them more. Tell us please, what does it mean to be a Ukrainian woman or a Ukrainian in general, and what does it mean for you to be a Ukrainian woman, especially now?

00:50:46 [VO CANDIDATE] A Ukrainian woman is one who feels the pain of others. One who can smile through tears. A Ukrainian woman is one who will find the strength within herself to help not only herself, but also those around her. A Ukrainian woman is one who constantly looks for things in order to develop herself and in order to grow. A Ukrainian woman is one who loves her family very much, her children, knows how to cook well.

00:51:30 And what does it mean to be a person from Ukraine? [VO CANDIDATE] When I fly back from abroad, I cry. I cry because I'm so happy to see my land. When the plane lands, tears pour from my eyes. I'm home. I breathe easier, I live easier. I can do anything, move mountains. I'm home. What do you hope for in the future for yourself, for your family, for your children, for your people?

00:00:00 No, there wasn't, no, fine.

00:00:00 No, there wasn't, no, fine. Let's continue. Repeat literally the last sentence. When we were abroad and the plane lands on Ukrainian soil, before it was possible, I had streams of tears from my eyes, because I'm home, I can allow myself anything I want. I had strength, I had desire. I'm home, everything is fine with me. I love my land, I love my people, I love my home, my city. [VO CANDIDATE] I love the people I communicate with, those I don't communicate with, those who live next to me.

00:00:48 Everything will be fine with me, and everything will be fine with us. The main thing is that they don't kill us. [VO CANDIDATE] And what else do you hope for your family, for your children, future grandchildren? I already feel my grandchild. This will be the dearest soul to me, honestly. My children, I adore them, but I will love my grandchild. It will be simply an incredible thing. And I hope that my children will live in a free country, in a non-war country, in a free country. [VO CANDIDATE] And everything will be fine. For my husband, for me, and for my children. I only hope for this.

00:01:33 Thank you. Thank you, Vanilka. Thank you. I could feel this. - B... And then the correspondent asked me: "Is anyone serving there?"

00:02:19 I say: "No, I say, I don't have anyone serving there, but I say: our people are serving there." We're going to have them greet each other, right, and them and exchange gifts so, you know, that's the goodbye kind of thing. And this is from the New York Times article.

00:00:00 oh you guys got something to say no no i was gonna say or should we just do this here okay

00:00:00 oh you guys got something to say no no i was gonna say or should we just do this here okay

00:00:06 this is good or do you want to move all right this is fine here i might go on the other side that would make it different i'm just gonna turn off this kitchen line this one yeah this one and then this one too yeah there we go all right okay

00:00:27 In Ukraine, it's important that there are roots,

00:00:57 Which gives growth to your whole family? Roots. First of all, in Ukraine they are very important. We have roots. And these roots are very important, and if roots are very important, then branches will also be big. And this is Ukrainian amber. This is very... This is only Ukraine. Now we need to translate. Ukrainian land? Amber from Polissia.

00:01:42 Amber. Oh, yes, for the Baltic growth? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. See how Ukraine combined in itself Baltic roots. That's impressive. Alex Aladkov, this is a Lithuanian pen. This is a Lithuanian pen. This is a Lithuanian pen. This is from amber. This is beautiful. Tanya prepared gifts for your wife. Tanya prepared gifts for your wife. What is this? Paddy. Paddy. Tanya needs to keep gifts for your life, because this is very fragile, it can be stored, but Tanya knows if this...

00:02:40 Oh, healer, this is... Wow!

00:02:45 Amazing! Yes, yes, I'll pack everything, well, I'll do it,

00:02:51 and this will be for her birthday. Tanya, I remember, Tanya, I remember, not for today, but for her birthday. If it will be for her birthday. Yes. As we remember, it will be... About one month. 12-2. [INAUDIBLE]

00:03:17 Hide, how's it going? Pike, bro? No, no, no, how's it going, Ginger. Hide, I'm not going. Hide, I'm not going. Paddy, but on this day, you joined,

00:03:30 and said that this is from the family, especially from Tatiana. I have rooms, and I have very long to pack everything, like everything. Yes, Paddy, in order to save integrity, save complexity.

00:03:49 - Yes, excellent. - We need to open one photo. One photo, we ask best producer, best regisseur. - Oh yeah, yes, yes. Here we go.

00:04:00 - Oh, this one. - All right, let me get this. - This one. - I need to, all right, I'm gonna get it like this. Go in and get a closer one. Alright, and last one. No, no, that's good. There we go.

00:04:22 Alright, thank you. So, Tanya will package. We'll package. Oh, thank you. One more. Actually, come back.

00:04:30 Come back. I have some new stuff. You can package. We'll do this here. Yeah. I'll start a problem. Come back. One more. Let me do this. - Right in here. This is better. Oh, you're over here. - Get in there. - Angle this way. - Angle. Thank you. Thank you. - Smile. - Yeah, you're good. And last one. All right, got it.

00:05:00 - Thank you.

00:05:00 - Thank you. - So wait. - No worries.

00:00:00 Okay, you all set a little bit? Okay, you all set a little bit? Yep. So I have some gifts for you two also. So I know that Svatislav very much enjoyed being in Los Angeles at the Congress of Neurological Surgeons meeting two weeks ago. It was your first trip out of the country. First trip to the United States. Also our first trip also. So you could open that and then I will explain what it is. This is for Svatoslav. See what it says. You showed a picture of him at the Santa Monica beach with a pier and a backer.

00:00:41 He looks so happy playing in the water. Just Svatoslav, come back, come, give this gift, and perform photo and send you. Yes, please do. Just in time for winter, he has a California picture.

00:00:59 He swam in the ocean, but didn't understand that a shark also swam together with him.

00:01:12 Yes, Piotr Abadine plavav, and he knew that there were a kules. Then the next day I told him about this event, and they...

00:01:23 Thank you Alex. - Patty very much enjoyed meeting you in California.

00:01:30 So she has a few gifts for you. So open that and I will explain. - Thank you.

00:01:38 - It's like secret. - Bubble rack. - You also can use this packing to pack your gift

00:01:50 To prepare. Yeah, it comes right on. So you can smell it? Smell it.

00:02:00 I can smell from here. There's a pine candle. And I had it in my suitcase. It smells so much, I wrapped it up so all my clothes would not smell like pine. It's very kind. Yeah. It smells very good.

00:02:23 I will also be inhaling. Smell it. Smell it.

00:02:30 Yes. Thank you. And also, here's more gifts for you from here. Open it first.

00:03:24 Thank you. Thank you. I really enjoy it. I know Tatiana, your preference.

00:03:35 You're getting all choked up over the gifts. Yes, this one. Thank you. Thank you so much. And, Andre, this is a gift from Susan Rowell. So she is a general surgeon, chest abdomen surgeon, who does trauma. So she is a general surgeon, chest abdomen surgeon, who does trauma. not a neurosurgeon, but this very good traumatic brain injury research. We're working on at least one project. Bridge. Bridge. And you met her in Warsaw for the first time last month. Yeah, so here, she wanted me to give this to you. Yeah, so here, she wanted me to give this to you. He promised me this gift, but forgot him at home when he came to L.A. So she, you'll never guess what university she is at.

00:04:22 University of Chicago, which is also where I went to medical school. And Andrey spoke at their virtual presentation at their TBS. Last year, last year. And Alex were at Chicago University in person, but I have presentation online.

00:04:46 - Yeah, yeah, sure. And I have one more idea for Andre. You've had a very, very busy week. I appreciate you showing me around. You need something to relax. - Something to relax? Here you go.

00:05:00 But I, to be honest, Alex, last year I, like, drink only tea or coffee, but I have... - But you can make an exception. great collection great collection I think we will drink this limited edition

00:05:30 straight bourbon whiskey whiskey yeah from Texas we will drink this whiskey for our victory after victory

00:05:38 Yes, yes, you promise me a bit Maybe I will smell it Maybe one milliliter Yes, yeah, that would be wonderful. Oh, you know Austin. Yeah, I was in Texas. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you all

00:06:08 in order to drink this alcohol, but I promise after the victory, in order to drink this alcohol, but I promise after the victory,

00:06:14 - Well, if you drink it early, we can always get you more. - Thank you. - All right, great. - Thank you. - Thank you.

00:06:26 - All right. - Thank you, thank you. - I have friends who work, it's still Austin.

00:06:30 - You have? - I have friends that work there, it's still Austin. - Okay.

00:00:00 Do you need to pack stuff up? Do you need to pack stuff up? I packed the dirty stuff. Maybe just leave the... Can you just put the microphone on, please.

00:01:14 I thought you were like, "I'm a person, not each of my friends." Why did I come to church? So no way to escape. You want to do it, it's like... Well, if this ever becomes a good friend, I don't know what the people can do, or I said that there are lots of reasons for becoming a person. It's really that it's good versus equal, not a huge one friend. And I really feel like we're going to be doing it. You're very impressive. - Very good. - Very good. - Very good. - Yeah, I will send you notes. - Yeah, they make noise. - I will send you your... - Yeah, just let me know how much it costs. - I will keep you whole, as they say to her. Make sure you're able to lose money, and you know.

00:02:07 First of all, I save information from CD disk for hard disk. Because you do everything on disk, right?

00:02:23 And everyone just transfers them over, nothing's on the internet? Yes. A patient gave me MRI scan and I used this MRI scan to save in my hard disk. Hard disk in order to have a lot of information about my patients. I operated in other 5000 cases as well information. same setting of the right and possibility to analyze my own results after one two

00:02:58 three four five years and now

00:03:08 oh yeah probably spider in here yeah just close the door sorry yes I save this information for this and after that I use radiant program and open this and in my mind need need create to plan surgery. Surgery will continue one, two, three, four, five more hours. My longest operation

00:03:55 was 10 hours. That's why I need to prepare my plan number one. What I need to do if something happened i need to know prepare another way to resolve this problem that's why now i upload upload this

00:04:44 Okay.

00:11:05 *Gruppern*

00:11:24 What is the quality of the video? He asked what the quality of the video is.

00:11:35 That was good. It's a real situation, I work in this place. I have my cabinet, but I prefer this place.

00:11:47 This is like a cat in the... Do you work with this plastic thing down or do you work on the wood itself?

00:11:57 It's not plastic, it's... Yeah, it's beautiful.

00:12:03 It's beautiful.

00:12:07 You've got the tech you need and you've got the pen and paper. Yes, I like this. I use this paper pen and some prepare my thoughts what I need to do tomorrow. That's why it's like an air navigation. It's Ukrainian variant, but this navigation is in my brain. and I go to the bed, sleep and my brain continue to work and when I wake up early in the morning I know what I need to do. That's why I work very fast in this time always safety for patients with

00:12:55 excellent result. For example this week we operate with Alex two difficult cases. One case is only 80 minutes from start working with microscope to tumor removal today we spent only 70 minutes for this surgery that's why from one another case is

00:13:16 shorter shorter shorter but repeat it's safety for patient that's why thank you And you got your go juice, you got your coffee. You can take a sip to end the-- Yes. It's maybe a bit coffee for today. It's maybe a bit coffee for today. All right. All right.

00:00:00 10 10 10 and place 31 31 10 31 okay at the number train 120 119

00:00:00 10 10 10 and place 31 31 10 31 okay at the number train 120 119

00:00:16 oh yeah it's 120 to the from from chelm to Dnepro but train 119 yes it's wagon 10 31 remember the slogan 119 10 31 yes 19 10 31 119 10 31

00:00:35 no shot train wagon

00:00:39 all guys in car no shot no shot no shot i remember we never nobody forgotten no

00:00:51 We did not forget me. Oh yeah. Let's go. Let's go. Would you like music maybe?

00:01:00 Alex, would you like music? Uh, not. Yes, I like music. Well, so okay, this is what happens in the operating room, right? People like music and I usually like listen to classical music that I'm working or studying, but that does not go over well in the operating room, so we reach a consensus. in texas it's usually country and western music i don't understand why you can't just uh overrule

00:01:24 everybody because surgery is a team sport and teams don't do well under autocratic leaders well

00:01:31 but like you know classical music can improve brain function and you're working on improving brain function so you know there's lots of studies have looked at this and the results of what you might expect if you're somebody who usually has music playing in a background when you're working then

00:01:49 your surgery is quicker with music but if you hate music and then you play in the OR it may affect your performance you know negatively so when we heard music we became become more calm this situation is our daily routine work we work in team and not noisy it's is when the calm music is help us to work in the right rhythm right right here yes

00:02:37 but in some situation when i perform most difficult stage of surgery for example work on brainstem i asked you need to switch off no music no speaking in the room it's only i only i

00:03:00 can speak all need to hear me attend attentively okay it's not a long time maybe 20 30 minutes but it's happened i asked nobody any voice any sound i must be maximum concentration in this moment and all like olya like karina must hear me immediately what one situation happened for example rupture some vessels and start bleeding i need to give me clips give me clips or switch on the second aspiration yeah yes and natalia what

00:03:54 is a blood pressure what is a heart rate what i need how many blood loss maybe need to blood transfusion prepare blood and my assistant active and pay attention but another time i like music when Roka was in our operation room he brought country music. Country music is very like

00:04:37 six string guitars driving with horse. It's very interesting. So before my first trip the residents we had working our service were doing a lot of like was it stuff like red hot chili peppers and Hootie and the blowfish and all that. Yeah. And I get here to Ukraine and like the first song I hear is red hot chili

00:05:01 peppers followed by Hootie and the blowfish.

00:05:07 I heard Madonna the other day in the OR. Usually it's Ukrainian. usually but it's a preferred by my operation nurses or anesthesiologist

00:05:25 that's why when i came to operation room they decided what we need to hear today you know i think i should do a study it seems that the residents who are the uh let's just say the least good the ones who still have a lot more learning to do

00:05:48 yeah play the music really loud because they think it's cool the ones who are good realize it's just kind of some background i know that uh uh like uh loud music urgent urgent operation room Maybe, like Rock, maybe you can ask him more. But I know that even our general director says it's very chic, very noisy in the OR. What happened? It's that Bohdan was operating together with Nikita Gulidina. It's a friend he like likes to Be on duty together with him and Nikita from anesthesia. I know Nikita

00:00:00 take part in running according to a day of stroke running all doctors have a short run

00:00:00 take part in running according to a day of stroke running all doctors have a short run running in order to show we are very healthy and need to prevent stroke or stroke day yes on Wednesday. Oh, okay. And I asked a general director, give me possibility, I don't like go to this action, I need to go in operation room together with Alex Volatka to perform surgery for our woman. Yeah. The woman? Yeah.

00:00:49 Okay, so guys give Bohdan a hard time tomorrow or Sunday about the kind of

00:00:53 music he listens to in the OR. Yeah. I think I'm gonna encourage it. We had one resident that was really really good but boy the music he played in the morning that first case sounds like he was out clubbing or something like that all night and never made it home. Just

00:01:08 straight into the OR. It's a wonderful amazing week yes yes only all days was full many activities many activities with excellent results, excellent emotion, amazing, all synonyms.

00:01:42 It's like we never waste time. We use time in the best way. Have you ever been in an OR before and seen surgery? No. So this is the first for all three you guys that's awesome so not only do you go into a war zone a third of the way around the world

00:02:02 but you actually got to see a naked brain yeah there's three of them i am i complain maybe i am sure you need to film the operated was performed tatiana today

00:02:23 for young lady do you remember Laura was patient and Tatiana performed surgery yeah yeah we need to

00:02:32 we need to film this I don't really I didn't really film it I got some stills I got a film and they're already up on Facebook and Twitter I noticed that Logan was very afraid maybe due to your action uh alex with tatiana uh laura can lost vision on the right eye

00:03:03 that's a logan was worried a lot of i just want to lord to stay still yeah you know closing your eye it's like you're gonna lose your

00:03:14 your eye because you keep closing it. Yeah but my wife. Yeah dude just wait till you're the one with

00:03:20 the contact lens in the wrong place. Yeah my wife performed a lot of surgeries obstetric surgeries to receive to go to baby. That's why his hand is very strong very precise precise because in the uterine

00:03:39 need to cut it not to prevent to damage the head of the baby that's why Laura I was sure in success this operation do you know what bedside manner is Landry what bedside manner but side man yeah it's how a doctor talks to their patients are they very nice and patient. Tatiana has excellent bedside manner. Oh yeah. She was very very nice. I called it couchside manner in her case. The location. Any port in the store. Laura was going blind, her vision getting worse by the minute. Tatiana stepped in to save her.

00:04:29 Wow. Oh my, oh look at the line. Is that a line of people again? Yeah.

00:00:00 Yeah, we need to go get your back.

00:00:00 Yeah, we need to go get your back. Let's get through this and we'll talk about it tomorrow. We check information and after that go to... Zach, can you stay back, Chad? Yeah. We will wait information from this schedule.

00:01:12 We will wait information from this schedule. When we see our train, we will see the track. The track can go to the track. Due to the air alarm, this entrance is closed. That's why we need to go through this entrance. We can wait for information, because there's no information right now.

00:01:46 Only towards Kyiv. [INAUDIBLE] - So the trains are seem to be on time even when there's air attacks. I wonder, did they just decrease the length of time it stops or something to pick up the slack?

00:02:31 - I guess. - Our trains should have been here by now. Yeah. You're hiding and not running when there's drones and missiles flying around. - We're filming you, Alex, so I'm gonna see. - Yeah, that's why I was kind of looking off and not talking directly to the camera. so you can be looking in the correct direction here. so you can be looking in the correct direction here. Yeah, I'm looking at you, big guy. Yeah. Yeah.

00:03:13 Blackout in our house, my wife phoned me and said... Oh, now there's a blackout? Blackout now. At home. At home. That's why we escaped in time.

00:03:30 Yeah? Yes.

00:03:40 okay here's Ukrainian rail

00:03:52 schedule What station is this? It's true. It's true. I think the car sure doesn't have 119.

00:04:30 Yeah. Yeah, this is the same information here. Yeah, this is the same information here. Yeah, there's nothing new here. When we will see our train, we will know about the number of track.

00:04:44 We pick up our...

00:05:46 The next day is the

00:00:00 [RUS-NEEDS] И, Логан, Алекс, я хочу показать вам, вы видите этот здание?

00:00:07 And, Logan, Alex, I want to show you, do you see this building? Yes. The central part of this building was completely destroyed. It's totally destroyed. It's due to missile attack. The building is the corner. It's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And the middle part of this is totally destroyed due to missile attack. I don't remember the day what happened. I can check and show. I remember you said the building. But they rebuilt it.

00:01:05 [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT]

00:01:22 Okay, I'm very proud of myself. So that Gobi thing is actually an SH sound. And the Y is a U. And the P is an R. So it's Sharma. It's a Middle Eastern place.

00:01:42 Sharma. I'll help you. Okay. One. Two. Yes. Yes. And this also? Yeah, two of those. Yeah, I guess I will put those in the luggage. And this one? That's my senior position uniform. Oh, yes, this is a match-nickle uniform. Yeah, match-nickle-finger uniform. How did this get in there? I think it will be helpful. Yeah, okay, a gift from God. Yeah, okay, a gift from God. Oh my briefcase. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

00:02:43 Okay. This one? I'll take those. Where is your... Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I got. Okay. I can take this one.

00:03:39 *Squadal*

00:03:58 Vladimir Vladimirovich

00:04:30 You can stay here, I close my car and come back soon. I'll hold it. Yeah. Yeah. I'll come back soon. Yeah. Yeah. As far as I know in the past when we've done this, the train has been here way before now. We just walked right on. Don't know how long it's going to be delayed. Hopefully not too long. I'm talking to my manager friend over there. That was exactly what you should do. That was exactly what you should do.

00:05:23 We did hear the air raid siren at Andre's house.

00:05:28 It was kind of quiet though.

00:05:30 Yeah, we did hear it briefly. I guess that's why everyone is standing around here. I'm just waiting for updates about their train. Maybe they're my train. So in four minutes it'll be exactly 30 minutes until the train leaves. We'll see if there's an update at 30 minutes.

00:00:00 So we're standing outside the train station here in Dnipro. So we're standing outside the train station here in Dnipro. We can't go into main entrance because the recent air raid siren closed it off, so people are going around the side there. And my train is supposed to leave in about half an hour. In the past, I've come here and the train's been on the track, you just walk right on, but apparently the siren's in danger of the air attack, the late things. So hopefully we'll leave on time at about 10:45. Pull into Poland and get off this train at maybe 4:30ish or so in Poland. Pick up an hour across from the border. Two hours there, get into Warsaw about 9:30 or so.

00:00:45 Saturday night and Sunday at 6:30 on a plane out, Frankfurt and then Dallas. It's been an amazing, exhausting week. I know as soon as I lay my head on a train, I'm going to be drooling all over a pillow somewhere. Need some time to think about all the stuff that's happened, but of course I'm worrying most about the patients. I'm thinking about the soldier we operated on on Monday. He had some horrible injuries. Cautiously optimistic about his recovery. You know, he's had a tough course so far, but his CT scan looks good. As we decrease his sedation, he seems to be waking up a little bit more. And, you know, neurological recovery is measured in months and years, not just days.

00:01:30 So hopefully he'll be okay. I see a lot of movement. Okay. Going to the train. Track five. Track five. Train, one hundred.

00:01:43 Yeah. Yeah. You can.

00:02:01 *Sounds of the *Sounds of the

00:02:57 Sunday Well, unfortunately, it's very important. The money runs out in months. And you get used to a different way of life. Well, like, I think Sanek isn't really saving.

00:03:30 Well, like... Well, he's renting an apartment, you know? At the very least.

00:03:37 Okay? Yeah, we're good at that.

00:04:20 [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT]

00:05:34 13. on his hand.

00:06:06 I think it's better here.

00:06:46 *Skills* Hey, it's Halloween! Can you see that? The ladies are masks The ladies are masks and child cried Ah!

00:07:31 .

00:07:59 I'm from Kyiv, Dnipro, and this is my second combat tour.

00:08:05 Yes, yes, I remember. He's a good person. Please, please.

00:00:00 talking about the patients, feeling good?

00:00:00 talking about the patients, feeling good? Yeah, so just thinking about the week as a whole, first thing that comes to mind is the patients. And the military guy's pretty sick, as I said, but hopefully he'll be okay, it may just take some time. The others did well. The tumors operated on. So, contact is a plus, at least for now. Hopefully the military guy will continue to do well. But the other thing besides the patience of course is just the sheer gratitude that people Just seeing me there, even if I didn't do anything, just knowing that an American went all that Just seeing me there, even if I didn't do anything, just knowing that an American went all that way, took all the effort just to try to work with them and show some solidarity with them

00:00:45 was very touching. We had a farewell dinner last night and part of the tradition is you go around the table and everyone gives a toast and they were all very complimentary and I think they spoke from the heart so there's a promise that my I'm coming back sometime in the spring it'd be wonderful if the war weren't going on they could come back in peacetime but that does not look likely at this point so we'll just keep on keeping on trying to support them doing the incredible job they do so I was I I was interested. Is all that noise going to be a killer? I mean, we're on a train. Yeah, that's true. Okay. Yes, but not in this situation.

00:01:30 So, I was struck by your, you know, Andre was telling you, again, about all the things that have gone on. And, you know, with you at the time was someone who lives this every day. And you were just talking about how, like I'm talking about Anastasia and I don't know how to talk about her in this conversation.

00:01:58 But like you got, you know, kind of very reflective when you thought about like not seeing this through your own eyes, but seeing it through the eyes of the people who have to live it. So I was talking to someone today who, sorry, made nameless, a member of our, my extended team in Dnipro, and she is a very attractive woman, but she made a comment that she was recently looking at some pictures of herself, and she thinks she has aged horribly because of the war. She thinks she's a lot older than she was just a few years ago and Driving back from this little farewell dinner last night in Nandar's car There's some explosions which is a little concerning in the last couple of nights. We went down to the shelter

00:02:46 or almost did Which I had never had to do before this is my fourth visit here. So my fourth Five-day tour so to speak that was never an issue now. It's gone two days in a row And even a tiniest fraction of time Michael one night or a few hours You get to start thinking you know you start looking around the thinking you know Should I really stay away from the windows and every time you start hearing like a low pitch sound like a trolley starting up You wonder is this gonna be an air raid alarm starting? And I've only done this for a day or two and hopefully in 24 hours without incident they'll be back on NATO soil and they won't be. They're going to continue to live this way, trying to carry on a normal life, trying to have a nice farewell dinner at a nice restaurant, knowing theoretically that at any moment the drone or missile could come through. I mean, it's got to take a toll on people.

00:03:42 The analogy someone used is like looking at the presidents in the United States as they age. You know, they take office in good shape and four years, especially eight years later, they they've aged a couple of decades and I don't know if the chronological or the physical deterioration is quite as analogous to that but certainly the

00:04:00 the psychological damage especially the kids who are growing up I mean some of these kids are just kind of coming of age I mean you know coming becoming conscious not just little toddlers anymore this is the only life they've ever

00:04:13 known and you gotta wonder what the long-term effects of that are gonna be Now just look out the window for a second and sit. I'll tell you to come back to me in a moment.

00:04:32 Alright, just look at me for a bit and then just check your hand. Put your hands one more time. Come here Alex. And then look up at Thaddeus. Why don't you look out again? Come back to me. Back down on your hands. They're really slow. It's like a quarter of that speed. It's like a quarter of that speed. Yeah, true.

00:05:20 Next time you pray, what is your prayer going to be? I pray for you to pray every night. I pray for Ukrainian people.

00:05:29 Andrei and his family in particular.

00:05:34 He's a gift. Yeah, he's a classic situation of sort of a right man in the right situation for the right circumstances. You know, he doesn't have to stay. A guy like him could go anywhere, but, you know, he feels a duty, an obligation, a sense of commitment to stay and not just kind of survive like a hedgehog by ducking and hiding until the storm passes, but by stepping up and leading. Just all the things I was reminded of on seeing him at rounds in the OR, the way he laughs and jokes with his team. You know, very horizontal hierarchy kind of guy. There's not that much distinction between the big guy and the lowest person on the team.

00:06:22 that he tries to keep people up, keep them motivated because they really need it. And again, talking to somebody earlier today about why he's coming back here, at this point it's simple, they're my friends. And they're in a very difficult situation and you want to help your friends out as much as you can.

00:06:45 We talk to people who have lost loved ones. just the scale is pretty unimaginable. And now as you make more friends, the longer this goes,

00:06:57 the more likely it's going to affect someone you actually know. Someone said that everyone in Ukraine knows someone who has been injured or killed in the war. And Ukraine's a country, it used to be, I think, 44 million before the war. Now it's maybe in the 30-some million. That's still a huge country. And every one of those 30, 35 million knows someone who's been injured in the war or killed. That's a staggering number, and it continues to grow every day. One thing that's unfortunately new compared to my last visit was these warrants they had set up at the foot of the hill that goes up to the hospital.

00:07:42 And they keep the military casualties separate from the morgue residents who had civilian type deaths, you know, heart attack and stroke and things like that.

00:07:54 It's a very grim reminder that those services are going to be needed for a while.

00:08:02 It's a vision that will stay with you. Yeah. You know, I think I mentioned in some of these talks I give that one of the things that first, I think, preconditioned me to be willing to follow Rocco and go here was a visit I made to what we call the KGB Museum in Vilnius, Lithuania, which was the headquarters of the old KGB building. And part of that, you go into the basement, you see the torture chamber, you see where people were executed, and it's a pretty depressing place. And then you kind of transfer some of that to what's going on in Ukraine and just looking at what's happening in geopolitics right now, no one seems really interested in trying to end this war in any kind of realistic manner. So these poor people are going to keep suffering.

00:08:53 Time to go. Keep looking at me as they open the door. All right. And we're done. All right. We can go. We can go. All right. You want something, Logan? No, no, um, here, let's clear out. I might just get a little shot. Okay, sorry, Andrew, we didn't mean to, we're very rude to shut you out like that.

00:09:14 Mathadius is a brilliant, uh, interviewer. Should I get out so it's just him in here? Sit, sit. Sit, sit. Sit. One more second. Yep, I'm coming. Yep, I'm coming. Go out. Yes, thank you, director. What do you want me to do with Mathadius? Hold on. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:09:36 Alex, I know we will go together with Dr. Rebele Tovach. He has a bias above you. Who is that? I will introduce you. Okay, okay. Yes. Yes. You know him? Okay. Okay. I want to say that this week we were doing light

00:10:27 to support, to continue supporting during the war.

00:10:30 At first, I think it will be the fifth, but I wish you that next time in a peaceful Ukraine. Yes, I hope it will be wonderful. And together with his wife and his daughter, we will spend a lot of time

00:10:54 Maybe in my countryside house. Yes, as you know, my daughter has a degree in psychology, so when she finishes her formal training, she'll be interested in helping also.

00:11:04 Andrei, I am exhausted, because it's been a very busy, very good week. Yes, very good week. Like a flash. A lot of emotion, a lot of activities, as usual. I can't believe it's time to go. We never waste time. We use time in the best manner for our patients. Yes. We have a conversation, dialogue with patients, with my team, the neurosurgical team and the physiologist team. It's very important for all of us during this difficult time for Ukraine.

00:11:39 It's your support. It inspires us to fight. No, no, no. You're the ones who inspire me. That's why I keep coming back.

00:11:46 I'll send you - This is Valentina, it's Alex. - Alex. - Alex, she was last connoisseur. - So Alex, I will see you on window. - I warn you not be as like a rocker. - I warn you not be as like a rocker.

00:12:30 - No, not like, although this is a pretty woman. - That's a pretty woman, yeah. - Okay, are we here? - Oh, no. Oh! Yeah. Yeah, squeeze over a little bit. I'm up against the window. Yeah, okay. You guys go in that way? I'll go out this way. Yeah. Yikes.

00:13:03 Can you get off the frame this way? Alright, well at least we can let other people get out. Alright, well at least we can let other people get out. What time is it? Here, we can... Oh, we got five minutes. Yeah, we gotta get up. Alright. Yeah, let's just squeeze the nurse.

00:13:48 Alright Logan? I enjoy it man. Stay in touch. See you soon. Have a safe trip. Thanks for everything.

00:14:19 I'm going to go that way, and I'm just going to go that way. Andre, did you train to go this way? I think the other is up to the direction. Right. I can't help you.

00:15:09 yeah

00:15:16 sit down sit down sit down sit down yeah yeah it's perfect

00:16:28 [RUS] ah

00:17:05 You have good company, very beautiful women. You have good company, very beautiful women. I think you'll be going on the train and after that you'll be in this room. And we will spend a lot of time on the laptop. You forgot about me and start to speak with women, yeah? But it's... One minute left, yeah? Yeah. It's in our Universal University Clinic created a big department,

00:17:53 rehabilitation center for patients with spinal injury. This woman heads this department for patient rehabilitation. That's why I... Later I will organize a visit to this center. It's close to my place. It's close to our route. The back of the street. A-bogacin' this. The

00:00:00 [RUS-NEEDS] Я посмотрел на картинку, что вы посмотрели.

00:00:52 I looked at the image that you looked at. You won't be able to do anything serious. Maximum would be to give him mannitol IV. You have some plasma there. Yes, I think that's enough. Because during the surgery he'll bleed.

00:01:45 I understand. I understand. Okay, severe trauma. Does he have combined injuries? No. Isolated. Removed the epidural. Doing anything more with such platelet counts, I believe, is wrong. Okay then, okay then. Hang in there. [DELETED - ASR ARTIFACT]

00:02:45 What's happened? You need my help? No. I had a talk with a military neurosurgeon who performed surgery and had some problems during surgery. and perform CT control and send me CT control and ask my... it's not decision, it's advice what need to do in this case. It's very important. Maybe 11:00 p.m., but I always, with my phone, and I always around the clock, Even in holiday weekend, in touch with my colleague,

00:03:32 a military neurosurgeon near the front line. It's very important for me and for them to be always on touch and make decisions together. Yes. Let's go. Let's go.

00:00:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: to Free Flaps. This case

00:00:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: to Free Flaps. This case

00:00:03 Speaker 1: 22-23 age

00:00:04 [RUS] Speaker 1: we have a wounded [RUS] Speaker 2: combined trauma. [RUS] Speaker 2: combined trauma.

00:00:10 [UKR] Speaker 1: Here ophthalmologists, [UKR] Speaker 1: enucleation of the left eye was performed, [UKR] Speaker 1: and osteometal synthesis [UKR] Speaker 1: of the maxillofacial complex. [UKR] Speaker 3: So, Ivanovych, you have another minute, [UKR] Speaker 3: please. Yes, yes. [UKR] Speaker 1: This is the result [UKR] Speaker 1: after [UKR] Speaker 1: after we [UKR] Speaker 1: how to say it correctly, over dinner, defeated the infected wounds, the neglected ones. [UKR] Speaker 1: This guy continues to serve, is in the ranks. [UKR] Speaker 1: This is also plastic surgery, oral cavity preparation and installation of alveolar prosthesis, [UKR] Speaker 1: Also prosthetics on dental implants, examples of osteometal synthesis of jaw in the maxillofacial complex,

00:01:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: lower jaw osteometal synthesis, examples of lower jaw osteometal synthesis, [UKR] Speaker 1: next, multiple fragment fracture of the lower jaw on the left with maxillofacial complex. [UKR] Speaker 1: A patient also came to us from the train, we performed osteometal synthesis of the lower jaw, there is plastic surgery of soft tissue defects. [UKR] Speaker 1: So here is the CT result after, quite good positioning of fragments, with maximum preservation of their own local bone tissue. [UKR] Speaker 1: Managed this on the second, on the third day result of post-operative intervention. Patient is still undergoing treatment with us.

00:01:52 [UKR] Speaker 1: These are also some examples of computed tomography, wounds with defects, replacement with parietal bone. This is also an example colleagues from DISI operated and we together with them continue to monitor this patient. [UKR] Speaker 1: Also we remove metal fragments under the scapula, some examples, and rehabilitation of military personnel, dental implantation, [UKR] Speaker 1: because everyone needs it and comes to us for a smile, asking how to eat, how to communicate, how to live further.

00:02:35 [UKR] Speaker 1: Thank you for your attention. Report completed. [UKR] Speaker 3: Thank you, Vadym Ivanovych, for your report. Very interesting clinical cases of high-tech, highly specialized treatment of the maxillofacial area. [UKR] Speaker 3: Thank you, Vadym Ivanovych. Dear colleagues, next report - reconstruction of gunshot fractures of facial skeleton and skull bones by type of primary surgical debridement of wounds with open reduction and internal osteosynthesis. [UKR] Speaker 3: Speaker Zhuzhoma Mykola Serhiyovych, co-authors of the report, chief of the Military Medical Clinical Center of the Northern Region, [UKR] Speaker 3: Hero of Ukraine Colonel of Medical Service Kharashun Kaduat Mykolayovych, leading surgeon of the Military Medical Clinical Center of the Northern Region,

00:03:27 [UKR] Speaker 3: Colonel of Medical Service Shepilov Serhiy Anatoliyovych, [UKR] Speaker 3: Doctor of Medical Sciences, Professor, Colonel of Medical Service Nehaduyka Volodymyr Volodymyrovych, [UKR] Speaker 3: also Smelyanets and Otchyk. [UKR] Speaker 3: Please, Mykola Serhiyovych, if your report is ready, we will listen to it with pleasure. [UKR] Speaker 3: Thank you.

00:04:16 [UKR] Speaker 3: of the Northern Region. Dear colleagues, we move forward. We begin the work of our next section. Combat surgical trauma of visual organs. Next report. Multi-stage reconstruction of the anterior segment after combat ophthalmic trauma clinical cases.

00:04:39 [UKR] Speaker 3: Siryk Oleksiy Mykolayovych. Please, Oleksiy Mykolayovych, if we have everything ready, if our report is ready, please, we will listen to you with pleasure. [UKR] Speaker 4: Serhiy Oleksandrovych Allow me, Hrynevych, VNKCR, neurosurgery department. There was probably a technical failure, as one report was missed in the neurosurgical block. My experience performing reconstructive operations on the peripheral nervous system.

00:05:17 [UKR] Speaker 4: In principle, if the speakers from other blocks are still preparing, I could deliver my report, thus gaining that pause. [UKR] Speaker 3: Understood, the Military Medical Clinical Center of the Western Region as the hosts wants to assert their rights. [UKR] Speaker 3: I think we, colleagues, will not object, we support this variant of our work, please. [UKR] Speaker 3: Let's begin, bring your report to full screen mode, please.

00:06:00 [UKR] Speaker 3: Is it visible? [UKR] Speaker 3: The report is not visible. Please, I ask you to bring it to the screen in full screen mode.

00:06:19 [RUS] Speaker 3: To be continued...

00:06:39 [RUS] Speaker 3: Work in full screen mode.

00:06:56 [UKR] Speaker 2: Is it visible in full screen now, yes? [UKR] Speaker 3: No, not yet.

00:07:00 [RUS] Speaker 3: Work on it.

00:07:17 [UKR] Speaker 3: Ruslan Mykhailovych, your presentation is clearly visible in full screen mode, we can hear you well, please, begin. [UKR] Speaker 4: Topic of the report - experience performing reconstructive operations on the peripheral nervous system. [UKR] Speaker 4: Peripheral nerve injuries and their consequences are a significant problem for both patient and doctor. [UKR] Speaker 4: Such injuries often lead to pronounced loss of sensation and motor function of the affected limb, [UKR] Speaker 4: which significantly limits the patient's ability to work and their daily activity, requiring prolonged and complex recovery. [UKR] Speaker 4: Loss of functionality, chronic pain significantly affects patients' quality of life. [UKR] Speaker 4: Timely diagnosis of adequate surgical treatment and rehabilitation are critically important for achieving optimal functional recovery and minimizing long-term consequences.

00:08:06 [UKR] Speaker 4: Reconstructive surgery of peripheral nerves is aimed at restoring the integrity of nerve trunks and their functions, providing hope for full return to active life. [UKR] Speaker 4: Often with point gunshot wounds the significant appearance of the wound seems insignificant. [UKR] Speaker 4: However, nerve damage leads to significant loss of limb function, which is difficult to restore.

00:08:30 [UKR] Speaker 4: The problem in treating these patients is the mismatch of spent resources, [UKR] Speaker 4: including time for performing the operation, duration of rehabilitation measures to expected results. [UKR] Speaker 4: Considering the theoretical speed of axon growth in humans, which is about 1 mm per day, [UKR] Speaker 4: Probable results of reconstructive operations on the peripheral nervous system should be expected in the distant post-operative period. [UKR] Speaker 4: High nerve injuries are accompanied by longer recovery period, if it happens at all.

00:09:00 [UKR] Speaker 4: Analysis of results of reconstructive operations on the peripheral nervous system should be conducted in the distant post-operative period over 12 months. [UKR] Speaker 4: The complexity lies in the fact that such patients get lost, contact with them is difficult. [UKR] Speaker 4: Early signs of nerve conductivity restoration are migrating pain as axons grow and is interpreted by patients as a negative result of the operation. [UKR] Speaker 4: And is accompanied by taking pain medications, complicates rehabilitation treatment, reduces patient motivation, prompts performance of myoplastic operations in the early post-operative period. [UKR] Speaker 4: In turn, the appearance of slight movements is a powerful motivational factor for the patient. [UKR] Speaker 4: With combined injuries, especially with limb damage, nerve neglect is often observed.

00:09:48 [UKR] Speaker 4: Loss of limb function is perceived by the patient as something normal, logical, because there is a fracture, [UKR] Speaker 4: which leads to postponing the issue of diagnosing injuries and restoring nerve integrity [UKR] Speaker 4: and reduces the probability of a positive operation result. [UKR] Speaker 4: Such patients expect that by removing the external fixation, limb function will restore, [UKR] Speaker 4: and after nerve surgery expect immediate results. [UKR] Speaker 4: The opposite group of patients with peripheral nerve damage are those who have pronounced pain syndrome in the limb, associated with formed neuroma. [UKR] Speaker 4: A positive result for this category of patients is primarily reduction of pain syndrome, and only then restoration of limb function. [UKR] Speaker 4: This slide presents the median nerve at the level of the lower third of the forearm with the presence of intraneural foreign body.

00:10:33 [UKR] Speaker 4: Photo below after its removal. [UKR] Speaker 4: Presented is a case of a patient with pronounced neuropathic pain in the left lower limb, caused by nerve compression by connective tissue scar, with presence of intraneural foreign body. [UKR] Speaker 4: The nerve was freed from the scar, foreign body removed, subsequently performed endoneurolysis. [UKR] Speaker 4: Dissection of the epineural sheath of the nerve above the site of injury. [UKR] Speaker 4: With the aim of reducing internal trunk tension, caused by fascicle swelling, presence of internal trunk neuroma. [UKR] Speaker 4: Patient notes significant reduction of pain syndrome intensity in the post-operative period. [UKR] Speaker 4: More examples of perineural foreign bodies. [UKR] Speaker 4: In this case, quite a massive fragment is located near the ulnar nerve at the level of the upper third of the forearm.

00:11:23 [UKR] Speaker 4: In the post-operative period notes regression of local and radiating to 4-5 fingers pain, but motor function is not restored. [UKR] Speaker 4: High nerve injuries have less prognostic probability of limb function restoration, [UKR] Speaker 4: in connection with which certain category of injuries was accompanied by neurotization by adjacent nerves in more distal part of the limb, [UKR] Speaker 4: which in turn accelerates recovery time. [UKR] Speaker 4: Shown is the line of future incision when planning neurotization of the ulnar nerve by the anterior interosseous nerve [UKR] Speaker 4: with complete ulnar nerve injury at the level of the upper third of the shoulder with nerve end diastasis over 7 cm. [UKR] Speaker 4: Stage of the operation is isolation of the anterior interosseous nerve, which is a branch of the median nerve. [UKR] Speaker 4: Then its transposition and subsequent suturing to the motor branch of the ulnar nerve by end-to-side anastomosis.

00:12:12 [UKR] Speaker 4: Can also be performed end-to-end.

00:12:16 [RUS] Speaker 4: The photo shows the already applied anastomosis.

00:12:21 [UKR] Speaker 4: We await positive results. [UKR] Speaker 4: General appearance of the wound after operation. [UKR] Speaker 4: Cases of applying epineural suture without using donor grafts were more often accompanied by internal trunk neuroma formation. [UKR] Speaker 4: Led to repeat operations, which is likely caused by tension between nerve ends. [UKR] Speaker 4: Shown is the site of ulnar nerve injury at the level of the lower third of the shoulder. [UKR] Speaker 4: After nerve isolation, signs of wound channel passage through the nerve trunk were revealed with neuroma formation and nerve involvement in connective tissue scar. [UKR] Speaker 4: The nerve was mobilized, neuroma removal performed with subsequent neurorrhaphy. [UKR] Speaker 4: The removed neuroma on section, that is solid nerve scar, fascicular structure is absent.

00:13:08 [UKR] Speaker 4: In this case, nerve end alignment was achieved through ulnar nerve transposition to the flexor surface of the limb, [UKR] Speaker 4: elimination of ulnar flexion, and also by limb flexion in the ulnar joint. [UKR] Speaker 4: In this case, tension between nerve ends is possible, in connection with which the probability of neuroma formation in this place remains. [UKR] Speaker 4: To avoid limb tension, immobilized with plaster splint, positioned in flexion at 90 degrees angle, for three weeks with subsequent gradual limb extension. [UKR] Speaker 4: Presented are other similar cases of ulnar nerve injury. [UKR] Speaker 4: On the left is the injury site, on the right side transposition to the flexor surface has already been performed and the nerve is sutured by applying end-to-end anastomosis.

00:13:58 [UKR] Speaker 4: Use of autografts allows avoiding re-injury negatives, increases chances for conductivity restoration in the affected nerve, but does not guarantee restoration to the state of undamaged limb. [UKR] Speaker 4: In the photo is an example of simultaneous complete injury of the great tibial and partial up to 70% damage of the common peroneal nerve after their neurotoplasty. [UKR] Speaker 4: Presented is a clinical case of gunshot injury of the ulnar nerve at the level of the lower third of the forearm. [UKR] Speaker 4: Yellow retractors hold the distal and proximal part of the ulnar nerve, also isolated is the stump of the damaged ulnar artery. [UKR] Speaker 4: After nerve end isolation, signs of its complete anatomical rupture were revealed with nerve end diastasis, after their refreshment until appearance of unchanged fascicles, which amounted to 4.5 cm.

00:14:44 [UKR] Speaker 4: In this case, for the purpose of autoplasty, sural nerve harvest was performed with total length 28 cm, from which 5 nerve grafts of 5 cm were formed, [UKR] Speaker 4: which were successively sutured together, forming appropriate caliber by diameter of the required nerve. [UKR] Speaker 4: and the already formed transplant was sutured between the ends of the damaged nerve. [UKR] Speaker 4: Final result - tension is absent, end alignment is satisfactory. [UKR] Speaker 4: Another example of ulnar nerve autoplasty at the level of the border of upper third and middle third of the forearm. [UKR] Speaker 4: Presented is median nerve autoplasty at the forearm level. [UKR] Speaker 4: And also radial nerve autoplasty at the level of the lower third of the shoulder.

00:15:33 [UKR] Speaker 4: Case of great tibial nerve injury of the left lower limb at the level of the middle third of the leg [UKR] Speaker 4: and concomitant traumatic amputation of the right lower limb at the level of the upper third of the leg [UKR] Speaker 4: During great tibial nerve revision, signs of its complete rupture with end diastasis after their refreshment up to 9 cm were revealed [UKR] Speaker 4: For the purpose of nerve plasty, decision was made about feasibility of harvesting the opposite great tibial nerve from the amputation stump [UKR] Speaker 4: as functionally on the stump it is exhausted, and its caliber and structure maximally corresponds to the required transplant. [UKR] Speaker 4: In this photo combined in itself in the foreground the site of great tibial nerve harvest from the right lower limb stump [UKR] Speaker 4: and the transplantation site in the left lower limb in the background.

00:16:23 [UKR] Speaker 4: As we see, the graft diameter maximally fits the caliber we require. [UKR] Speaker 4: Subsequently sutured to the proximal end with monofilament Prolene thread and to the distal end. [UKR] Speaker 4: Tension is absent, alignment is satisfactory. [UKR] Speaker 4: We expect the result will also be satisfactory. [UKR] Speaker 4: In the arsenal we also use donor autopsy and factory nerve grafts. [UKR] Speaker 4: Examples of their use. [UKR] Speaker 4: There is a direct proportion between the length of the insert segment and the probable axon growth through it. [UKR] Speaker 4: Operations in early periods after trauma from 1 to 6 months increase the prognosis for recovery, [UKR] Speaker 4: intraoperative use of hormonal drugs, installation of perineural catheter in patients with pain syndrome

00:17:13 [UKR] Speaker 4: significantly reduces pain intensity in the post-operative period. [UKR] Speaker 4: Analysis of results of reconstructive operations on the peripheral nervous system is advisable to conduct in the distant post-operative peri [UKR] Speaker 4: 12 months. [UKR] Speaker 4: Thank you for your attention.

00:17:30 [UKR] Speaker 3: Thank you for your report. [UKR] Speaker 3: Dear colleagues, [UKR] Speaker 3: next report. [UKR] Speaker 3: Reconstruction of gunshot fractures [UKR] Speaker 3: of facial skeleton bones

00:17:40 [RUS] Speaker 3: and skull by type

00:17:42 [UKR] Speaker 3: of primary surgical debridement [UKR] Speaker 3: of wounds with open reduction

00:17:46 [RUS] Speaker 3: and internal osteosynthesis.

00:17:48 [UKR] Speaker 3: Speaker Zhuzhoma [UKR] Speaker 3: Mykola Serhiyovych. Please, [UKR] Speaker 3: I ask you to remove your presentation

00:17:54 [RUS] Speaker 3: from the screen.

00:17:59 [UKR] Speaker 3: Previous speaker.

00:18:01 [RUS] Speaker 3: I ask you to remove [RUS] Speaker 3: from the screen

00:18:04 [UKR] Speaker 3: your presentation. [UKR] Speaker 3: Thank you.

00:19:15 [RUS] Speaker 4: Watching.

00:22:18 [RUS] Speaker 4: To be continued...

00:23:16 Speaker 4: Thank you.

00:24:36 Speaker 4: ...

00:26:10 [UKR] Speaker 2: Maybe we need to connect. [UKR] Speaker 2: Is there sound?

00:26:15 [RUS] Speaker 2: Let's see.

00:27:12 Speaker 2: Thanks.

00:00:00 [UKR-NEEDS] Дякуємо Андрій Андрійович за важливу доповідчу стосується косметичного відновлення придатків ока.

00:00:49 [UKR] Speaker 1: Thank you Andriy Andriyovych for the important report regarding cosmetic restoration of ocular adnexa.

00:00:59 [RUS] Speaker 1: This is a very important response, Igor Andriyovych, for the important [RUS] Speaker 2: responsibility regarding cosmetic restoration.

00:01:08 [RUS] Speaker 1: And I want to invite to speak, this is the military medical

00:01:14 [UKR] Speaker 1: clinical center of the northern region.

00:01:19 [RUS] Speaker 1: I invite Mrs. Maria Igorevna with a report about the possibilities [RUS] Speaker 1: in simultaneous bilateral ocular wounds.

00:01:31 Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you.

00:11:05 [UKR] Speaker 2: Thank you, Marina Igorivna, for the report.

00:11:31 [RUS] Speaker 1: The most reasonable solution.

00:11:34 [UKR] Speaker 1: Please, Volodymyr Vasylyovych.

00:12:05 Speaker 2: And so

00:12:06 [RUS] Speaker 2: if we have online data recording we can launch

00:13:02 [UKR] Speaker 3: Volodymyr Vasylyovych, please turn on your presentation and begin.

00:13:30 [UKR] Speaker 2: Something's not working right now.

00:14:28 [UKR] Speaker 1: Request to the technical department. [UKR] Speaker 1: Can we launch the next presentation that we have on record, Volodymyr Vasylyovych Poykych, who...

00:14:41 [UKR] Speaker 2: Department, can we launch the next presentation that we have on record, Volodymyr Vasylyovych Poykych, who...

00:15:40 [UKR] Speaker 2: Well showing slides is no problem, but they're not giving me access to the microphone for some reason.

00:15:44 [RUS] Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a moderator.

00:15:49 [UKR] Speaker 2: Oh, can you hear now, maybe like this?

00:23:49 Speaker 2: ...

00:24:27 [UKR] Speaker 4: And, of course, we need to consider the motivational component of the patient. [UKR] Speaker 2: Volodymyr, 15th, try hard, yes, work, copy.

00:24:55 [RUS] Speaker 2: 11th, 13th, copy.

00:25:37 [UKR] Speaker 1: Thank you. [UKR] Speaker 1: Thank you. [UKR] Speaker 1: This is also a very important topic. [UKR] Speaker 1: We see that these two patients considered themselves blind for several months already, [UKR] Speaker 1: but even, well, let's say, these psychological triggers helped one to emerge. [UKR] Speaker 1: [VO CANDIDATE] In fact, he now sees normally, leads an ordinary life, but this pathology is very difficult to diagnose, [UKR] Speaker 1: and here we really need to keep in mind and break through simulations, but these are confirmed cases, they can happen, [UKR] Speaker 1: they're not that frequent, but we need to understand that such pathology also occurs, and we need to know how to deal with it afterwards.

00:26:25 [UKR] Speaker 1: And the next report is again from Volodymyr Vasylyovych. [UKR] Speaker 1: The current strategy for preserving severe ocular injuries, regarding

00:26:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: the current situation and future decisions, we ask Volodymyr Vasylyovych.

00:26:47 [UKR] Speaker 2: Greetings, dear colleagues. Can you hear me.

00:27:16 [RUS] Speaker 4: The sound is great.

00:27:20 [UKR] Speaker 2: Please, greetings, dear colleagues. Today I present to you a topic, I came to discuss what we're solving, what we're solving, what we're solving, what we're solving, what we're solving,

00:28:09 [UKR] Speaker 2: The severity of visual organ injuries is caused by a large number of mine-blast wounds, in which...

00:28:19 Speaker 5: Yeah.

00:30:08 [UKR] Speaker 2: The severity of visual organ injuries is caused by the predominance of mine-blast wounds, [UKR] Speaker 2: in which several damaging factors act simultaneously. [UKR] Speaker 2: specifically the shock wave, multiple fragments, thermal factor, chemical factor, [UKR] Speaker 2: primary wound infection. [UKR] Speaker 2: Regarding classification, in our practice we use [UKR] Speaker 2: the Birmingham system of trauma terminology for standardized classification [UKR] Speaker 2: of mechanical damage, which distinguishes closed and open ocular globe trauma.

00:00:00 [UKR-NEEDS] А де завідувач ваш?

00:00:01 [UKR] Speaker 1: Where is your head doctor? [UKR] Speaker 1: - Maybe in the office? - No, it's empty there.

00:00:05 [RUS] Speaker 2: - Just straight ahead. - I'm not taking it now.

00:00:10 [UKR] Speaker 1: - Okay, ask where I am. [UKR] Speaker 1: And you already did the puncture? - Yes. [UKR] Speaker 1: - You did the puncture? Well, we'll wait now. [UKR] Speaker 1: Who are you? - I'm the wife. [UKR] Speaker 1: - Aha, I understand. And we're going to... [UKR] Speaker 1: We don't film without permission, so don't worry.

00:00:28 [UKR] Speaker 1: Where did you enter dressed? Get out of the intensive care unit, you can't walk here dressed, what are you doing?

00:00:33 [UKR] Speaker 3: Andriy Buivich, Andriy Buivich, high. [UKR] Speaker 1: It was the wife, this person, who decided, who had, what we want to do.

00:00:52 Speaker 1: I will answer our patient near the window Speaker 3: What did she say? Is that okay? Speaker 3: It was the wife of the closer patient Speaker 1: I told you in all situations if you decide to film your husband Speaker 1: He will ask you permission

00:01:14 Speaker 3: Can we go in? Speaker 1: We wait for the Chief of this Department

00:01:27 [UKR] Speaker 1: Anatoliy Yaroslavovych. [UKR] Speaker 1: The wife asked: "Will you film mine?" [UKR] Speaker 1: I said: "No, we don't film without permission, so she wouldn't worry". [UKR] Speaker 1: And I stopped other relatives, because they entered fully dressed in a fur coat without anything. [UKR] Speaker 1: We'll just look at ours, we'll just check on ours, Alexei Solitsko.

00:02:09 [UKR] Speaker 1: Tell us two words, Anatoliy Vyslovych.

00:02:12 [RUS] Speaker 4: Well, pressure is good.

00:02:13 [UKR] Speaker 1: And which number are you looking at?

00:02:16 [RUS] Speaker 1: The first one?

00:02:17 Speaker 4: Yes. 120.

00:02:19 [UKR] Speaker 4: The average text is normal.

00:02:22 [RUS] Speaker 4: Shows coma 1.

00:02:24 [UKR] Speaker 4: Not the worst, not the best. [UKR] Speaker 1: And sedation? [UKR] Speaker 4: We haven't stopped it yet.

00:02:31 Speaker 1: No. Speaker 1: No.

00:02:32 [UKR] Speaker 4: We still have lumbar puncture sedation.

00:02:34 [RUS] Speaker 1: We can try to reduce it a little bit.

00:02:36 [UKR] Speaker 4: I want to stop everything in the evening and see what we've achieved. [UKR] Speaker 1: If he's in a coma, we'll need to do a tracheostomy. [UKR] Speaker 1: - Already agreed for tomorrow. - For tomorrow? Well done.

00:02:50 [UKR] Speaker 3: - How much sedation is there now? - How much sedation is there now?

00:02:55 [UKR] Speaker 3: Fentanyl. [UKR] Speaker 1: Fentanyl. [UKR] Speaker 1: We decided to preserve the level of sedation to check the neurological examination.

00:03:07 Speaker 1: and Anatoly decided to perform tracheostomy tomorrow. Speaker 1: Tracheostomy tomorrow, but this is a very severe trauma.

00:03:19 Speaker 1: It's not will be fast recovery. Speaker 3: How much fentanyl is he getting? Speaker 1: Two millimeters per hour. Speaker 1: Two millimeters per hour. Speaker 3: How many milligrams is that? Speaker 1: How many milligrams is that?

00:03:34 [RUS] Speaker 1: - Need to calculate [RUS] Speaker 4: - Need to calculate [RUS] Speaker 4: - Is that only fentanyl? [RUS] Speaker 4: - Yes, I don't know

00:03:44 [RUS] Speaker 1: - What do you see in the eyes? [RUS] Speaker 3: - It's several millimeters [RUS] Speaker 3: - Maybe

00:03:56 [RUS] Speaker 1: - Now [RUS] Speaker 1: - Now [RUS] Speaker 1: - Now

00:04:04 Speaker 3: - Move it Speaker 3: - Move it Speaker 1: You like pain, pain, yes, yes.

00:04:47 Speaker 3: And everything, blood pressure and everything else is okay?

00:04:51 [RUS] Speaker 1: It's 120, even after your pain, [RUS] Speaker 1: it's good [RUS] Speaker 1: Back to food blood. [RUS] Speaker 1: When we arrived, it was 120. [RUS] Speaker 1: When we started the pain,

00:05:30 [RUS] Speaker 1: sympathy - 130.

00:05:37 Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 1: Yes.

00:05:41 [RUS] Speaker 1: Good. [RUS] Speaker 1: Tracheostomy, you said tomorrow, right?

00:05:51 Speaker 1: Yes.

00:05:52 [RUS] Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, I don't know.

00:06:07 [UKR] Speaker 1: Thank you.

00:06:13 [UKR] Speaker 3: Thank you. [UKR] Speaker 1: And thank you. [UKR] Speaker 1: I'm saying, we have a rule without the head doctor, [UKR] Speaker 1: we can't go look at [UKR] Speaker 1: patients. [UKR] Speaker 1: Where were the explosions? [UKR] Speaker 1: What's known? Where were the explosions? [UKR] Speaker 4: - Explosions. [UKR] Speaker 1: - No, where were the explosions?

00:06:30 [UKR] Speaker 4: - I think nearby. [UKR] Speaker 1: We'll now quickly check on the patient we operated on yesterday, [UKR] Speaker 1: and after that they can set up for an interview.

00:06:58 [RUS] Speaker 1: Translate.

00:07:09 Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 5: It's a much more narrow throw than the coops do. Speaker 5: It's like I find it quite hard to pull on it. Speaker 5: Right. Speaker 5: You can also go for aperture. Speaker 5: I can't make it quick. Speaker 5: Exposure.

00:08:24 Speaker 5: I'm just guessing though. Speaker 5: I mean, like, I just read. Speaker 5: It's like... Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I think there's a book. Speaker 5: And now, like, I said, you know, it's a... Speaker 5: And now, like, I said, you know, it's a... Speaker 5: I said yes, but also... Speaker 5: Right? Speaker 5: and just like kind of just hand it out. Speaker 5: and just like kind of just hand it out.

00:09:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, just like the area. Speaker 5: You're like the thing. Speaker 5: You're like the thing.

00:10:02 [RUS] Speaker 1: Good.

00:10:05 Speaker 1: What we're discussing is we're going to start carrying a Speaker 1: additional camera on it. Speaker 1: Put the lens on it. Speaker 5: And the low-game at times so that we're not as--

00:10:16 Speaker 5: Oh, I see. Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 5: I was discussing you? Speaker 5: I was discussing you? Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 5: We might start-- I think we're going to start carrying Speaker 5: off a second camera, the FX6. Speaker 5: Would you mind carrying that? Speaker 5: We're not going to be able to.

00:10:30 Speaker 5: We're going to be able to hand-to-hand

00:10:32 [RUS] Speaker 5: - Can you show it?

00:11:14 Speaker 1: -

00:11:32 [RUS] Speaker 1: This is responsibility, this information will be sent on time, and all information.

00:11:37 [RUS] Speaker 3: - Very important. - Very important. [RUS] Speaker 1: But we can do a lot of work, but we might not get anything. [RUS] Speaker 1: - Yes, exactly. - Yes? [RUS] Speaker 1: Julia, you don't mind that they're filming this?

00:11:51 Speaker 1: Yes.

00:11:52 [RUS] Speaker 1: They'll show it on American television.

00:11:56 [UKR] Speaker 1: There will be a first prize for best female role.

00:12:01 [RUS] Speaker 1: Yana, you don't mind either? [RUS] Speaker 1: Don't mind. [RUS] Speaker 1: Because I, I even asked this, asked the dove of peace today, [RUS] Speaker 1: you don't mind that I'm photographing? [RUS] Speaker 1: I said, I don't mind. [RUS] Speaker 1: Don't believe it? [RUS] Speaker 3: You to whom? [RUS] Speaker 3: You to whom like that? [RUS] Speaker 1: I came to the operating room, so I asked the Dove of Peace, you don't mind? [RUS] Speaker 1: He says: "No, I don't mind, but I have to fly away". [RUS] Speaker 1: Now we'll go. Cool, right? [RUS] Speaker 1: Where's Rostyslav? [RUS] Speaker 1: Now we'll... [RUS] Speaker 1: Let's call Rostyslav. [RUS] Speaker 1: And you take the medical history and the prescription list for now. [RUS] Speaker 1: Whose? Whose, of the fourth ward. [RUS] Speaker 1: Kyslenko. [RUS] Speaker 1: The daughter came, whose didn't come?

00:12:55 [RUS] Speaker 3: Yes, she was. [RUS] Speaker 3: Yes, she was. [RUS] Speaker 1: She was? [RUS] Speaker 1: She came to work yesterday.

00:13:03 [RUS] Speaker 1: Bon appetit. [RUS] Speaker 1: And the prescription list? [RUS] Speaker 1: Come on, the prescription list.

00:13:12 Speaker 1: I would like to show you Alex. Speaker 1: Did you remember this? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 1: Alex, did you remember what is this?

00:13:27 Speaker 5: Do I remember what that is? Speaker 5: It's a poppy? Speaker 1: What is this? Speaker 5: A flower? Speaker 5: A poppy? Speaker 1: Not only. Speaker 1: Did you remember I gave you... Speaker 5: - The plate? Speaker 1: - Plate, yes. Speaker 5: - The plate? Speaker 1: - No, the plate. Speaker 1: - It's a handmade painting, Petrikivka painting.

00:13:51 Speaker 1: Petrikivka is a village located only 90 kilometers from Dnipro region. Speaker 1: It's one place in the world where this art is created.

00:14:00 Speaker 1: Art is created, it's also heritage of UNESCO.

00:14:07 Speaker 3: - UNESCO heritage. Speaker 1: - Ah, UNESCO Heritage is this. Speaker 1: It's a painting, you can see here. Speaker 1: 1995 years, 1995 years. Speaker 1: And this surname, people who create this painting.

00:14:24 Speaker 1: Logan, you can see here.

00:14:28 Speaker 5: - I think you missed the call by the way, from Ronslop. Speaker 1: - Oh, missed call, yeah.

00:14:39 [RUS] Speaker 1: This one. [RUS] Speaker 1: so beat the dishes I'll get no no whole whole

00:15:37 [UKR] Speaker 1: You don't mind that this is being filmed?

00:15:39 Speaker 3: No.

00:15:40 [UKR] Speaker 1: And they'll show it on TV later.

00:15:41 [RUS] Speaker 3: I would have said right away.

00:15:43 [UKR] Speaker 1: So, you're against it? [UKR] Speaker 1: We have a request from this guy. [UKR] Speaker 1: Alex will show that the sky is above and the wheat below.

00:15:54 [RUS] Speaker 1: Where's our Julia? [RUS] Speaker 1: Where? Fourth ward?

00:16:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: Julia, let's go. [UKR] Speaker 1: Take the prescription list. [UKR] Speaker 1: Let them through. [UKR] Speaker 1: Let them through. [UKR] Speaker 1: Anastasia, quickly.

00:16:11 [RUS] Speaker 1: Let them through. [RUS] Speaker 1: everyone don't rush Julia don't rush and don't rush okay go there we'll [RUS] Speaker 1: go now or leave [RUS] Speaker 1: wait there we'll get an Oscar with you later then we'll share and we like this [RUS] Speaker 1: we'll go around so who goes first Julia 1 Julia 1 and then we all the rest well [RUS] Speaker 1: to the fourth ward to our patient let's see how she feels

00:17:10 [UKR] Speaker 1: We're here at morning time. [UKR] Speaker 1: What's the patient's last name? [UKR] Speaker 2: Kyslenko Viktoria Oleksandrivna. [UKR] Speaker 1: And who are you? [UKR] Speaker 2: I'm her sister.

00:17:17 [RUS] Speaker 1: Really?

00:17:18 [UKR] Speaker 1: We asked her permission for filming, asked permission for filming, and the sisters, they gave permission. [UKR] Speaker 1: We asked her permission for filming, asked permission for filming, and the sisters, they gave permission.

00:17:23 [RUS] Speaker 1: Daughter. [RUS] Speaker 1: Daughter.

00:17:24 [UKR] Speaker 1: And do you give permission? [UKR] Speaker 1: And do you give permission?

00:17:26 [RUS] Speaker 1: I give, of course.

00:17:27 [UKR] Speaker 1: Of course. We operated on her yesterday with an American professor, [UKR] Speaker 1: and today we looked at her CT scan on the first floor, right when the explosions started. [UKR] Speaker 1: Computer for such an operation, it's good, there's still brain swelling.

00:17:48 [UKR] Speaker 1: And we'll check on her now, and then we'll come out and you can ask questions.

00:17:55 [RUS] Speaker 2: Ask.

00:17:57 [UKR] Speaker 2: I'll ask a question, because during the first operation I was there at the time when there was a nasal blood flow. [UKR] Speaker 2: I'll ask a question, because during the first operation I was there at the time when there was a nasal blood flow. [UKR] Speaker 2: It was the third day. [UKR] Speaker 2: And I'm now just... [UKR] Speaker 2: Well, sort of... [UKR] Speaker 2: Well, not that I'm afraid, I just remember that period, it was 20 years ago, when the head was the size of a pillow, and there were big seizures. [UKR] Speaker 2: Well, not that I'm afraid, I just remember that period, it was 20 years ago, when the head was the size of a pillow, and there were big seizures.

00:18:20 [UKR] Speaker 1: That's not her.

00:18:24 [RUS] Speaker 1: Bring it there. [RUS] Speaker 3: There isn't.

00:18:32 [UKR] Speaker 1: How much dexamethasone did we prescribe there?

00:18:34 [RUS] Speaker 1: 8 mg twice? [RUS] Speaker 1: Four. [RUS] Speaker 1: Twice?

00:18:41 [UKR] Speaker 2: I'm just worried, how should I behave?

00:18:44 [RUS] Speaker 2: Just in case there's a repeat.

00:18:46 [UKR] Speaker 1: Look, you're in a department where there's always a nurse and two neurosurgeons on duty. [UKR] Speaker 1: Two neurosurgeons on duty. [UKR] Speaker 1: Rostyslav Ruslanovych will prescribe dexamethasone 4 mg three times a day.

00:19:01 [RUS] Speaker 1: 4 mg three times a day.

00:19:04 [UKR] Speaker 1: Low molecular weight heparin will start from tomorrow, in any case. [UKR] Speaker 1: And we'll see how she's doing. [UKR] Speaker 1: We'll assess the condition now and check again tomorrow. [UKR] Speaker 1: If we don't quite like something, we may tomorrow between the 2nd and 3rd day [UKR] Speaker 1: prescribe a single infusion of Mannitol. [UKR] Speaker 1: Mannitol - 15% 200 ml. [UKR] Speaker 1: It's a hyperosmolar solution that collects a bit. [UKR] Speaker 2: Should I give water, 2 liters, somewhere they said more. [UKR] Speaker 1: 2-2.5 liters. Don't restrict. [UKR] Speaker 1: As much as she wants, as much as she drinks, and the excess fluid will come out with urine. [UKR] Speaker 1: So your task: first, we monitor pressure at least once every 4 hours, write it on paper,

00:19:49 [UKR] Speaker 1: monitor temperature, write it on paper, drink as much water as possible, [UKR] Speaker 1: and try to make her work her legs.

00:20:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: Yes, I always say: gas, brake, gas, brake, gas, brake. [UKR] Speaker 1: Or, when people remember, there was a sewing machine, Singer. [UKR] Speaker 1: Good to remember: 30 minutes passed, did it 30 times. [UKR] Speaker 1: 30 minutes passed, did it 30 times. [UKR] Speaker 1: Why? Prevention of blood clot formation in the legs, [UKR] Speaker 1: because this is very important. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: and fluids so that the brain gets more water.

00:20:30 [UKR] Speaker 2: - Okay, understood. [UKR] Speaker 2: - You'll leave and I can already make her do it.

00:20:36 Speaker 2: - Yes.

00:20:37 [UKR] Speaker 2: - Good. [UKR] Speaker 1: - And I wanted to ask, when are you on duty?

00:20:44 [RUS] Speaker 1: - Tomorrow. [RUS] Speaker 1: - Tomorrow? [RUS] Speaker 1: - Tomorrow? [RUS] Speaker 1: Tomorrow's Friday.

00:20:49 [UKR] Speaker 1: Rostyslav Ruslanovych, on that note, [UKR] Speaker 1: And so he'll be on duty from 8 in the morning Friday until 8 in the morning Saturday and will replace me. [UKR] Speaker 2: - Any questions can be asked, right? - Yes.

00:21:06 [RUS] Speaker 1: Let's take a look. [RUS] Speaker 1: Good afternoon again. - Again. Good afternoon.

00:21:14 [UKR] Speaker 1: You don't mind that we're filming you on camera?

00:21:17 [RUS] Speaker 1: For our descendants you don't mind?

00:21:19 [UKR] Speaker 1: - No. - What's your name?

00:21:22 [RUS] Speaker 1: Viktoria. And patronymic? Oleksandrivna. Viktoria Oleksandrivna. And how old are you? 71. Well, you're still young. I think you can live 90-95 years. I already have two great-grandchildren.

00:21:40 [UKR] Speaker 1: Two great-grandchildren? So, let's start counting, how many children?

00:21:47 [UKR] Speaker 1: One daughter. How many grandchildren? Two. How many? Three. And what are their names?

00:21:56 [UKR] Speaker 3: Anton, Kyrylo and Masha. [UKR] Speaker 1: Anton, Kyrylo and Masha. [UKR] Speaker 1: Good. [UKR] Speaker 1: She started with the great-grandchildren. [UKR] Speaker 1: I said at 71 she'll live to 90, at minimum. [UKR] Speaker 1: She says I already have two great-grandchildren. [UKR] Speaker 1: And what are the great-grandchildren's names? [UKR] Speaker 3: Vitya and Dima.

00:22:17 Speaker 1: What?

00:22:18 [UKR] Speaker 3: Vitya and Dima, they already go to school.

00:22:20 [RUS] Speaker 1: Already go to school?

00:22:22 [UKR] Speaker 1: Well, I wish that you live to see your great-great-grandchildren.

00:22:26 Speaker 1: Right?

00:22:28 [UKR] Speaker 1: Great-great-grandchildren? [UKR] Speaker 1: Good. [UKR] Speaker 1: Logan can go from there, and we can stand here if needed.

00:22:47 [RUS] Speaker 1: No need. [RUS] Speaker 1: Hold. [RUS] Speaker 1: so you're cold that they covered you like that

00:23:07 [UKR] Speaker 1: lift your left arm a bit so well

00:23:14 [RUS] Speaker 1: squeeze me now squeeze squeeze my hand

00:23:19 [UKR] Speaker 1: How do you feel the strength in your hands? Normal? [UKR] Speaker 1: Squeeze harder. [UKR] Speaker 1: Oh, you can break fingers. Strong, strong. [UKR] Speaker 1: Yes, well, where's this hand? Oh, yes, well, squeeze me very strong. [UKR] Speaker 1: Well, okay. And can you smile? Well, cough. [UKR] Speaker 1: Can you smile? [UKR] Speaker 1: Smile. Like this, beauty.

00:23:52 [RUS] Speaker 1: You can put on lipstick, you can paint your eyebrows. [RUS] Speaker 1: She's a woman, but she's entering the history of world cinema. [RUS] Speaker 1: She needs to, but sitting is still too early.

00:24:06 [RUS] Speaker 1: We allow sitting around the third day.

00:24:10 [RUS] Speaker 2: - Can we sit, try to lift?

00:24:13 [UKR] Speaker 1: I'm saying that you can sit not earlier than the third day. [UKR] Speaker 1: And now to make it comfortable for her, you can borrow a pillow for a while, [UKR] Speaker 1: fold a blanket and for the period, especially when she drinks water. [UKR] Speaker 1: And it's there. [UKR] Speaker 1: I think you're not in Ukraine in Ukraine.

00:24:34 [UKR] Speaker 1: You're in Ukraine? [UKR] Speaker 3: This is an electric bed, right?

00:24:41 [UKR] Speaker 2: - And tell me about food, whether to feed or not. - Do you want to eat? [UKR] Speaker 1: - She'll be slim. Slim. - Meaning she doesn't want, the body doesn't need. [UKR] Speaker 1: - Don't force her, the main thing is that she drinks water. Good? - Good. [UKR] Speaker 1: - We drink water, like this can you work your legs?

00:25:04 [UKR] Speaker 1: With your feet up-down, up-down, up-down. Oh, like this we work. Compression stockings are a very cool thing, I'll tell you.

00:25:12 [UKR] Speaker 2: - And that they press, they didn't squeeze at the top, the girls rolled them up a bit, no need. [UKR] Speaker 1: - Maybe straighten them out like this? - Meaning don't worry, they're nothing. [UKR] Speaker 1: - So there are no folds. - So there are no folds, straighten them. [UKR] Speaker 1: I'll tell you that I recently flew to America, 12 hours there and 13 hours back flight, so I bought myself such stockings up to the knee. [UKR] Speaker 1: Took them off, as if nothing happened. [UKR] Speaker 1: Because before that I flew to India, and to India my legs were like logs. [UKR] Speaker 1: Red, painful. And these stockings - this is a cool thing. [UKR] Speaker 1: And slowly work your toes a little, drank water and let her sleep.

00:26:01 [UKR] Speaker 1: Meaning don't load her, let the brain rest. [UKR] Speaker 2: The body doesn't need anything.

00:26:07 [RUS] Speaker 2: And how did it look to you, did it seem good.

00:26:12 [UKR] Speaker 1: Alex, call me: "Alex, did you look at my CT control"? [UKR] Speaker 1: "Did you look at the CT control"?

00:26:20 Speaker 1: "Yes"

00:26:22 [RUS] Speaker 1: I saw your control together with Alex.

00:26:25 [UKR] Speaker 1: We were on the first floor, right when there were explosions, we were looking at your CT scan.

00:26:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: The tumor was completely removed.

00:26:33 [RUS] Speaker 1: "Total removal tumor".

00:26:38 [UKR] Speaker 2: Yesterday there were many prayers for you, and now I want to offer thanksgiving. [UKR] Speaker 1: I'm a religious person, very. [UKR] Speaker 1: For me this is the Dnipro. [UKR] Speaker 1: Prayers were ordered in the cathedrals. [UKR] Speaker 1: How will the prayer be? [UKR] Speaker 2: It will be a thanksgiving prayer. [UKR] Speaker 2: There was a prayer yesterday for your work, and today they'll offer a thanksgiving prayer at the church. [UKR] Speaker 1: Alex Valadka, he has Lithuanian roots.

00:27:11 [UKR] Speaker 1: Alex Valadka, he has Lithuanian roots.

00:27:15 [UKR] Speaker 2: It's very important, we're very pleased that there is...

00:27:19 [UKR] Speaker 1: This is very important, I think.

00:27:30 [RUS] Speaker 2: Doctors are God's messengers.

00:27:33 [UKR] Speaker 2: Because a doctor is God's messenger. [UKR] Speaker 2: So with God's help... [UKR] Speaker 1: God does good things,

00:27:42 [UKR] Speaker 1: through our hands.

00:27:44 Speaker 1: Oh, yes.

00:27:47 [UKR] Speaker 2: So I'm very, you know, [UKR] Speaker 2: very satisfied that the doctor is a believer. [UKR] Speaker 2: A believer, because, you know,

00:27:57 [RUS] Speaker 2: God, in fact, a doctor cannot be like this, it's only God's gift in people.

00:28:02 [RUS] Speaker 2: So, God grant you all health. [RUS] Speaker 1: Anticoagulants, tomorrow not earlier. [RUS] Speaker 1: Drink water and work your legs, the rest of the time sleep, rest.

00:28:12 [UKR] Speaker 1: Good?

00:28:14 [RUS] Speaker 3: - Can she lift her left? [RUS] Speaker 1: - Yes, I'm from Kyiv...

00:28:18 [UKR] Speaker 1: Can you move your right leg, then left?

00:28:22 [RUS] Speaker 1: Right, left, left. [RUS] Speaker 1: Good girl, good girl. [RUS] Speaker 1: Yes? That's normal. [RUS] Speaker 1: Catheter, I think, a day or two let it stay, and then we'll take it out. [RUS] Speaker 2: You don't need to treat it there, I don't need that, no need, I'll tell the girls. [RUS] Speaker 1: Julia, if, I think, it stays until Saturday, nothing will happen? [RUS] Speaker 3: Well, that's it, I'll figure it out. [RUS] Speaker 1: No need to treat anything there.

00:28:45 [RUS] Speaker 1: What else do we have, what questions? [RUS] Speaker 3: There are questions. [RUS] Speaker 1: Monitor pressure, monitor temperature, drink water, work a little with legs, don't force too much.

00:28:53 [RUS] Speaker 2: - Work a little with legs. - Yes, and sleep.

00:28:56 [UKR] Speaker 2: - And drink water, and sleep, and legs.

00:28:58 [RUS] Speaker 1: - Yes, Julia will write so that the nurses come once every 4 hours, [RUS] Speaker 1: measure pressure, and you write on paper here pressure.

00:29:05 [UKR] Speaker 1: That is, for example, 10:00 pressure such and such, temperature such and such.

00:29:11 [RUS] Speaker 1: And another column writes, and drank there 200, 300, 400, 500 ml of water. [RUS] Speaker 2: - Ah, like this, yes, you monitor? - Yes. [RUS] Speaker 2: - Now we've already practically 700 grams. [RUS] Speaker 1: - Well tomorrow morning, Julia will show such a sheet, a chart.

00:29:22 [UKR] Speaker 1: We come in the morning and look, during the day the pressure was like this, the temperature was like this, and you drank there, total up 2 liters, 2,200. [UKR] Speaker 3: Good, good, we'll do it like that.

00:29:36 [UKR] Speaker 3: Good, that's it, high five. [UKR] Speaker 1: We went to continue working. [UKR] Speaker 1: We decided for a long time about your operation, you know, measure seven times, cut once, [UKR] Speaker 1: And we did MRI with contrast, and angiography with contrast.

00:00:00 Speaker 1: above the building.

00:00:00 Speaker 1: above the building. Speaker 1: In the church right ahead

00:00:11 Speaker 1: and the Ukrainian flag. Speaker 2: Andrei, hold here. Speaker 2: We're going to change. Speaker 2: Well, you can do that. Speaker 2: so we can see what you're doing. Speaker 2: so we can see what you're doing. Speaker 2: And while he's doing that, Speaker 2: did you want to turn around Speaker 2: and get this to point it up to it? Speaker 2: Yes. Speaker 2: I don't know if you can get it.

00:00:30 [RUS] Speaker 1: and once again work with the right leg yes and now with the left leg the left leg good good [RUS] Speaker 1: what is your daughter's name natasha natasha natasha natasha natasha by the leg right away to you

00:01:03 [UKR] Speaker 1: I answer, the brain is intact, there is no hemorrhage. [UKR] Speaker 1: I repeat, there is swelling. [UKR] Speaker 1: Swelling means that it may work a bit worse today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, the first 3-4 days. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: For us the most important thing is the level of consciousness. [UKR] Speaker 1: That is, she says her surname, first name, patronymic, knows where she is, [UKR] Speaker 1: knows what her daughter, grandchildren, great-grandchildren are called - the level of consciousness.

00:01:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: Strength in the arms and legs is secondary. The main thing is the level of consciousness - this tells us that her intracranial pressure is normal. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:01:38 [UKR] Speaker 3: Natasha said that she lost blood, right? [UKR] Speaker 1: Yes, we transfused blood. [UKR] Speaker 3: If you need anything, you tell us everything, we'll find donors, all the blood. [UKR] Speaker 1: We anticipated, we reserved blood.

00:01:52 [RUS] Speaker 1: I'll show you everything.

00:01:53 [UKR] Speaker 3: Then everything that's needed, blood.

00:01:55 [RUS] Speaker 1: I'll show everything. [RUS] Speaker 1: For tomorrow it was necessary to make a reserve of blood and plasma, platelets, pre-medication 10 to 0. [RUS] Speaker 1: That is, I expected there would be bleeding. [RUS] Speaker 1: I was talking about plasma transfusion, because this is a very hypervascular tumor, but we work very quickly, we save a lot of blood.

00:02:26 [UKR] Speaker 3: Very quickly, but very safely.

00:02:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: We're under the microscope, under the large one, [UKR] Speaker 1: he was observing from a distance, because he says:

00:02:36 Speaker 1: "in USA, if you surgery operate slowly",

00:02:39 [UKR] Speaker 1: that slowly, they lose a lot of blood. [UKR] Speaker 3: - Did you remove even from those places where it was? - Yes. [UKR] Speaker 3: - Get well. [UKR] Speaker 3: - Thank you.

00:02:54 [RUS] Speaker 3: Let's go.

00:03:00 [RUS] Speaker 1: Yes, recommendations. [RUS] Speaker 1: Now we will sit down. [RUS] Speaker 1: When we start preparing for the interview, [RUS] Speaker 1: maybe two patients [RUS] Speaker 1: there will be time for consultation. [RUS] Speaker 1: Let's go, Oleg.

00:03:30 [RUS] Speaker 1: good job well done [RUS] Speaker 1: We'll have time to consult two people. [RUS] Speaker 1: Who's there in the queue? [RUS] Speaker 1: I'll call them now.

00:04:02 [RUS] Speaker 1: No, at 3 o'clock we have another small conference there too.

00:04:06 [RUS] Speaker 3: Now I'll go to the bathroom and come back.

00:04:16 Speaker 1: I am going to the bathroom and come back. Speaker 3: Yeah, I will. Speaker 3: Yeah, I will. Speaker 3: Yeah, I will.

00:04:55 Speaker 3: so

00:05:48 [RUS] Speaker 3: [DELETED]

00:05:59 Speaker 1: Tjau!

00:06:50 [UKR] Speaker 4: You

00:07:21 [UKR] Speaker 1: 71 years old.

00:07:50 [UKR] Speaker 5: Thank you. What should I say, for them to come in? [UKR] Speaker 1: For a consultation, yes, they shouldn't film, right?

00:07:56 [UKR] Speaker 5: Now I'll understand whether they will or won't, because they went for the camera.

00:00:00 Can you hand him this and have him trade out his mic? Speaker 1: Can you hand him this and have him trade out his mic?

00:00:09 Speaker 1: I'm gonna switch your hedgehogs. Speaker 2: Do you want to trade the one that he's wearing, right? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 2: Thank you. Speaker 2: He's got one on his desk here. Speaker 2: Do you want this too? Speaker 2: Sure. Speaker 2: Is it rolling now? Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still rolling, right? Speaker 1: I'll have it hidden wherever it was behind the soldiers.

00:00:33 Speaker 1: Is that where it was? Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Speaker 1: I had it facing the microphone earlier, or not the mic, the speaker from his... Speaker 3: It's not right. Speaker 1: Alright guys, we have 40 minutes to get out of this interview.

00:00:51 Speaker 2: Alright, let's go.

00:01:05 [RUS] Speaker 3: Vasylina, Vasylina [RUS] Speaker 3: Please close the door so people don't break in, just close the doors and I'll open them later.

00:02:08 [RUS] Speaker 3: You look like pilots of a spaceship.

00:02:23 Speaker 4: And since you have a beginning Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 1: The life on the farm. Speaker 4: Hello. Speaker 1: Hello. Speaker 4: And do you do this or can I go back to the other boxes? Speaker 4: And do you do this or can I go back to the other boxes? Speaker 4: And do you do this or can I go back to the other boxes? Speaker 2: You can figure out the same boxes. Speaker 1: And you, yeah. Speaker 1: If you need to come in and get these, please do.

00:03:16 Speaker 3: My hedgehog is a leaf. Speaker 3: He is.

00:03:30 [RUS] Speaker 3: We closed it on purpose. [RUS] Speaker 3: What does Laura want? [RUS] Speaker 3: And she won't be here? [RUS] Speaker 3: I just specifically asked to be locked in.

00:03:46 [UKR] Speaker 3: She has the keys, right? [UKR] Speaker 3: Yes, she does. [UKR] Speaker 3: And does she know which keys for the lock? The bottom one or the top one? [UKR] Speaker 4: She needs to try two and try this one.

00:03:56 [UKR] Speaker 4: So I'm working, because you don't know what you can know about what she should try.

00:04:04 [UKR] Speaker 2: Does she need to go out?

00:04:06 [RUS] Speaker 1: She needs to try to keep it.

00:04:10 [UKR] Speaker 4: She needs to try to keep it if she works out.

00:04:15 [RUS] Speaker 4: Lock it from the top.

00:04:19 [UKR] Speaker 3: Now we'll lock ourselves in and won't get out. [UKR] Speaker 3: Quiet, quiet, don't use force.

00:04:49 [UKR] Speaker 3: Yes, close it, close it, let her call you later or text you, because...

00:05:10 Speaker 1: Okay, but we need a bounce. Speaker 1: She's coming back with a bounce. Speaker 1: Did she have a headset on? Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, so... Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, so... Speaker 1: If she didn't have a headset on, she doesn't know we need a bounce. Speaker 2: It's okay, then. Speaker 4: We need a back in front of her. Speaker 1: She's right here. Speaker 1: Ask her if the bounce is here. Speaker 1: If it's not close, we should just go.

00:05:38 Speaker 1: No, no, if it's not close, don't worry about it. We're good.

00:05:55 Speaker 4: Okay. Speaker 1: Yeah, and Andri, not that we've been doing this before, but can you do a clap in front of your face?

00:06:04 [UKR] Speaker 4: - Yes. - So you can ask about the sound at the beginning.

00:06:11 [UKR] Speaker 4: Let's ask you to start with how you grew up, where you grew up, what your childhood was like. [UKR] Speaker 3: - I was born in the city of Verkhnodniprovsk, it's in Dnipropetrovsk region, [UKR] Speaker 3: it's 90 kilometers from Dnipro, where I now work and live with my family. [UKR] Speaker 3: Hryhorii was a zootechnician and managed a large poultry farm. [UKR] Speaker 3: My mother, unfortunately, she has been gone for many years. [UKR] Speaker 3: She was a librarian. [UKR] Speaker 3: Father's name is Hryhorii, mother Tetiana. [UKR] Speaker 3: What did this give me? [UKR] Speaker 3: Mother worked as a librarian. [UKR] Speaker 3: I never had a shortage of books.

00:07:00 [RUS] Speaker 3: I always had many books, I read a lot.

00:07:04 [UKR] Speaker 3: Now there's the internet, now you can find anything on the internet, very quickly. [UKR] Speaker 3: But at the time when I was born, it was very important for me to receive information. [UKR] Speaker 3: At the same time, my father, who constantly communicated at work, [UKR] Speaker 3: with living beings, you could say, with birds. [UKR] Speaker 3: And at home he loved to raise many different types of animals. [UKR] Speaker 3: These were cows, and sheep, and even pigs, and chickens, and geese, and ducks. [UKR] Speaker 3: This instilled in me a love for all living things. [UKR] Speaker 3: That is, I understood how a living organism functions. [UKR] Speaker 3: On one hand, mother gave me the opportunity to receive knowledge in the best way at that time,

00:07:49 [UKR] Speaker 3: Father instilled a love for living things. [UKR] Speaker 3: I'll say this, that I performed my first operation while I was still a schoolboy. [UKR] Speaker 3: We raised rabbits, and one rabbit, a weasel, it's such a predatory animal, [UKR] Speaker 3: It wanted to get it from the cage and with its claw tore open its side, [UKR] Speaker 3: the skin on its upper, lower legs split to both sides and you could see its body. [UKR] Speaker 3: I then took a needle and thread, stitched it up, well and it survived and lived the longest, [UKR] Speaker 3: because we kept it as such a talisman, so that's the situation.

00:08:34 [UKR] Speaker 3: Unfortunately, mother has been gone for 14 years, but father is alive, everything is good, he's active and continues to work the farm.

00:08:43 [UKR] Speaker 3: I believe this is his secret to longevity, because he works from 5 in the morning until late evening, but he is, as they say, full of life, and he infects everyone around with his energy.

00:08:56 [UKR] Speaker 4: You probably got this industriousness from him and all the time?

00:09:00 [UKR] Speaker 3: Yes, first of all it's really genes on one hand, and on the other it's upbringing.

00:09:08 [UKR] Speaker 3: They instilled a respectful, good attitude towards people, respect for elders and love for all living things.

00:09:18 [UKR] Speaker 4: - At what age did you come to study? [UKR] Speaker 3: When I was studying in high school in the city of Verkhnodniprovsk, what I liked more were the subjects, first of all biology, first botany, then biology, geography, I liked physics, I participated in school olympiads, even competed in all-Ukrainian olympiads in biology, [UKR] Speaker 3: and traveled around Ukraine, participated. And when I finished school, I graduated with a gold medal, [UKR] Speaker 3: the question arose, where I would go next, what I would become. The easiest was, we went to Dnipro University,

00:10:08 [UKR] Speaker 3: considering that I had a gold medal, and also had victories in regional olympiads in biology, [UKR] Speaker 3: You can enroll without exams in the ecological faculty of Dnipropetrovsk Medical University. [UKR] Speaker 3: Father says, I already agreed, we submit documents, and after lunch you'll be enrolled, and you'll study here. [UKR] Speaker 3: And I say, no, I'll still, probably, be a doctor. So let's go, it was still called Dnipropetrovsk Medical Institute then, we submit documents, and I'm preparing to take exams. [UKR] Speaker 3: The exams, as I remember now, Ukrainian language, there was biology and physics.

00:10:54 [UKR] Speaker 3: What I loved in school, exactly what I needed. [UKR] Speaker 3: And I was admitted to the first year of the medical faculty. [UKR] Speaker 3: It was 1992. [UKR] Speaker 3: This was exactly the first year after Ukraine gained independence, [UKR] Speaker 3: The Act of Independence. And I entered the first subgroup, and this subgroup was Ukrainian. [UKR] Speaker 3: This was from our entire large cohort. The first Ukrainian was a subgroup in which students studied in the Ukrainian language. [UKR] Speaker 3: Most of them were more from western regions of Ukraine. [UKR] Speaker 3: But thanks to the fact that I got into this subgroup, I later met my future wife Tetiana.

00:11:42 [UKR] Speaker 3: She is also named, as my mother was named. [UKR] Speaker 3: And I entered this medical institute, then it became an academy, then became a medical university. [UKR] Speaker 3: Actually it's a strong university, where we received knowledge.

00:12:00 [UKR] Speaker 3: And I graduated from this university with a red diploma and was even entered into the golden book of the medical academy. [UKR] Speaker 3: I love jokes, especially during war, it helps us survive, so I say, [UKR] Speaker 3: entered in the red book, like the red book for animals, for plants, as an endangered species. [UKR] Speaker 3: And what does this, they say, contribute to? [UKR] Speaker 3: So that there would be generations, so there would be reproduction, so there would be children, so there would be descendants, so they would follow. [UKR] Speaker 3: So it's such a joke, but actually I'm really proud, and I think the children are already proud, grandchildren will be proud,

00:12:54 [UKR] Speaker 3: that their grandfather was so legendary, that he's even in the golden book of the medical academy, [UKR] Speaker 3: medical university written down, and I'm there with four or five people out of 500-600 people recorded. [UKR] Speaker 3: Really now when you look at it, it was many years ago. [UKR] Speaker 3: But then, when I was already finishing the academy, the question arose, what I would become next. I first wanted to be an oncologist, to treat oncological diseases, a general oncologist. [UKR] Speaker 3: These are tumors of the lungs, tumors of the intestines, melanomas, malignant tumors, an oncologist.

00:13:45 [UKR] Speaker 3: Then I wanted to be a neurologist, but my father-in-law said: Andriy, neurology is somehow not a manly profession. [UKR] Speaker 3: Maybe you'll be some kind of surgeon, because neurologists, well what do they do, they read books, prescribe medications and don't understand whether a person got better from the fact that they recovered on their own, or from the fact that medications were prescribed. [UKR] Speaker 3: So if you'll be a surgeon, this is a manly specialty, and you'll see the results of your work. [UKR] Speaker 3: And I decided to be a neurosurgeon. [UKR] Speaker 3: And I'll say more, that oncology didn't leave me, because my specialization in neurosurgery has two directions. [UKR] Speaker 3: This is neurotraumatology, these are injuries to the central nervous system, and this is neurooncology, these are brain tumors.

00:14:36 [UKR] Speaker 3: And my dream, that I wanted to be a neurologist, to study the brain and be an oncologist, it came true. [UKR] Speaker 3: And I was lucky at the time, that I again got into a good university, institute to study, received such basic strong knowledge. [UKR] Speaker 3: Then I had good teachers. My teachers, professor, first of all, Mosiichuk Mykola Markovych, he is the founder of the neurosurgical school of our region. [UKR] Speaker 3: And then I studied under Professor Zorin Mykola Oleksandrovych. I'll say this, that again, that I'm proud that in the history of Dnipropetrovsk neurosurgery at the moment there are four professors that I know. [UKR] Speaker 3: This was the late Professor Musychuk Mykola Markovych, Professor Soliunyi Vadym Ivanovych,

00:15:25 [UKR] Speaker 3: Professor Zorin Mykola Oleksandrovych, he's alive, healthy, and I wish him many years of such full life and work. [UKR] Speaker 3: Well and the fourth – this is Professor Sirko Andriy Hryhorovych, that is, me. [UKR] Speaker 3: That is, I'm proud that I am a continuer of such a dynasty, glorious neurosurgeons, scientists,

00:15:45 [UKR] Speaker 3: I already have my own school, my students. This really inspires me. [UKR] Speaker 4: Returning to the moment of your admission, you said then that your father told you: "I already enrolled you here", and you said: "No, I'll probably go into medicine".

00:16:02 [UKR] Speaker 4: What was that then? Why did you say that? Why did you want that? [UKR] Speaker 3: I never in life look for the easy path, I never choose what's simpler. [UKR] Speaker 3: I thought, ecological faculty, that I'll go around checking pollution of these rivers, air. [UKR] Speaker 3: Somehow it was uninteresting, but this desire to help people remained in me. [UKR] Speaker 3: I decided, despite the fact that I needed to take exams, that then there was really big competition for one place, there were many who wanted it, it was not easy to enter this exam, [UKR] Speaker 3: so I decided that I would choose after all not what's simpler, but what lies close to my soul, despite the fact that I needed to pass more difficult exams.

00:16:58 [UKR] Speaker 3: I'm satisfied and never once in life regretted that I decided to be a doctor.

00:17:21 Speaker 3: Maybe need to say surname, name, Logan.

00:17:51 Speaker 4: Okay, let's continue. Speaker 1: Yep. Speaker 4: So we talked about Andre's childhood growing out. Speaker 1: Can you sit down? Speaker 1: Well, I guess I can see this monitor. Speaker 1: What else might I need? Speaker 1: All right, I'll sit down.

00:18:09 Speaker 4: And how he started university, why medicine, and how he got to neurosurgery.

00:18:16 Speaker 4: What else do you want to know? Speaker 1: And you're going to answer her, so you're looking at the correct side. Speaker 1: Talk to me about, to have him talk to you about growing up in the Soviet Union,

00:18:34 Speaker 1: maybe not even dreaming of a country of his own, but just the idea of it and then being able to have one and what it's meant and what it means.

00:18:48 [RUS] Speaker 4: Let's return to the question about the Soviet Union.

00:18:51 [UKR] Speaker 4: Yesterday he was asking you. [UKR] Speaker 4: What was it like, growing up during the Soviet Union and thinking or not thinking, dreaming or not, [UKR] Speaker 4: about the fact that Ukraine could be an independent separate country? [UKR] Speaker 4: Can you tell about that time? Were there any such thoughts, desires?

00:19:10 [UKR] Speaker 4: And what was it like when Ukraine became independent? [UKR] Speaker 3: This is quite a difficult question, because it was, when it became independent, in '91. [UKR] Speaker 3: First, when we lived in the Soviet Union, there was ideology, communist ideology. [UKR] Speaker 3: And I caught still the fact that I was first an Octobrist, wore a star, then I was a Pioneer, [UKR] Speaker 3: I wore a Pioneer tie. Then I was a Komsomol member, I was even the Komsomol organizer of the school, high school number one of the city of Verkhnodniprovsk. [UKR] Speaker 3: I was the school's Komsomol organizer, even went to this camp for training Komsomol workers.

00:19:56 [UKR] Speaker 3: This was such, you must understand, propaganda always existed and it was very serious then. [UKR] Speaker 3: What did I want then? What could I do? I organized competitions there for schoolchildren, as Komsomol organizer in arm wrestling, competitions, come on boys, participated myself. [UKR] Speaker 3: And then it all collapsed on me. [UKR] Speaker 3: That is, I was the last Komsomol organizer of the school, on whom it all collapsed. [UKR] Speaker 3: And when Ukraine became independent, I was already more mature then, [UKR] Speaker 3: and I began to become interested in the history of Ukraine. [UKR] Speaker 3: More at that moment, especially when I was preparing for the exam in Ukrainian history.

00:20:42 [UKR] Speaker 3: This was in grades 10-11, I was studying history thoroughly. [UKR] Speaker 3: Not only those books that they gave us in school, but which were edited under the Soviets, written what they wanted to hear. [UKR] Speaker 3: But I already began reading books on Ukrainian history that were not recommended during school study. [UKR] Speaker 3: And then I began searching for information about Ivan Sirko, about Cossacks, and I got interested in the Zaporizhian Sich. [UKR] Speaker 3: It really resonated with me then, I truly felt, as they say now, the concept of identity. [UKR] Speaker 3: Identity, that I was really more attracted to and liked more the fact that Ukraine specifically, that we are an independent, sovereign state, that we have our own language.

00:21:37 [UKR] Speaker 3: We must preserve all this, preserve and on the contrary spread it, multiply it. [UKR] Speaker 3: So my parents instilled the Ukrainian language in me, despite the fact that I said that the majority were Russian-speaking, [UKR] Speaker 3: but somehow I had pride, when I was still studying at the institute to speak Ukrainian, and this was such pride for us. [UKR] Speaker 3: And I'll say more, that when something is forbidden, you want it even more. [UKR] Speaker 3: And when I saw that Ukraine, thanks to the fact that we're going our own way, [UKR] Speaker 3: which differs from the one they constantly push us towards, [UKR] Speaker 3: on this path, we're going a completely different way.

00:22:25 [UKR] Speaker 3: And for this they hate us, for this they want to punish us, for this they want to kill us. [UKR] Speaker 3: And I'll say more, that I'm proud that my son Bohdan, he really somehow then we had the "Svoboda" party, [UKR] Speaker 3: He communicated with guys who were from Svoboda. [UKR] Speaker 3: When there were events under Yanukovych, when there were these events near our regional council,

00:23:02 [RUS] Speaker 3: I'll say that Bohdan was there too.

00:23:07 [UKR] Speaker 3: Police came to our home with searches. [UKR] Speaker 3: And it was very, I'll say, that at that time I was at work, my wife called and said that many policemen came who want to conduct searches at our home, looking for this literature, Ukrainian literature, patriotic literature. [UKR] Speaker 3: and possibly want to pin some accusations of participating in some riots, possibly terrorist acts. [UKR] Speaker 3: I said then, wait don't open the doors. [UKR] Speaker 3: I called my friends, they're such big guys, bigger than me, friends, [UKR] Speaker 3: and I say, I need your help, because I won't get home quickly,

00:23:55 [UKR] Speaker 3: and you must help. And they really came and followed the policemen around the rooms, so they wouldn't plant anything, so they wouldn't take him to prison later. [UKR] Speaker 3: My wife and I really had to go through it. They turned everything upside down, took laptops, took patriotic literature, [UKR] Speaker 3: that was at home. And it really was. And we worried for his life, for his freedom. [UKR] Speaker 3: Although he didn't do anything criminal, he only defended, just like most people at Maidan then, [UKR] Speaker 3: but this was Maidan not in Kyiv, this was in Dnipropetrovsk near our regional state administration. [UKR] Speaker 3: I don't remember, after how many weeks we invited my relative, he's a lawyer,

00:24:44 [UKR] Speaker 3: We went with the lawyer to return back both the laptop and return these Ukrainian books. [UKR] Speaker 3: They stand now in his office, where Sviatoslav is now located. [UKR] Speaker 3: And therefore I'm really proud that my children have such an orientation. [UKR] Speaker 3: And I'm proud that Bohdan grew up in this Cossack camp, and he knows all these traditions, and he preserves them. [UKR] Speaker 3: And this is really such patriotism that's not for show. It comes from within, from the desire to remain a free person, [UKR] Speaker 3: liberated, a free person. And he also doesn't look for easy paths. I offered him several times: [UKR] Speaker 3: "Come to the department, work in neurosurgery". He says: "No, I don't want to work in neurosurgery,

00:25:31 [UKR] Speaker 3: I'll be specifically in the emergency department, where the most severe patients arrive, the most severely wounded, I'll operate on them". [UKR] Speaker 3: And I'll say more, even when he was an intern, he said, I want closer to The Zero Line. And he went to military hospitals, he went to forward surgical groups, stabilization points. [UKR] Speaker 3: And we prayed to God that everything would be fine with him, he helped surgeons, helped traumatologists.

00:26:00 [UKR] Speaker 3: And the most interesting thing, he sends photos from the operating room, here I'm operating with neurosurgeons, surgeons. [UKR] Speaker 3: And then 2-3 days later he sends a video, the guys send him. [UKR] Speaker 3: After he left from there before New Year, a rocket, a bomb flew nearby, exploded and the windows. [UKR] Speaker 3: Thank God, people remained alive, but in that operating room where he was 2-3 days ago, in the mobile hospital, it was destroyed. [UKR] Speaker 3: That's the situation. So you can't tell it in one sentence, even one paragraph. [UKR] Speaker 3: This was still from parents. Parents taught love for the native land, and possibly, some roots were passed down, genes from that legendary Ivan Dmytrovych Sirko,

00:26:47 [UKR] Speaker 3: born in 1612, were passed down, and it, for example, is preserved in me and continues in my children, [UKR] Speaker 3: both in the older one and in the younger one, both in the Cossack camp, studying how to work with a saber, [UKR] Speaker 3: studying how to ride horses, in boats, how to heal yourself and others with the help of herbs. [UKR] Speaker 3: They learn to play the kobza, instruments and sing Ukrainian songs. [UKR] Speaker 3: And there was a question, is it possible to go to the camp to film everything. Earlier this was possible. [UKR] Speaker 3: And now the Kosh Ataman worries about the safety of children. [UKR] Speaker 3: He says: "I would gladly, but first our camp was set up on a hill, it's clearly visible, from afar".

00:27:36 [UKR] Speaker 3: Now we removed all this and hid it in the forest, so no one can find it. [UKR] Speaker 3: Because we worry that you see drones, missiles, someone will give information that there are not children there, but there are military personnel, for example, soldiers who are preparing for rotation, drones will fly in and kill children. [UKR] Speaker 3: So there was a big desire to show this camp, it's really beautiful, but it's better not to do it. [UKR] Speaker 3: When we brought Sviatoslav, we arrived, there were many young deer, more than 30-40 of them, they were on the hill calmly located. [UKR] Speaker 3: It's like in Askania-Nova, such nature. [UKR] Speaker 3: And tonight we spent from 4 to 6 in the morning in the basement, I said that I'm grateful to God that at this time Sviatoslav was not with us.

00:28:38 [UKR] Speaker 3: Because for him this is the most difficult. If you see alarms, if you see that drones, missiles are flying, he can no longer fall asleep.

00:28:47 [UKR] Speaker 3: And this is very hard on his psyche.

00:28:55 [UKR] Speaker 4: Why was it always important to you with Bohdan and Sviatoslav that they grew up knowing traditions and went to these Cossack camps? Why is this important? [UKR] Speaker 3: This comes more not from me, it comes from them themselves, it's their desire. [UKR] Speaker 3: They want, maybe this was passed down through genes, but I didn't say that you'll go specifically to this camp. [UKR] Speaker 3: You could say that Bohdan first started taekwondo, for a long time, and was constantly on trips. [UKR] Speaker 3: Earlier they went to Crimea, and in winter they went to the mountains there, to the Carpathians.

00:29:44 [UKR] Speaker 3: And he was always so active. And he once got into this camp, he liked it so much that he says: [UKR] Speaker 3: "I'm staying for another term, for another term". And he spent every summer, one, two, three trips there.

00:00:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: how's the ataman, he already came and took care of the little ones, he was the ataman, he was the head,

00:00:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: how's the ataman, he already came and took care of the little ones, he was the ataman, he was the head, [UKR] Speaker 1: he was the elder on the boats, there was climbing on such a net, he was the elder. [UKR] Speaker 1: I can tell one story, which happened, when he was the ataman, he calls me, says: [UKR] Speaker 1: I say: "Dad, did a patient named Berdnyk come to you?" [UKR] Speaker 1: I say: "No, I operated on an unknown person." [UKR] Speaker 1: And he says: "Because our assistant ataman's son was at war, he fought and he came to you." [UKR] Speaker 1: I say: "Let me ask, is he red-haired, with a beard?"

00:00:52 [UKR] Speaker 1: I say: "You know what I'll tell you? This is an extremely severe injury. He's in deep coma, coma grade 2. He probably won't survive. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: But I operated until late at night and did everything necessary." [UKR] Speaker 1: He says: "Yes, that's my assistant ataman's son. Do everything you can." [UKR] Speaker 1: And slowly he recovered, he recovered well. [UKR] Speaker 1: I remember, this assistant came, Mykola Berdnyk, [UKR] Speaker 1: and he came and says: "I brought you a gift."

00:01:25 [RUS] Speaker 1: I say: "What kind of gift?"

00:01:26 [UKR] Speaker 1: And he takes out such a three-liter jar of honey and says: "This is for you." [UKR] Speaker 1: "This jar of honey is for you."

00:01:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: And he recovered well, unfortunately, from coronavirus and pneumonia he died. [UKR] Speaker 1: But at that time we gave him the opportunity to live, [UKR] Speaker 1: And we became friends with families, even those people we saved. They stayed longer for treatment with us. [UKR] Speaker 1: Now there's no such possibility. We have to operate, stabilize, do the surgery. [UKR] Speaker 1: We have to evacuate these people so there are places to receive new ones. But before there was the possibility to treat them. [UKR] Speaker 1: Before, my wife Tetyana made cabbage pies, potato pies. [UKR] Speaker 1: They came with Sviatoslav, we went into the wards and treated wounded fighters, their relatives.

00:02:16 [UKR] Speaker 1: Many friends remained on my Facebook, who congratulate, there's birthdays, various holidays. [UKR] Speaker 1: We became friends. [UKR] Speaker 1: We were friends for a long time with the Berdnyk family, now I see Mykola Berdnyk is traveling.

00:02:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: Really, it's like this, you can't say that I said that you should teach this.

00:02:35 [UKR] Speaker 1: No, this came from somewhere inside them, and I just watch and am proud.

00:02:42 [UKR] Speaker 2: At three o'clock you should start a conversation with Alex, right?

00:02:47 [UKR] Speaker 1: It can be short, it can be 10-15 minutes, if needed we can continue.

00:02:52 Speaker 2: - Good. Speaker 1: - Yeah. Speaker 2: - So, can you say, you need to start at-- Speaker 1: - At 3:00 PM, it may be 10, 15 minutes. Speaker 1: - Yeah, yeah. Speaker 1: - And after that, we can continue, continue. Speaker 3: - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaker 3: So, keep going. Speaker 3: I mean, I have something next, but go ahead. Speaker 2: - We have done this. Speaker 2: The question I had, what else do you wanna ask?

00:03:17 Speaker 3: - Why neurosurgery? Speaker 3: Do you have a, Speaker 3: Is medicine in your family? Speaker 3: Are you the first doctor? Speaker 3: Are you the most advanced degree of any of his upward relatives?

00:03:33 Speaker 2: Can you explain a bit how he chose a neurosurgery, but I cannot see if there are any other doctors

00:03:40 Speaker 2: in the family? Speaker 3: Yeah, ask him that.

00:03:42 [UKR] Speaker 3: and tell us about this [UKR] Speaker 1: She lived in Novopokrovka, and she treated not only in her village, but all the surrounding villages. [UKR] Speaker 1: If a person has a dislocation of some joint on the arm, on the leg, everyone went to Grandma Kateryna, [UKR] Speaker 1: and there was a line, because they could reset joint dislocations.

00:04:32 [UKR] Speaker 1: She had such thin hands, she herself raised four children, because her husband died early. [UKR] Speaker 1: but with these hands she could reset any joint dislocations. My uncle was a veterinarian, also her son, who treated everyone around, [UKR] Speaker 1: But there was no traditional medicine in the family. There were bone-setters, more folk medicine like that, there were veterinarians, but I was the first who became a traditional physician. [UKR] Speaker 1: But now in the family I'm a doctor, my wife is a doctor, and Bohdan - this is the first possible generation after us of doctors, a neurosurgeon.

00:05:23 [UKR] Speaker 1: We ask Sviatoslav, what kind of doctor will you be? [UKR] Speaker 1: will you be a neurosurgeon, and he says: "No, I'll be a traumatologist."

00:05:28 [RUS] Speaker 1: Well, life will show.

00:05:32 [UKR] Speaker 1: Regarding what I showed and told yesterday, really, [UKR] Speaker 1: as I said about my teachers, Professor Mosiychuk, Zorin Mykola Oleksandrovych, [UKR] Speaker 1: we learned a lot from them, and this is old, [UKR] Speaker 1: what was passed from generation to generation, for example, wax. [UKR] Speaker 1: Only recently with humanitarian aid we received wax, which is synthetic wax, it's packaged, sterile wax, humanitarian aid from the USA from our friends Rock Armonda, Alexis Latka. [UKR] Speaker 1: But before this we used beeswax for a long time. [UKR] Speaker 1: When interns come, I joke, I say: we have special neurosurgical bees.

00:06:17 [UKR] Speaker 1: Exactly these bees, these are very rare bees that produce neurosurgical wax, [UKR] Speaker 1: which we can use during surgical intervention. [UKR] Speaker 1: When the wax runs out, not only in our operating room, in the orthopedic operating room, in other operating rooms, [UKR] Speaker 1: I call my father and say: "Do you have wax?" [UKR] Speaker 1: And he melts such pieces of wax. [UKR] Speaker 1: "How much do you need?" - "About half a kilogram." [UKR] Speaker 1: And so half a kilogram is transported, we cut it into three parts: [UKR] Speaker 1: gave to one, gave to another, gave to a third. [UKR] Speaker 1: And our girls, I say, from generation to generation, the recipe is passed, [UKR] Speaker 1: how to mix this wax with oil, boil it during, sterilize it. [UKR] Speaker 1: and it's better even than synthetic wax that's brought from abroad.

00:07:03 [UKR] Speaker 1: This wax is used exclusively for one purpose - to stop bleeding from bone. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: For example, if we take this skull and make a cut,

00:07:23 [RUS] Speaker 1: then here are the diploic veins,

00:07:27 [UKR] Speaker 1: which bleed, not with coagulation, not with other materials we cannot stop it, we need to rub this wax in, it's sterile wax, but indeed it's produced by ordinary bees. [UKR] Speaker 1: We were on an excursion on Sunday late in the evening, it was already dark, with Alex Vladka at our rest place on the Dnipro. [UKR] Speaker 1: There was such a hut, there's an interesting sign "Apiary Sirko". [UKR] Speaker 1: Apiary Sirko I showed to Alex Vladka, and they showed us 5 hives that were just made, bees didn't live there, [UKR] Speaker 1: and showed hives in which bees lived 100 years ago.

00:08:16 [UKR] Speaker 1: So really, there's nothing accidental, that's why somehow Sirko deals with bees, [UKR] Speaker 1: my father deals with these bees, when I was in school, I also dealt with them and know, [UKR] Speaker 1: how to breed these bees. I had small hives where they planted the queen, and there she began to give brood. [UKR] Speaker 1: And when it already multiplied, then we expanded to larger hives. [UKR] Speaker 1: And now I just use this wax from Apiary Sirko, only not Ivan Sirko, but Hryhoriy, my father, and it's used in neurosurgery. [UKR] Speaker 1: I think this won't be very long and we'll continue, because I have shrapnel that needs to be shown.

00:09:42 Speaker 1: Alex, that's it. Speaker 4: Just set this on a chair please, thank you.

00:10:49 Speaker 4: Thank you.

00:11:09 [RUS] Speaker 4: To be continued...

00:11:39 [RUS] Speaker 4: To be continued...

00:11:53 Speaker 5: We have two presentations together with Alex in our Ukrainian conference for military surgeons and Speaker 1: military anesthesiologists. And Konstantin Humeniuk led this symposium, led this meeting,

00:12:13 Speaker 1: hold this meeting, and we have two presentations. Yeah, Alex?

00:12:18 [UKR] Speaker 6: The idea was a great division of 30 requirements!

00:12:49 Speaker 7: I'm honored to know you, our best doctors.

00:12:55 Speaker 7: Yesterday I talked to Dr. Humaniuk also. Speaker 1: Yes, and we spent this night, the second part of this night, in the shelter underground, Speaker 1: I am at my home house and Alex near his hotel because a lot of drones maybe 550

00:13:20 Speaker 1: 650 drones and 50 missiles and 50 missiles covered in Ukraine yes Speaker 7: This winter will be very difficult, but we are strong. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:13:33 Speaker 7: We should hope that we will overcome all these difficulties. Speaker 6: I don't know if you guys can see that. Speaker 6: That's the map of all the drones and missiles last night.

00:13:43 Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw this. Speaker 7: Yes, photos. Speaker 7: No comments. Speaker 7: Our life is terrible now. Speaker 1: Yes, Baruch, now we'd like to hear information from you about interim data analysis here.

00:14:01 Speaker 8: So, the main reason why I wanted to talk with you is data is always, as usually, not very clear. Speaker 8: And I wanted to get your thoughts about how to continue, how to present, what to do with the data. Speaker 8: so it's just work in progress so so the first part where I wanted to look was at Speaker 8: the time I did the time analysis because that was John Holcomb wanted us to focus Speaker 8: on so this is the numbers for the center in Dnepro and

00:14:51 Speaker 8: Not surprisingly, I did not expect to see any impact because the times that were already at the baseline phase were extremely, extremely fast. It was 20 minutes, which was, I think, better than most American hospitals.

00:15:14 Speaker 6: So, Baruch, can you step back a little bit? What exactly are we looking at here? This is the time from, well, go ahead.

00:15:23 Speaker 8: From admission until CT scan. Speaker 6: Admission to CT scan. Speaker 1: Median 20 minutes phase and 20 minutes device phase. No difference between this. We expect these results.

00:15:38 Speaker 1: it's a yeah exactly because it's our daily routine practice perform CT as soon as possible Speaker 8: yes it's true Ukrainian hospitals are too good yeah thank you David I'm not sure about why that means Speaker 8: is uh is a little longer uh maybe the time of using infrascanner x made the time between

00:16:09 Speaker 8: admission to ct a little longer maybe it's just statistical variation so i didn't do any Speaker 6: statistical analysis on that is that significant or not well the standard deviation is really high

00:16:21 Speaker 6: on that also so there must have been a few outliers for whatever reason Speaker 8: had a very long amount of time in any case i uh that is i would say more or less as expected Speaker 8: the interesting result is the stabilization points um since we don't have names i just use Speaker 8: their patient number there are a stabilization point that the number started 6000 7000 8000 and Speaker 8: 9000 at the device phase another stabilization point were added and the numbers are starting at Speaker 8: 8300 so this is for all stabilization points and this is for separately for each one of the

00:17:10 Speaker 8: stabilization points and the main conclusion is that there is either there Speaker 8: is no difference or the time became a little longer at the device phase Speaker 8: the major point is that and we discussed that in the last couple of Speaker 8: meetings is that there were a lot of changes happening all the time on the Speaker 8: battle zone and most importantly in the summer around the time that we finish the Speaker 8: baseline and started the device phase Colonel Humeniuk moved the stabilization Speaker 8: points he repositioned them that's one aspect the second thing that changed and

00:18:04 Speaker 8: And again, I don't know. I'm just guessing is that there may be more drone attacks that delay evacuations, regardless of anything else. Speaker 8: But in any case, when I'm looking at the numbers, I've asked Lina, and she's still supposed Speaker 8: to get from Konstantin Humeniuk, if one of those stabilization points actually stayed Speaker 8: at the same place, or all of them moved.

00:18:40 Speaker 8: Lina, did you succeed to get this answer from Colonel Humeniuk? Speaker 7: yesterday discussed this question and he answered that really drones influence on the time of evacuation Speaker 7: and he said that one stabilization point didn't change its location and I have to Speaker 7: and I'm waiting for the number of these stabilization point I will write a little bit later Speaker 7: this was that number. Speaker 7: So he knows the name of the stabilization point, Speaker 7: but he couldn't say the number. Speaker 7: Was it 7, 8, 9 or 6? Speaker 7: That's why I will write you later Speaker 7: as we get this information. Speaker 6: - Baruch, when did we actually start Speaker 6: collecting data for this whole study? Speaker 6: What was the first data, Speaker 6: the first enroll patient in the baseline phase?

00:20:09 [RUS] Speaker 1: I wanted to say that probably today I won't be able to consult them, [RUS] Speaker 1: so let them come tomorrow.

00:20:16 [UKR] Speaker 1: The professor apologizes, but not everything depends on him.

00:20:42 Speaker 1: - Baruch, I would like to say a couple of words Speaker 1: my, what I mean in this situation. Speaker 1: We expect that the use device is lead to decrease Speaker 1: the time from, Speaker 1: until CT. Speaker 1: We realize that due to this problem, Speaker 1: Maybe a longer distance and due to drone attacks, it's difficult to evacuate people during the light time of day. Speaker 1: It's usually after the evening, the night, it's a better chance to be evacuated.

00:21:30 Speaker 1: Maybe need to perform additional analysis on this data, device data. Speaker 1: not only all patients and maybe different two group of patients. Speaker 1: Patients with positive infrascanner data or negative infrascanner data Speaker 1: and time for these different group, Speaker 1: positive and negative data from admission to CT.

00:22:05 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, maybe. Speaker 8: I agree. The only issue is, again, it's too many parameters.

00:22:18 Speaker 1: Not many. It's only two groups. Speaker 1: Positive patients with positive results in front of the screen and negative results in front of the screen. Speaker 1: And compare these groups' time for CT. Speaker 1: and maybe the second analysis compare patients with positive CT scan and negative CT scan Speaker 1: also compare maybe Alex yeah I agree yeah maybe we find to find some reason to use device in this Speaker 1: group. We couldn't confirm effectiveness for all patients, but we find the difference between the

00:23:11 Speaker 1: patients with positive/negative infrascanner data, positive/negative CT data, maybe. Speaker 8: it's a need to ask is our statistical i will do this analysis yeah maybe maybe Speaker 8: now to share something more interesting usually when i have interesting results i'm trying to look Speaker 8: at other parameters so i did a couple more analysis trying to understand first of all Speaker 8: it's very helpful to see what is the prevalence of hematomas in the population because it says a Speaker 8: lot about the population regardless of uh and it helps to understand so uh in the device phase uh

00:23:58 Speaker 8: the prevalence of hematomas was 36 percent uh to give you an idea and typically in us when we do Speaker 8: TBI studies that includes all incomers the prevalence of hematomas are around 15% Speaker 8: and it's more indication of the policy who is being sent to CAT scan the worst Speaker 8: situation that we ever saw was in India where the CAT scan are so scarce so 50% Speaker 8: prevalence of the patient had hematomas so they send in India for CT only very Speaker 8: severely injured patients so 36 is I would say very reasonable it's not India

00:24:47 Speaker 8: but it's not us there are more injured people so it's very reasonable Speaker 8: interesting part that at the baseline there were the prevalence was 61% so for Speaker 8: For some reason at the baseline there were more severely injured patients sent. Speaker 8: The number that completely amazed me that at the stabilization point, the prevalence of Speaker 8: hematomas was close to 85%.

00:25:17 Speaker 8: I've never seen any TBI study with 85% of TBI patients having great hematomas.

00:25:28 Speaker 6: Baruch, does that include false positives? Speaker 8: Everything. It includes everything. Speaker 8: I'm looking only at the CT data. Speaker 8: I'm not even looking at the camera. Speaker 8: I'm looking at the CT data. Speaker 8: of the patient enrolled at stabilization point had brain bleed. Speaker 8: This is, again, we never did a study in the battle zone, but in all the studies, in all

00:26:01 Speaker 8: the literature that I know, I've never seen so many traumatic hematomas in all incomers. Speaker 1: Can I try to explain this data? Speaker 1: First of all, Hematoma prevalence according to CT data. Speaker 1: In stabilization point, mostly patients came without analgosedation. Speaker 1: This is from The Zero Line to the stabilization point. Speaker 1: The main reason to perform analysis was the presence of neurological symptoms.

00:26:47 Speaker 1: But in Mechnikov Hospital, we received a lot of patients under analgosedation and we see Speaker 1: this patient without consciousness due to analgosedation, but with some symptoms of external injury Speaker 1: of the head. Speaker 1: That's why in this situation we sent all these patients for CT. Speaker 1: That's why it's different between Mechnikov hospital and stabilization points, because all Speaker 1: patients analyzed in stabilization pool, most of them without analgosedation. Speaker 1: The second, penetrating TBI, Mechnikov Hospital 0, it's not true.

00:27:32 Speaker 1: It may be a mistake during the statistical analysis. Speaker 1: I couldn't remember which type of this CRF, the primary data form. Speaker 1: check this penetrating TBI because it's not true, it's false. You can check this

00:27:57 Speaker 1: you need to check this information because it's not true. A lot of patients...

00:28:06 Speaker 8: The information that I have is from the CRS. I think, but I don't remember in which...

00:28:16 [RUS] Speaker 1: In which cell is this recorded, this Baruch?

00:28:22 Speaker 7: Baruch, doctor, yes, you understand. Speaker 7: Which category it is? Speaker 8: The one specific field that is saying, is that a penetrating TBI?

00:28:37 Speaker 1: It's not true. Speaker 8: And in all Dnepro forms it was not marked.

00:28:43 Speaker 8: Or at least it is the way in Redcap Speaker 1: Baruch, I tell you what you can see, gunshot wounds Speaker 1: Stabilization point is 70, maybe 80% Speaker 1: It's false, because gunshot wounds are due to bullet Speaker 1: It's a bullet injury Speaker 1: It's not true because some doctors don't understand what means a gunshot. Speaker 1: Gunshot is a bullet. It's less than 3.5% according to our data. Speaker 1: 2500 patients. It's a mistake understanding what it means.

00:29:27 Speaker 1: But if you choose one, I said you need to check a lot of characteristic injury. Speaker 5: You need to check more specific injury. For example, in many cases, we choose only the

00:00:00 Speaker 1: It's a fragmentation due to my blast explosion.

00:00:00 Speaker 1: It's a fragmentation due to my blast explosion. Speaker 1: That's why we really maybe never check this penetrating TBI.

00:00:12 Speaker 1: It's not true because we check fragmentation of my blast injury. Speaker 2: Here we have again, one was based on CT on the radiologist report, if there were fragments, Speaker 2: and then there were a separate field where they filled if it was fragmentation. Speaker 2: so it was 58% versus radiologist's report of 28% so I assume that fragments when they marked that

00:00:55 Speaker 2: they had fragments it was anywhere in the body I'm just guessing it's all it's also some problems Speaker 1: with statistical analysis because I don't remember where in the theory form we check fragment in the

00:01:12 Speaker 1: I never check fragment in the body. In our CREF form, there are no this field to check. Speaker 2: There is fragment period. And I was just guessing why radiologist report and this report are not similar. Speaker 2: maybe when the CRF just says fragment.

00:01:43 Speaker 2: Again, I'm just trying to understand the data.

00:01:47 Speaker 1: No, no, no. Speaker 2: I might be wrong. That's why we're talking.

00:01:52 Speaker 1: We know this maybe tangential wound,

00:02:00 Speaker 1: ricocheting wound due to fragment but we not notice this fragment on the CT. Speaker 1: We not this fragment in CT. It's not true for analysis. It's maybe some mistake. Speaker 1: We know that's a wall due to mind blast fragmentation but it's not always fragment Speaker 1: need to be in the brain, in the skull, in the head. It's maybe tangential wound, Speaker 1: ricocheting wound, and even throughout perforating wound. We couldn't expect this. Speaker 1: - The cardiologist will not notice that. - Not as all this situation. Because this

00:02:47 Speaker 1: mind blast fragmentation is clinical diagnosis and CT is only the situation where fragment located in the head Speaker 2: another at the bottom i did initial analysis of infrascanner performance the sensitivity and the specificity Speaker 2: in in the uh in the parenthesis its number uh there were situations where there were fragments or Speaker 2: fractures of the head without intracranial hematoma that infrascanner showed as positive

00:03:37 Speaker 2: so though it is not uh intracranial hematoma there was still something in the head that Speaker 2: triggered the infrascanner but still i would say that uh the specificity was relatively low because Speaker 2: there were a lot of uh there a lot of scalp injuries that the infrascanner struggled to

00:04:00 Speaker 2: differentiate between them and intracranial hematomas the sensitivity was reasonable i would say Speaker 2: because usually when we say that the infrascanner sensitivity is more than 95 percent it's when we're Speaker 2: looking at uh everything that is larger than small contusions so three milliliters and up Speaker 2: when we look at all hematomas and the sensitivities typically in other studies was around 70 percent so

00:04:35 Speaker 2: when we look at all hematomas 82 or 93 percent i would say that this is pretty pretty good Speaker 1: can i uh baruch i have one more addition that you can see a blast injury in our group in 96 percent Speaker 1: It's true because in all groups, now gunshot wounds in near 3.5%. Speaker 1: I would like to ask you, I see a very high rate CT-based Speaker 1: Hematoma stabilization point, 85%. Speaker 1: What is this patient worth in the first stage of study without a device?

00:05:29 Speaker 1: Did you remember? Speaker 2: - Interesting question. Speaker 2: Let me check. Speaker 1: If I see 85% all patients have hematoma, that's not reason to perform this infrascanner.

00:05:43 Speaker 1: All these patients, which after a neurological and clinical examination, need to send CT. Speaker 1: It's not also true. Speaker 1: That's why I don't imagine. Speaker 1: The doctors analyze only patients, maybe 9 from 10 patients with intracerebral Speaker 1: hematoma. Speaker 1: I don't imagine this. Speaker 3: Yeah, Baruch, the other thing is that the stabilization points, was this a consecutive

00:06:13 Speaker 3: series of patients or was it selective? Speaker 3: And it was selective. Speaker 3: No, all of them. Speaker 2: It was all the patients. Speaker 3: So they didn't skip any patients? Speaker 3: In other words, I'm wondering if they maybe looked at the ones who looked like they had Speaker 3: particularly bad brain injuries and kind of focus on enrolling them that is

00:06:32 Speaker 2: excellent question I do not know that's all the patient for which forms were sent Speaker 2: and entering to red cap at this stage there are 73 patients in red cap from Speaker 2: stabilization points in the device phase and that that that is excellent question Speaker 2: perhaps Speaker 2: it's worth Speaker 2: asking Col. Humaniuk Speaker 2: if they Speaker 2: enrolled everyone Speaker 2: with trauma symptoms Speaker 2: which was the goal Speaker 2: or they chose Speaker 2: those who were Speaker 2: because I agree Speaker 2: with you Speaker 2: I don't know what to say Speaker 2: first of all, I'll look at Speaker 2: the baseline, it's a great point

00:07:23 Speaker 1: You know, to compare with baseline analysis, how many gematom was in the baseline stage. Speaker 2: because I cannot think about any other reason except what Alex suggested it Speaker 2: might be is selecting only the severe injuries for this study the parts that Speaker 2: actually dr. Holcomb liked is there the answer to this question and did the

00:08:10 Speaker 2: results of this investigation change patient care he thought that if in close

00:08:19 Speaker 2: to 90% the doctor decided that it's useful then that might be a result of a Speaker 3: study but what does that mean exactly how does it change patients care because as we saw in the last

00:08:38 Speaker 3: slide it didn't really you know the CT data doesn't suggest that so I asked Holcomb the same question Speaker 2: and his suggestion was let's do at the end of the study a questionnaire of the doctors at

00:08:56 Speaker 2: stabilization point and ask them how did that change their treatment what did they do differently Speaker 1: then why right uh baruch can we Speaker 1: can we see you show again the first slide previous previous slide stop Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Speaker 1: Again, the next, please.

00:09:30 Speaker 1: We need to analyze this data at 60% and 88%. Speaker 1: We need to compare the rate of patients with positive infrascanner data. Speaker 1: How many, what is the person positive infrascanner data in the Mechnikov hospital?

00:10:03 Speaker 1: Did you have these results now?

00:10:07 Speaker 2: What do you mean positive? The CT is positive? Speaker 1: No, no, infrascanner positive. Speaker 1: Uh. Speaker 2: uh...

00:10:21 Speaker 2: uh... Speaker 2: yes Speaker 2: let me Speaker 2: let me show you Speaker 2: just a second

00:10:47 Speaker 2: Do you see the spreadsheet?

00:10:52 Speaker 3: Yes, you see it. Speaker 2: So this is, I'm looking at Nipro. Speaker 2: This is Infra Scanner CT.

00:11:00 Speaker 2: True positive, false positive, true negative, false negative. Speaker 2: - How we collect the specificity. Speaker 2: - How we collect the specificity. Speaker 2: And this is, if I'm including situations Speaker 2: where there were other injuries to the head Speaker 2: that were not hematopied. Speaker 2: That's where the 53.8% coming from. Speaker 2: So, all the positive were the true and the false positive.

00:11:27 Speaker 2: So we had... Speaker 1: - 33. Speaker 2: - 33 out of 50. Speaker 1: - SOTY-3, it's-- Speaker 1: - 66%. Speaker 1: - It's 55. Speaker 1: 55%. Speaker 1: - Oh, yeah, 60. Speaker 1: - No, 55% has positive infrascanner data. Speaker 1: That's why you can see--

00:11:54 Speaker 1: Now you can see also data from stabilization point. Speaker 2: Let me share. Speaker 2: You know, let me -- Speaker 3: Where do you get 60 from? Speaker 3: Why divide it by 60?

00:12:17 Speaker 2: Excuse me, Alex? Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Andre, where do you get 60? Speaker 3: Why are you dividing by 60? Speaker 3: Yeah, 66%.

00:12:30 Speaker 1: 66%. Speaker 1: - Mm-hmm. Speaker 1: - Mm-hmm.

00:12:38 Speaker 2: - Let me just share the screen itself. Speaker 2: Okay, now this is the stabilization point data.

00:13:02 Speaker 2: so the true positive 58 false positive 5 so it's a 63 out of 73

00:13:24 Speaker 3: yeah 86%

00:13:35 Speaker 2: The point is that if clinically the patient doesn't look bad and the infrascanner is negative, I think this is also helpful data.

00:13:49 Speaker 3: Well, I was wondering, does that affect management in that way? Because then you're not so quick to try to transport those patients.

00:13:58 Speaker 2: Yes. That's why is the information useful is a different question for accuracy. Speaker 3: Yes. Speaker 3: The other thing in general, I don't like doctors who get more tests just to have more information when it won't affect patient care. Speaker 3: but i think this is a special case when you're so far forward at a stabilization point i mean

00:14:33 Speaker 3: any information you get uh it's going to be helpful Speaker 2: uh another question that i had if you can see this Speaker 2: uh there were this i i tried also to look if there was correlation between Speaker 2: infrascanner and going actually to a surgery if infrascanner can predict

00:15:00 Speaker 2: surgery and the prediction was 75% which is not great so Baruch what what kind of

00:15:12 Speaker 3: surgery well what kind of surgery specifically oh oh that that is exactly Speaker 2: my that's exactly is going to be my point because then out of curiosity i see i look what is the Speaker 2: correlation between positive ct and surgery and to my surprise it was even lower than the infrascanner Speaker 2: so for example this patient 4237 that is in nipro uh he the ct was negative the radiologist says Speaker 2: brain without pathological local changes but he went to surgery a primary surgical

00:15:51 Speaker 2: wound treatment so that's a question to dr. circle is that surgery just simply Speaker 1: not related to the brain you get the scalp yes yes some is this only soft Speaker 1: tissue wound treatment. Speaker 1: In this situation, a patient can have intracranial change, traumatic change, and some patients Speaker 1: don't have intracranial change. Speaker 1: That's why it's need to more deeply analyze these cases, because if a patient has a wound,

00:16:35 Speaker 1: we need to perform primary wound treatment and tie suture this wound. It's also operation.

00:16:46 Speaker 2: But it is not intracranial operation?

00:16:50 Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 2: Understood. That's why the correlation between either CT or infrascanner and surgery is not great,

00:17:00 Speaker 2: because many surgeries are unrelated to intracranial damage. Speaker 1: - Baruch, I think if it's possible, Speaker 1: I recommend you write one, two, three, maybe 10 questions, Speaker 1: and maybe give for me or for Alex this primary data, Speaker 1: and I look more carefully, attentively, this data and answer in your question, Speaker 1: because we see this data first time and I don't give answer very quickly, very fast.

00:17:51 Speaker 1: First of all, list your question and primary data and we may be separately

00:18:00 Speaker 1: analyze and answer you, Alex and I separately and you can compare our answer.

00:18:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can send you the spreadsheet. Speaker 3: Yeah, Baruch and Dave, just let me show you an example. Speaker 3: This is a patient recently who had not much, I know it has been horrible, soft tissue, scalp Speaker 3: injuries so the kind of scalp injuries we're seeing are just horrible from this this war so Speaker 3: it's possible that maybe they look terrible like this guy but they don't need to go to the operating

00:18:31 Speaker 3: room for a brain operation yeah like this patient so this is exactly why i wanted to talk with both of Speaker 2: view is the spreadsheet that I am sending has three three pages one is the data is Speaker 2: all the database for all the fields then I try to look separately on the times Speaker 2: that's a page of times where I just took the data from the whole database and Speaker 2: look at the times and then the infrascanner where I try to correlate

00:19:18 Speaker 2: infrascanner performance versus CT and versus surgery I think my big question is Speaker 2: just one big question what do you suggest to do with the data and for the Speaker 2: remainder of the patient because like usually it is complex we have we collect Speaker 2: a lot of data the question is is there anything useful in the data that we can Speaker 2: analyze and get any conclusions.

00:20:05 Speaker 2: I think there is a lot of data. Speaker 2: I think some of that might be helpful. Speaker 2: Some of that might be conclusion. Speaker 2: But we knew that doing a study in war zone is going to be challenging. Speaker 2: and I just know that you are definitely, Speaker 2: both of you are two of the smartest people Speaker 2: in this field of TBI generally Speaker 2: and clinical research. Speaker 2: So I would really appreciate your opinion Speaker 2: about if we see something, what do we see? Speaker 2: What are the conclusions? Speaker 2: What are the results? Speaker 2: even if the time is not parameter that we can really get any meaningful what can we what can we get

00:20:53 Speaker 1: barouf barouf in order to answer your question first of all we need to understand why 84 patient Speaker 1: in stabilization point has a hematoma, intracranial hematoma. Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine this situation because a lot of patients, the criteria for inclusion, Speaker 1: symptoms of brain confusion. Speaker 1: A lot of patients in even clear consciousness,

00:21:39 Speaker 1: 15 points of Glasgow Coma Scale score also have symptoms Speaker 1: of neurological symptoms, symptoms of brain trauma injury. Speaker 1: It's a statistic, usually only 15% of patients Speaker 1: with traumatic brain injury is severe TBI. Speaker 1: Of only 15, 20% all patients Speaker 1: with neurological symptoms have severe TBI. Speaker 1: But it's look like infrascanner performed after CT. Speaker 1: CT identified hematoma, after that we perform infrascanner. Speaker 1: because conditioned patients which admitted in our hospital

00:22:25 Speaker 1: it's more severe than all patients Speaker 1: who primary admitted to stabilization point. Speaker 1: All patients admitted stabilization point Speaker 1: after study this patient, examine this patient, Speaker 1: diagnostic procedures this patient, Speaker 1: only severe injured patients sent to Mechnikov hospital. Speaker 1: another not severe injury sent another city hospital in our city. Speaker 1: For example, a lot of hospital located in our city without neurosurgical department. Speaker 1: That's why only severe injured people get to Mechnikov Hospital.

00:23:12 Speaker 1: That's why from this severe patient, but in analog sedation, as I mentioned previously, Speaker 1: have only 36, maybe as far as I remember, percent of hematoma. Speaker 1: But I couldn't imagine if patient has neurological symptoms, has trauma head, face, maybe 9 from 10 patients Speaker 1: has intracranial hematoma? First of all, we need to receive answer for this question: Speaker 1: Why so many patients have intracranial hematoma? Why another patient will not perform infrascanner?

00:23:58 Speaker 1: Why? And also, I repeat my question: compare percent of patient with hematoma in the baseline Speaker 1: and percent of patients with hematoma is the device phase Speaker 1: it's need to compare because it's maybe different type of

00:24:20 Speaker 1: injuries and different category of patients Speaker 2: i know i also have no idea why and the baseline in the nipro the prevalence was 61

00:24:37 Speaker 2: percent maybe it was more severe patients that were included in the baseline phase

00:24:51 Speaker 3: anyway yeah what do you send the data can you also send the PowerPoint I don't know if you Speaker 2: said that already my emails out on the grid no no I did I did not I wanted first to present it and Speaker 2: discuss it and then and then send the data up to you I have a similar Speaker 2: spreadsheet for stabilization points with the data from the where I got the Speaker 2: number for stabilization points are you okay with me sending it to you or for Speaker 2: reason for clinical study you prefer not to see the data although the data

00:25:38 Speaker 2: enrollment in Mechnikov is completed so I'm not sure it's a problem yeah I I Speaker 3: think it would be okay I don't see a problem yeah I'm not being it'll take a Speaker 3: while to go through this I'm just trying to think how to carve out the time Speaker 3: because my friend Andre has me loaded down with a lot of important projects

00:25:55 Speaker 2: I know that that's why I didn't want to overwhelm you with it's the full database of the device phase with Speaker 2: With everything Speaker 2: so I've tried to look at statistic on different fields and Speaker 2: how to look at this but Speaker 2: First of all, I need now to look at the I'll get the data from the database for the Speaker 2: baseline phase for stabilization points and also look at the prevalence there but Speaker 2: Again happy to share everything I'm just Speaker 2: Trying to think how can we

00:26:41 Speaker 2: Get anything meaningful. Yeah, I agree. No, this is Speaker 3: It's like problem-solving, you know, and I like problem-solving so Speaker 3: We'll make it work. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 4: Because I believe it's not a problem. Speaker 4: Sorry. Speaker 4: It's a task request. Speaker 3: Well, yeah. Speaker 3: Well, yeah. Speaker 3: There's got to be an answer in there somewhere. Speaker 1: Yep. Speaker 2: Fantastic. Speaker 2: So I'll send everything. Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time. Speaker 2: And definitely thank you very much for everything that you're doing now.

00:27:16 Speaker 1: Great. Speaker 1: Great. Speaker 1: Thank you.

00:27:20 [RUS] Speaker 4: Thank you, Ina. [RUS] Speaker 4: You too

00:27:47 [RUS] Speaker 1: Alright, continuing. [RUS] Speaker 1: Alright, continuing. [RUS] Speaker 1: - How much time do we have before [RUS] Speaker 1: we need to leave for the party?

00:27:57 Speaker 1: - An hour.

00:27:58 [RUS] Speaker 1: - An hour? [RUS] Speaker 1: - An hour.

00:28:00 [RUS] Speaker 1: - And will you need to wrap up? [RUS] Speaker 1: - Yes, we'll wrap up. [RUS] Speaker 1: In any case I'll send colleagues [RUS] Speaker 1: who could... [RUS] Speaker 1: Now.

00:28:15 [UKR] Speaker 1: I'm calling to see who'll be there, they'll save seats, they'll wait for us.

00:28:21 [RUS] Speaker 1: Don't worry now.

00:28:26 [UKR] Speaker 1: They spent so long setting it up, so we need to film, and then go celebrate.

00:28:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: So this isn't limiting, this isn't surgery, the patient isn't under anesthesia. [UKR] Speaker 1: Vyacheslav Vanimovych, when will you be there, are you planning for five or? [UKR] Speaker 1: - You said at five. [UKR] Speaker 1: - Yes, I just have a request that no one from your team is late. Arrive and say you ordered right away, so they don't change their minds, because we might be 15-20 minutes late. [UKR] Speaker 1: Yes, please, take seats and don't give the food to anyone. Either my name, or Razom.

00:29:15 [UKR] Speaker 1: The charity organization Razom for Ukraine. There may already be part of the pre-order there. [UKR] Speaker 1: Maybe they already ordered something. If not, order and eat. [UKR] Speaker 1: If they start bringing food before the order, we'll catch up. [UKR] Speaker 1: Thanks, man, thanks. [UKR] Speaker 1: So don't worry, we'll film everything, do everything and calmly go. [UKR] Speaker 1: So, yes.

00:00:00 [RUS-NEEDS] Где мы потеряли Матеуса?

00:00:09 [RUS] Speaker 1: Where did we lose Mateus? [RUS] Speaker 1: Mateus says, it's Deus. [RUS] Speaker 1: Teddy looks like a Bear, what was he called? [RUS] Speaker 1: What's he called? [RUS] Speaker 1: I don't remember? [RUS] Speaker 2: It's broken, man. [RUS] Speaker 1: Two minutes.

00:01:01 [UKR] Speaker 1: Two words, I'm doing fine, we're working according to plan. [UKR] Speaker 1: I wanted to ask, what's that cartoon we watched about Teddy the Bear called? [UKR] Speaker 1: What was it called... [UKR] Speaker 1: What was it called... [UKR] Speaker 1: It's not Teddy Bear, it's Paddington. [UKR] Speaker 1: Paddington? Okay, I got it. [UKR] Speaker 1: Good, I was at the store, you got it, right?

00:01:25 [RUS] Speaker 1: Yeah, I see. [RUS] Speaker 1: See you tomorrow.

00:01:31 [UKR] Speaker 1: Good, good.

00:01:32 [RUS] Speaker 1: good job good job bye bye [RUS] Speaker 1: coming in dynamics

00:02:13 Speaker 1: we will work as much as need yes because because it's a our Speaker 1: So, the dinner is not like operation. Speaker 1: We can move a bit later. Speaker 1: That's why... Speaker 1: Don't worry. Speaker 1: - Okay.

00:02:37 Speaker 3: We have a good amount still to talk about.

00:02:41 Speaker 3: I was waiting for more of a card back.

00:02:46 [UKR] Speaker 1: We can keep waiting, after what we managed to do

00:03:16 Speaker 3: Let's move on. Speaker 2: - So that's what I'll ask. Speaker 2: - So that's what I'll ask. Speaker 3: - Okay, I'm going.

00:03:30 Speaker 3: - Okay, I'm here. Speaker 1: - He's married, two kids.

00:03:41 [RUS] Speaker 1: They're here, at the door, waiting inside.

00:03:51 [UKR] Speaker 1: Though you could have consulted the people yourself. [UKR] Speaker 1: Though you could have consulted the people yourself.

00:03:57 [UKR] Speaker 2: I translated to him that when they consulted,

00:04:01 [UKR] Speaker 2: this last microphone, they listened, translated a bit.

00:04:08 [RUS] Speaker 1: and shuffles we can do that too

00:04:38 Speaker 2: I'm not going to release it, we'll just put the cards in. Speaker 3: You have two cards? Speaker 2: Did you, oh you pulled the card already? Speaker 3: I gave it to you. Speaker 3: Yeah, a while ago. Speaker 3: Yeah, a while ago. Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew that. Speaker 2: Alright.

00:05:15 Speaker 2: . Speaker 2: Put that in the Whatsapp. Speaker 2: I will.

00:05:30 Speaker 2: It's so weird to see Logan smile. Speaker 2: Yeah, this smile looks like you're in pain. Speaker 3: I thought you were talking about Andre's smile. Speaker 2: No. Speaker 2: Sorry about you. Speaker 2: He smiled for like one second.

00:05:45 Speaker 1: This is uh, not an awesome one. Speaker 1: Hello.

00:05:54 Speaker 3: I'm not looking so good. Speaker 3: I thought you were taking a photo of Andre. Speaker 2: Why? I'm using the background.

00:06:03 Speaker 3: I don't think of a photo of me. Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to show you, you know, things are happening. Speaker 2: I'll show you. Speaker 2: Can you see it? Speaker 3: What is that doing? Speaker 2: I'm talking to Alex. Speaker 2: I think about the stuff we're trying to do tomorrow. Speaker 2: Gotcha. Speaker 2: Probably. Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to trash. Speaker 3: I don't know, it was on the floor, so I just picked it up. Speaker 2: So, how about you tell me what you want to learn?

00:06:39 Speaker 2: What do you want to ask Andre? Speaker 3: Well, I mean, like, um, stuff that we started to get into yesterday. Speaker 3: When Andre and I met for the first time in Los Angeles, Speaker 3: We had this long conversation, and one of the things that we could commit, we got into was the,

00:07:00 Speaker 3: a lot of the neurosurgeons have left the country, you know, half of the neurosurgeons have left

00:07:04 Speaker 3: the country, and the workload has tripled that, and the idea of like, um, um, so, um,

00:07:14 Speaker 2: why he chooses to stay? Speaker 3: Yes, and also it really like Speaker 3: the subtext I read into him Speaker 3: telling us in Los Angeles Speaker 3: about Speaker 3: his last name was Speaker 3: that he had a duty

00:07:30 Speaker 3: you know, and so Speaker 3: I don't know how we get to that Speaker 2: Well, I have one question related to that Speaker 2: I think Speaker 2: you'll be good to answer anything else? Speaker 3: Um, then Speaker 3: I started to ask him last night about the famous heart surgeon Michael DeBakey in the Speaker 3: United States. Speaker 3: He talked about how he felt simply by not being in New York or LA that he had the ability to Speaker 3: sort of carve his own way in medicine and do things that were outside the norm because Speaker 3: he wasn't in the established sort of like capitals of medicine or capital, you know,

00:08:29 Speaker 3: And we talked about it a little in the car, but it is sort of like, from talking to Alex, there are so many things that he does that's revolutionary, right? Speaker 3: And so, and then also like, you know, I'd love to know the politics of this place, and then, of Mechnikov. Speaker 3: So like, you know, within his team, he's the boss. Speaker 3: It's all this, this, this. Speaker 3: But like, other people here have their own turf, right? Speaker 3: Their own space.

00:09:16 Speaker 3: But like, and also like, tell me and tell us about Dnipro. Speaker 3: I mean like it was, it is, it was a center for space firms, correct? Aerospace? Speaker 3: And just, when we talked to Bohdan and Bohdan said, Bohdan, sorry, Bohdan said that Bohdan Speaker 3: called himself, he said that Sviatoslav would feel the pressure because Bohdan felt that he

00:10:07 Speaker 3: was not the good son. And it might be a translation thing, but that was an interesting thing.

00:10:16 Speaker 2: So what is the question about this?

00:10:20 Speaker 3: That's a good question. It's more the... Speaker 2: I have one question related to him working with Bohdan.

00:10:33 Speaker 2: But maybe, I don't know, if you have a specific... Speaker 3: Well, I just, like, no, I think that just, like, you know, he sent us that message, translating the Facebook memory of, like, I'm proud of you, and, like, that was something that I said to Bohdan. Speaker 3: I feel your pride in your son, Bohdan. Speaker 3: And I would like him to speak to that, but also, you know, the... Speaker 3: I don't know what it was with Bohdan, but I feel like he... Speaker 3: I don't know, I feel like he doesn't... Speaker 3: There's something... Speaker 3: there's something that's not allowing yourself to be within himself that is strongly admirable.

00:11:26 Speaker 3: And that's probably part of it, part of the humility, too.

00:11:33 Speaker 3: Anyway, so we can go and ask your questions. Speaker 2: I can tell you what questions I have. Speaker 2: I wanted to ask a bit about when I'm interested to work in this hospital. Speaker 2: how his work changed during his years here and especially from like the 2014 and from 2022 Speaker 2: and then I thought about asking about Bohdan how is it for him to work with his son Speaker 2: and here I can also ask this question that you just asked about what Bohdan told us in his interview Speaker 2: And then I wanted to ask about the fact that they have many young, very young doctors.

00:12:21 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask if that is something that always used to happen or is this related to the war? Speaker 2: And then I have a question: what is the most difficult part in his work during the past years? Speaker 2: He's a very active work for a team. Speaker 2: And then I wanted to ask him, he usually has a line of people waiting to get his consultation Speaker 2: and he is on call almost like 24/7, his phone rings all the time.

00:12:56 Speaker 2: And he operates also regularly and I just wanted to learn how he manages all this.

00:13:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you had the idea of knowing the right words. Speaker 2: Yes, and that is my next question. Speaker 2: And then I wanted to ask this question related to many people leaving, Speaker 2: many doctors leaving, but he chooses to stay while being very well-known specialist Speaker 2: and knowing many people abroad who would happily work with him elsewhere,

00:13:30 Speaker 2: but he chooses to stay here, why? Speaker 2: And... Speaker 3: So I will say about that and why I want him to talk about Ivan Sirko again,

00:13:40 Speaker 3: that there's a thought in my mind of naming the film Sirko not because of Andre,

00:13:47 Speaker 3: but because of what the name means.

00:13:51 Speaker 2: And I can mention this Michael Debelkin. Speaker 3: DeBakey. Speaker 3: He's a pioneer in heart surgery. Speaker 3: And it was something that Andre and I were talking about last night on our drive. Speaker 3: So you weren't there, obviously, because you were driving the other car. Speaker 3: And I didn't bring up DeBakey, but it was actually Alex who brought up that thought and it sort of stayed with me. Speaker 3: And then, I forget who said it. Speaker 3: Alex actually knows he can go off the cuff on it. Speaker 3: But there's this saying in English,

00:14:30 Speaker 3: or a saying of a famous writer, Speaker 3: evil triumphs when good people do nothing. Speaker 3: And why is it so easy for good people to do nothing? Speaker 3: Because when it's not your problem, Speaker 3: or even when you have some sort of passion about it, Speaker 3: like, you know, I'm just thinking about Speaker 3: the rest of the world and coming here and how people can find their fortitude and do what's right. [VO CANDIDATE] Speaker 3: But like just sort of a question of like why is it easier at times to not get involved.

00:15:20 [RUS] Speaker 3: And, you know, it's a standard that I ask most people, [RUS] Speaker 3: like, what does it mean to be Ukrainian, what does he have.

00:15:33 Speaker 3: And I Speaker 3: Sure. Speaker 3: Yep. Speaker 3: Okay, we're rolling, I think. Speaker 3: Oh, no, we're not rolling. He cut. Speaker 3: So, whatever. Speaker 2: I'm going to have Logan and tell him Speaker 2: that we are locking the door. Speaker 3: Okay.

00:16:18 Speaker 3: And are you going to stick near when we're ready to go handheld and do the thing? Speaker 3: Yeah, how long do you think that's going to be? Speaker 3: I might honestly shoot a B-roll in FX6 or something.

00:16:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you should. Speaker 3: Do you want to give me a time when you think we'll return for that? Speaker 3: At least 30 minutes, right? Speaker 3: Yeah, I think even more. Speaker 3: Yeah, even more. Speaker 3: Maybe an hour? Speaker 3: Yeah, 445 an hour. Speaker 3: 445, yeah, 445. Speaker 3: Let's go have dinner at 5. Speaker 1: I need to. Speaker 3: You get the clap again, yes. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 3: And then, Andre, can I do shift so you're facing your shoulders kind of like they're looking? Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. Speaker 3: That's how you were before. Speaker 3: Okay. Speaker 3: Thank you, guys. Speaker 3: And you've rolled.

00:17:00 Speaker 3: Okay. Speaker 3: There you go. Speaker 3: You got it.

00:17:19 [UKR] Speaker 2: I want to return to the moment when you started working at the hospital. [UKR] Speaker 1: I started working at the hospital in 2000. [UKR] Speaker 1: At that time there were many neurosurgeons at the hospital, and it was almost impossible to get into the hospital. [UKR] Speaker 1: I asked my father-in-law, that is, my wife's father, to find a way to get me a job. [UKR] Speaker 1: And they hired me for only a quarter position. I started working at a full quarter position. [UKR] Speaker 1: From this, gradually, a quarter position in the department, a quarter position in the admission and diagnostic department, [UKR] Speaker 1: then half a position in the department, then from 2001 I also started working part-time

00:18:06 [UKR] Speaker 1: as an assistant at the Department of Nervous Diseases and Neurosurgery. [UKR] Speaker 1: That is, along with practical work, I was also engaged in scientific work and pedagogical work. [UKR] Speaker 1: At first it was students, then interns, then already doctors-trainees. [UKR] Speaker 1: That is, I climbed both the practical ladder, first as a neurosurgeon, then head of the neurotrauma department, [UKR] Speaker 1: head of the cerebral neurosurgery department, and at the institute. [UKR] Speaker 1: First assistant, then associate professor, then professor.

00:18:43 [UKR] Speaker 1: So it was 2000 and until 2005 I worked as a neurosurgeon.

00:18:50 [UKR] Speaker 2: How has your work changed over the past 25 years at the hospital, especially from 2013-2014 and 2022? [UKR] Speaker 1: I'll say this: in 2005, I defended my PhD dissertation at the Romodanov Neurosurgery Institute in Kyiv, became a candidate of medical sciences, I already had the highest category in neurosurgery, [UKR] Speaker 1: And then the director of the main hospital, Vladimir Oleksiyovych Pavlov, appointed me head of the neurotrauma department. [UKR] Speaker 1: That is, neurotrauma, where I started, I became the head of this department.

00:19:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: This gave me the opportunity, so to speak, freedom in my actions. [UKR] Speaker 1: I looked at what was being done before me and what could be changed. [UKR] Speaker 1: And there were many implementations in practice. These included decompressive craniectomies, and intracranial pressure monitoring, and cisternography in the diagnosis of nasal CSF leaks, traumatic, spontaneous, and repair of skull defects with titanium implants.

00:20:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: That is, it gave me freedom to introduce new technologies. [UKR] Speaker 1: And many of these technologies were implemented for the first time at Mechnikov Hospital, not only in Dnipropetrovsk region, but in Ukraine. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: In 2009, the chief physician Vladimir Alekseyovich Pavlov also decided to merge two neurosurgery departments, neurosurgery and neurotrauma. [UKR] Speaker 1: and I became the head of the combined department with 60 beds. [UKR] Speaker 1: If before it was 30 beds, it became 60 beds, and I started introducing new technologies not only in neurotrauma, but also in neuro-oncology. [UKR] Speaker 1: These are technologies called the use of stereotaxis, neuronavigation in neuro-oncology,

00:20:48 [UKR] Speaker 1: the use of intraoperative neurophysiological monitoring for removal of brainstem tumors located near the brainstem. [UKR] Speaker 1: This is the fifth category of complexity, and we have achieved significant success, we are among the leaders in this direction in Ukraine, along with the Romodanov Neurosurgery Institute. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: So the opportunity to be a head of department, also the scientific level was growing, [UKR] Speaker 1: because in 2012 I already defended my doctoral dissertation, became a doctor of medical sciences, [UKR] Speaker 1: and in 2012 I gradually received, as they say, all awards, all titles, [UKR] Speaker 1: that is, Honored Doctor of the country, neurosurgeon of the highest category,

00:21:37 [UKR] Speaker 1: doctor of medical sciences, professor, and in 2023 I received, I believe, [UKR] Speaker 1: one of my greatest awards, along with the Order of Merit [UKR] Speaker 1: of the third degree, this is an award from the hand of the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy, [UKR] Speaker 1: which is called "National Legend of Ukraine." [UKR] Speaker 1: This is a great honor, this is not only my merit, this is the merit of the entire team, [UKR] Speaker 1: and the team of Mechnikov Hospital led by our general director Serhiy Anatoliyovych Ryzhenko, [UKR] Speaker 1: because this really treats such a large number of wounded, the results of treatment. [UKR] Speaker 1: I was chosen among 10-12 people who were awarded this year, also worthy, very worthy people in various fields.

00:22:24 [UKR] Speaker 1: These are athletes, these are actors, these are volunteers, and these are also people who died in the war, heroes. [UKR] Speaker 1: Da Vynci, as you well know, was just awarded posthumously.

00:22:40 [UKR] Speaker 1: But this is an award for hard work, primarily of the hospital staff. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 2: In fact, my next question is about your colleagues.

00:22:51 [UKR] Speaker 2: Who are your colleagues, tell us a bit about your team?

00:22:57 [UKR] Speaker 1: Now I'll turn it off so that I... [UKR] Speaker 2: If it's important, then take it.

00:23:01 Speaker 1: Just a moment.

00:23:02 [RUS] Speaker 2: Everything is important for you. [RUS] Speaker 1: Hello.

00:23:07 [UKR] Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Andriy Hryhorovych, I apologize, do you have a minute?

00:23:11 [UKR] Speaker 1: Tell me what questions you have. [UKR] Speaker 2: It's Kustovsky, we operated on him with you. We had recurrent seizures again, and we want to come to you.

00:23:22 [UKR] Speaker 2: Before we come, we need to get an encephalogram. [UKR] Speaker 1: You're answering your own questions. There must be a fresh electroencephalogram and a fresh MRI. [UKR] Speaker 1: And then you can come? [UKR] Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes. [UKR] Speaker 1: Thank you. I'll tell you how we'll do this, can you come by phone? [UKR] Speaker 1: Agreed, goodbye.

00:23:52 [UKR] Speaker 1: I'll turn on flight mode because I turned it on for the first conversation.

00:23:59 [UKR] Speaker 2: Your team, tell us a bit about them. [UKR] Speaker 1: Actually, as you've already seen in the photos, among my colleagues there are many young people. [UKR] Speaker 1: Many young people and young guys. [UKR] Speaker 1: First, why is this so? [UKR] Speaker 1: Because, especially since 2022, the number of doctors has decreased almost by half. [UKR] Speaker 1: It decreased almost by half, and there are three reasons: doctors went abroad. [UKR] Speaker 1: Abroad they, those who have large families, that is, three or more children, those with disabilities,

00:24:44 [UKR] Speaker 1: three people went abroad, and they chose the life that they consider better for them, for their families. [UKR] Speaker 1: I have no right to judge them, it's their choice, they left. [UKR] Speaker 1: Several doctors, again, now I'll say, three doctors work in Dnipro, but they work in city hospitals and mainly provide planned neurosurgical care. [UKR] Speaker 1: We say abroad it's called elective cases, these are selected cases, brain tumors themselves, other pathology, but there's not such a number of wounded, severely wounded, there are no such difficult shifts, no operations at night.

00:25:35 [UKR] Speaker 1: Yes, these are my students, I once taught them, they became doctors of the highest category, they became candidates of science. [UKR] Speaker 1: The time came, they decided to leave, and they, as they say, are already doing what they like. [UKR] Speaker 1: Indeed, not what is most needed now - operating on the wounded - but what they like, this is also their choice.

00:26:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: One doctor moved to the endovascular neurosurgery department, Vadym Perepelytsya, this is my second PhD that I prepared, that is, doctor of philosophy. [UKR] Speaker 1: He works there, saves the wounded, this is also his choice, he liked not open surgery, but endovascular operations through vessel puncture. [UKR] Speaker 1: And one doctor was mobilized to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, works as a doctor in a military hospital. [UKR] Speaker 1: So the number of doctors has decreased by half, but at the same time young people are coming. [UKR] Speaker 1: They know that I'm always happy to share my knowledge, my experience. [UKR] Speaker 1: And even surgical interns come. [UKR] Speaker 1: Surgeons, they say: "We want to be a neurosurgeon."

00:26:49 [UKR] Speaker 1: Andriy Hryhorovych, you saw both Artem and Mykhailo. [UKR] Speaker 1: These are unique people because their parents are also military, they serve at the front.

00:27:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: And Mykhailo's father is a sergeant, now in the Pokrovsk direction, Mykhailo saves the wounded at Mechnikov Hospital, [UKR] Speaker 1: his father in the trenches defends Ukraine. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: These are people, one from Vinnytsia, one from Cherkasy, who don't have rich parents, who don't have a lot of money, so to speak, connections, [UKR] Speaker 1: these are not spoiled brats, these are the simplest people who came and say: "Andriy Hryhorovych, we want to learn from you, we want to save with you." [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: Indeed, and they work with me, you see, we operate together with Mykhailo, and he's a surgical intern, but he already has training, [UKR] Speaker 1: neurosurgical, which can provide care for neurotrauma. [UKR] Speaker 1: So we'll do everything so that he goes through neurosurgery residency in Kyiv,

00:27:46 [UKR] Speaker 1: and they want to work in this department. [UKR] Speaker 1: That is, young people are smart, young people are patriotically minded, [UKR] Speaker 1: they're not afraid of the proximity of The Zero Line, the explosions of shells. [UKR] Speaker 1: They see that they can learn. [UKR] Speaker 1: They can learn from me and work with their hands, [UKR] Speaker 1: and they can learn to write articles, become scientists, and perhaps when they grow up, learn to do everything, [UKR] Speaker 1: then they'll say, thank you, you taught us, we'll go manage our own departments. [UKR] Speaker 1: This is also good, because I see many professionals, they made themselves, but they cannot prepare a team,

00:28:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: cannot leave students after themselves. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: I, like my teachers, Professor Zorin and Professor Mosiychuk, [UKR] Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of competition. Why? [UKR] Speaker 1: Because every year I do more complex things, [UKR] Speaker 1: I go up and pull others along with me. [UKR] Speaker 1: We conquered one peak, climb up here, [UKR] Speaker 1: by the time you climb here, I'll climb even higher. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: And this is true, so they come to other departments [UKR] Speaker 1: at Mechnikov and across Ukraine, people are afraid of competition, so I learned myself, [UKR] Speaker 1: you stay at that level. I don't have that. [UKR] Speaker 1: With me, you saw Rostyslav Malyy, Oleksandr Volodymyrovych is the same age as me, [UKR] Speaker 1: but younger are Volodymyr, Vadym Botykov, Mykyta Hulidin.

00:29:16 [UKR] Speaker 1: They already operate on tumors, they operate very well. [UKR] Speaker 1: And I say, I'm happy for you, and if the team is strong, then our department is strong. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: And what you see in the corridor every day near my office, [UKR] Speaker 1: 10 people sit on block G, on block D from the residents' room to my doctors. [UKR] Speaker 1: I understand that we are a top department not only in Dnipropetrovsk, Dnipropetrovsk region,

00:29:46 [UKR] Speaker 1: but in the east of central Ukraine, they come to us because they know we take on complex cases.

00:00:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: That's how it is, but I'm proud of it, because while there's physical strength for this, that's good.

00:00:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: That's how it is, but I'm proud of it, because while there's physical strength for this, that's good. [UKR] Speaker 2: - Yes, next. You mentioned your young doctors, that's exactly what I wanted to ask you about.

00:00:14 [UKR] Speaker 2: And one of these fairly young doctors is also your son. Can you recall the moment when you realized your son would be a doctor, how it was, when it was, and how is it working with him now? [UKR] Speaker 1: Bohdan – he's an unusual person, he has this tattoo on his skin, "born to be wild." [UKR] Speaker 1: Born to be wild, meaning he never in his life strongly submitted to what I told him, [UKR] Speaker 1: and went his own way. That's good for any person, that he chooses his own path, sets challenges for himself and tries to overcome them.

00:00:59 [UKR] Speaker 1: He wanted to breed fish, he got so into it that our whole house was full of aquariums, he spent all his time, there's a market, Ozerka, [UKR] Speaker 1: He spent time there, learned to breed those fish that lay eggs, which I had managed to breed. [UKR] Speaker 1: And I had succeeded at it. [UKR] Speaker 1: He said: "I'll go into industrial breeding of sturgeon, salmon, trout, please."

00:01:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: Then "I'll be a journalist, a politician." [UKR] Speaker 1: And when he was finishing school, he was drawn more toward medicine. [UKR] Speaker 1: Then he decided to enter medical school, studied very well there, was drawn to surgery. [UKR] Speaker 1: He constantly participated in surgery olympiads, found laboratories somewhere, made incisions, did operations, created his own surgical channels. [UKR] Speaker 1: Meaning he was engaged in surgery. When he graduated and the question arose – what will you be? Well, probably a neurosurgeon. He came to neurosurgery, but even when he came to neurosurgery, I hadn't decided yet whether I'd be a neurosurgeon, I want to try everything.

00:02:19 [UKR] Speaker 1: And he tried himself in the Burn Center, in plastic surgery, in ophthalmology, in maxillofacial surgery, and in vascular surgery. [UKR] Speaker 1: And everywhere he went – I need to learn this. [UKR] Speaker 1: And as I said, he spent a lot of time in mobile hospitals, but that gave him the fact that he's universal. [UKR] Speaker 1: A universal doctor, he likes being a trauma surgeon more. [UKR] Speaker 1: Abroad there's no neurosurgeon, no surgeon or maxillofacial surgeon. [UKR] Speaker 1: There's such a concept as trauma surgeon. [UKR] Speaker 1: A trauma surgeon does these operations for trauma. [UKR] Speaker 1: And this really draws him and he operates on trauma quite well.

00:03:04 [UKR] Speaker 1: I'll be honest, when there are soft tissue defects, torn skin, [UKR] Speaker 1: such large wounds. Even I, even experienced doctors from my department invite him: [UKR] Speaker 1: "Bohdan, how to make the incision? How to rotate these skin flaps so they can be sutured, so there's no defect?" [UKR] Speaker 1: And I'm amazed, and Rocco Armonda, Alex Valadka, they watch when he assembles defects from those flaps, [UKR] Speaker 1: how they then heal. He operated on Viktor Rozovyi together with Mykyta Hulidin. [UKR] Speaker 1: this is from KVN, they did such plastic work that I think no one in Ukraine in the acute period would have done such a neurological operation,

00:03:50 [UKR] Speaker 1: as Mykyta Hulidin did, and how Bohdan assembled those flaps, how it then healed, so no one forces him: "You want to, try." [UKR] Speaker 1: When there was opportunity to rest during internship, he went to mobile hospitals. [UKR] Speaker 1: For a long time there was no communication, but truly he never used my surname as a shield. [UKR] Speaker 1: He would come, negotiate, starting with doctors, and then, when the heads of the hospital medical service [UKR] Speaker 1: connected his surname, they were amazed – how are you, the professor's son, coming here to the hospital.

00:04:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: This doesn't fit in the head. Usually professors' sons, they're somewhere looking for a warm spot. [UKR] Speaker 1: No, he goes where it's hard, he goes where he can test himself. [UKR] Speaker 1: He goes to the mountains alone, tests himself, how he can survive in the mountains without outside help, encountering those same bears, wild dogs that either herd those pastures, but they're wild and they can attack a person. [UKR] Speaker 1: He constantly tests himself. He really is, like, wild, but in the good sense of the word, like our ancestors were, they were such that they started, they had their own faith, even non-Orthodox faith, you remember these moments, but this says that the person is free.

00:05:24 [UKR] Speaker 1: He's free in his thinking, in his choice, in his behavior. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: Yes, this doesn't violate generally accepted moral boundaries, but this says that the person is truly developing. [UKR] Speaker 1: And so he knows English better than me, although we went to these courses together, but it comes easier to him, [UKR] Speaker 1: and he gets pleasure from it. [UKR] Speaker 1: He visited the USA 20 years before me, not 20, maybe less, because he went on this Work and Travel program and was a lifeguard by the pools. [UKR] Speaker 1: He saved those children, he passed all these life-saving courses, he knows the language well, he's not afraid of anything.

00:06:11 [UKR] Speaker 1: For example, when returning either in London or somewhere there was a transfer, I, for example, was afraid, there were 12 hours, he decided to go to the city. [UKR] Speaker 1: And he went to the city, came back. [UKR] Speaker 1: Similarly he came to America, and the hotel, where he came, that hostel was closed,

00:06:32 [RUS] Speaker 1: already closed.

00:06:33 [UKR] Speaker 1: He found common language with an African American, [UKR] Speaker 1: and together with him on a bench until five in the morning, until the hostel opened, [UKR] Speaker 1: they spent this time together. [UKR] Speaker 1: This says that the person is very communicative, [UKR] Speaker 1: He can find common language with young, with adults. [UKR] Speaker 1: I remember, he was 3 or 4 years old, we went to Prymorsk, [UKR] Speaker 1: and we're walking there, as they're called, where first there's shallow water, and then the beach begins, [UKR] Speaker 1: and we're crossing this bridge, and a man is fishing, and he comes up, 3, maybe 3.5 years old, [UKR] Speaker 1: and says: "So, are the fish biting?" And the man turns around and can't understand who's talking to him, and then looks, and there's this little one standing and saying: "So, are the fish biting?"

00:07:25 [UKR] Speaker 1: Meaning he's communicative, he can find common language with anyone. Truly, he wants to be himself, I'll repeat. [UKR] Speaker 1: He wants to come to my department, he wants to make his own way, build his own career, [UKR] Speaker 1: but whatever he takes on, he does very well, like me, and he tries to do it the best.

00:07:48 [UKR] Speaker 1: That's honest. [UKR] Speaker 2: - Are you proud? [UKR] Speaker 1: - Yes. Of both the older and the younger.

00:07:54 [UKR] Speaker 2: - How do you manage to separate work, where you're colleagues, and the fact that you're father and son? [UKR] Speaker 1: It's very simple here, maximally simple, because at work my relationship with him, with other doctors, is the same. [UKR] Speaker 1: I try not to have, how do I say it badly, favorites, not a lover, somehow differently, somehow single out or not single out. [UKR] Speaker 1: We have a chat where we constantly exchange operation results, discuss cases. [UKR] Speaker 1: And if you operated badly, I say so – badly, whether it's Bohdan, or my doctor, or another doctor, you did this wrong. [UKR] Speaker 1: This is how it should have been done. [UKR] Speaker 1: And when there's such equal treatment, and they know that I will judge not by family ties,

00:08:43 [UKR] Speaker 1: not by who works with me more years, like me, for example, Oleksandr Marchenko, [UKR] Speaker 1: or fewer years I'll single someone out, and another not. [UKR] Speaker 1: For me only objective evaluation criteria, there can't be such sloppy work, [UKR] Speaker 1: only what you must do matters.

00:09:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: Here we have requirements, job descriptions, you must do this and that. [UKR] Speaker 1: That's one thing, for work – come on time, don't leave early, no one leaves, [UKR] Speaker 1: because there's a lot of work, and another thing – perform those intervention stages and perform them well. [UKR] Speaker 1: Today a doctor came, was on duty, did CT control. After CT control an intracerebral hematoma formed. [UKR] Speaker 1: He came, we discussed all these moments with him, and he's worried. I see he's worried, because the person was almost conscious, [UKR] Speaker 1: in a stupor, and such a complication could happen because it's trauma. But he's worried, he's thinking how to do it. [UKR] Speaker 1: After the operation he sent me the CT control, says: "I'll watch him, I'll call the ICU in the evening,

00:09:49 [UKR] Speaker 1: if he needs to be operated on again, I'll come." [UKR] Speaker 1: So at home we communicate as father and son or outside the hospital, [UKR] Speaker 1: at work we communicate as the head of the center and a person who works in this department.

00:10:05 [UKR] Speaker 1: So there are no problems here. [UKR] Speaker 2: Going back to your work, you already mentioned that there are always people waiting in line to consult with you. [UKR] Speaker 2: You're constantly on the phone, either being called, or after surgery they tell you how it went, or people ask something new, and at the same time you also operate regularly.

00:10:28 [UKR] Speaker 2: How do you find the strength, how do you cope with such a pace of work? [UKR] Speaker 1: Honestly, I myself sometimes wonder why, because since 2022 the work has become much more. [UKR] Speaker 1: I already told you that there are half as many doctors, and the work is two, three, sometimes four times more. [UKR] Speaker 1: If you multiply two decreased, four increased, that's a colossal load. [UKR] Speaker 1: But, what I also wanted to say, is that our strongest link is our nurses. [UKR] Speaker 1: If they leave, they only leave where? For maternity leave. To give birth and then return to the department. This is the strongest link unlike doctors. Nurses, almost no one quit for other reasons, they only go on leave, then they all come back.

00:11:20 [UKR] Speaker 1: Strong nurses, I have a strong head nurse Liudmyla Vasylivna Lazarieva, [UKR] Speaker 1: and she also trains the team, you see, young nurses. [UKR] Speaker 1: At one time, when our such, Natalia Shulhina, this is the head nurse,

00:11:35 [RUS] Speaker 1: held competitions for the best nurse,

00:11:39 [UKR] Speaker 1: nurses from our department not only won at Mechnikov hospital level, [UKR] Speaker 1: they were the best nurses in Dnipropetrovsk region. [UKR] Speaker 1: The best nurses, and they participated in the "Best Nurse of Ukraine" competition. [UKR] Speaker 1: Meaning this shows that not only I train young people, my head nurse also trains young people, [UKR] Speaker 1: and we truly represent the department at such a high level. [UKR] Speaker 1: And so I feel more, you could say, drive from the fact that despite providing the highest level care to the wounded, we don't slow down providing care for brain tumors.

00:12:25 [UKR] Speaker 1: On one hand we understand that if we say, we're currently operating on the wounded, go to Kyiv, look for doctors somewhere, God willing the war ends, our path will be overgrown, because they'll say, no, at Mechnikov they operate, they only operate on the wounded, no point going there, but that's not true. [UKR] Speaker 1: So we try, if we need to operate on wounded, we operate on wounded, everyone's warned that your operation may be shifted in time, but if there are no wounded now, we take planned cases, so they come from everywhere.

00:13:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: Even from Lviv, Uzhhorod, Kyiv come those cases where they were refused, they come here and we operate. [UKR] Speaker 1: Truly, it can be hard to consult, you understand that the person came to show CT control, MRI control after surgery. [UKR] Speaker 1: I know everything is fine there, but they want to come and hear my opinion.

00:13:19 [RUS] Speaker 1: They want to hear my opinion.

00:13:21 [UKR] Speaker 1: So you can't say, go away, no need to show, because the person comes, they come as if to God, [UKR] Speaker 1: show the result and you say, live long and happily.

00:13:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: And truly, this helps detect in time when there's a recurrence, continued tumor growth. [UKR] Speaker 1: And just this week I operated on people, whom my professor Masychuk operated on 40 years ago, a woman. [UKR] Speaker 1: Yesterday I operated on a woman who was operated before me 20 years ago. [UKR] Speaker 1: Meaning people come, when there's a recurrence, we detect it in time, help them in time. [UKR] Speaker 1: So even, sometimes, I want to say, I'm tired of consultations, but that doesn't happen. [UKR] Speaker 1: I think that won't happen. What truly gets harder with each day, month, week, is when, well I'm used to being constantly on the phone since 2014. [UKR] Speaker 1: On the phone with my team of doctors, they know they can always call, the phone lies next to me, military neurosurgeons, since 2014 they call.

00:14:27 [UKR] Speaker 1: I'm already used to it, the phone on the lowest sound, I see it ringing, I take the phone, go to the kitchen, [UKR] Speaker 1: without turning on the light, open the refrigerator, find something in the fridge, [UKR] Speaker 1: and while you're looking, they sent you a CT, you analyze, snack on something, ate something. [UKR] Speaker 1: Because such moments happened that I ate and put the empty container back in the fridge, and in the morning my wife discovered this. [UKR] Speaker 1: I understood, so you woke up at night. [UKR] Speaker 1: This isn't hard, I'm used to waking up, consulting, coming back in 5 minutes, I'm already asleep. [UKR] Speaker 1: What's very hard now, when there are Shahed attacks, ballistic attacks, and we have to go down to the basement with my son.

00:15:20 [UKR] Speaker 1: Truly, this exhausts not so much physically, because 3-4 hours of sleep per day is enough for me, everything will be fine. [UKR] Speaker 1: But emotionally it's hard to watch how Sviatoslav reacts to this. [UKR] Speaker 1: It's very hard for Sviatoslav. And in 2022 I offered both my wife and younger son: "Maybe you should go abroad, it would be calmer there, better for you." [UKR] Speaker 1: Both my wife and Sviatoslav, we asked them several more times after that, the answer: "No, we want to stay here, be with you." [UKR] Speaker 1: Although truly, when we're heavily bombed, I forcibly take them to a country house 90 kilometers from the city, [UKR] Speaker 1: so that they're more safe.

00:16:09 [UKR] Speaker 1: Although honestly I'll say, that place where we live, that's exactly where these Shaheds pass, [UKR] Speaker 1: And sometimes in the evening we observe how our helicopters hunt them, two helicopters, they caught this Shahed with their light, they shoot it down,

00:16:31 [UKR] Speaker 1: and we see, like nuclear light, such a big flash, and we observe this too, although before we thought this was the safest place in our country. [UKR] Speaker 2: That's exactly what I also wanted to ask you about, you're a very successful and well-known specialist not only in Ukraine, but also abroad.

00:16:51 [UKR] Speaker 2: I'm sure many of your colleagues abroad would love to work with you and take you closer to them, but you choose to stay here, in Dnipro, and work here. Why? [UKR] Speaker 1: I'll say that I can't do otherwise. I understand that right here, in Dnipro, I'm needed most. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: And now, when we've already operated on more than 2,500 wounded, such severe penetrating head wounds, [UKR] Speaker 1: I understand that thanks to the work of my team, neurosurgeons, thanks to the work of Mechnikov hospital,

00:17:36 [UKR] Speaker 1: starting with our general director, we manage to save them. [UKR] Speaker 1: And since that time, I remember, when the war just started, [UKR] Speaker 1: the general director gathered all of us heads and said, [UKR] Speaker 1: that our task is to do everything so that people survive. [UKR] Speaker 1: That was truly the truth. [UKR] Speaker 1: Then there wasn't such a load as now.

00:18:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: But then, it was 2014, I remember even my first wounded person whom I operated on, [UKR] Speaker 1: I'm friends with him now on Facebook. [UKR] Speaker 1: Extremely severe brain wound, wrapped limb, multiple wounds of the chest, abdominal cavity, Dmytro Kroslianskyi. [UKR] Speaker 1: He miraculously survived. [UKR] Speaker 1: Miraculously survived. It was May 9, 2014. Many operations. Then rehabilitation in Germany. [UKR] Speaker 1: Such a wound. I remember, I remember the photo, when he got married, on a prosthesis he danced a waltz with his wife. [UKR] Speaker 1: I have this video saved. I understand that for such cases one needs to live. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:18:49 [UKR] Speaker 1: And the first few weeks when the war started, we didn't know how to treat these brain wounds. [UKR] Speaker 1: We didn't know. I quickly reviewed all the literature, starting from 1917. [UKR] Speaker 1: World War I, World War II, Vietnam, Lebanon, Iraq, Afghanistan, North Caucasus, first, second North Caucasus campaign. [UKR] Speaker 1: Quickly read and saw that many aspects are not covered. [UKR] Speaker 1: People don't know how this needs to be treated. [UKR] Speaker 1: We had experience treating severe traumatic brain injury, but that's car accidents, falls from height. [UKR] Speaker 1: We implemented the largest experience in Ukraine with modern technologies that are now developing.

00:19:37 [UKR] Speaker 1: this is intracranial pressure monitoring, other moments, but brain wounds, both gunshot and mine-blast, fragment [UKR] Speaker 1: wounds, we had no experience. And so the first 40-50% of wounded I personally operated on. [UKR] Speaker 1: How was it? Then helicopters were still flying, then there was such evacuation, aviation by helicopters. [UKR] Speaker 1: I understood that every evening work ends, I come home at 8 pm and lie down to rest, lie down to sleep, because I know that around 10-11 there will be a phone call, because either a plane or helicopter came to our Dnipropetrovsk airport, it was still Dnipropetrovsk then, now Dnipro, the plane came and these wounded are brought by ambulance to Mechnikov hospital.

00:20:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: Then there was no curfew yet, I knew that I have 2-3 hours to sleep, because at 11 the call and I'd come here. [UKR] Speaker 1: There in that blue room I had a complete set of bed linens, to shave, brush teeth, because I knew the operation could end at 5-6 in the morning, [UKR] Speaker 1: and there was no point returning home, I stayed here, shaved, brushed teeth, took a shower, [UKR] Speaker 1: and at 8 am a new workday began. That's truly how it was. [UKR] Speaker 1: That's 2014, from this everything started, and the first 40 operations I performed independently,

00:21:22 [UKR] Speaker 1: and at this time I continued to teach young people. [UKR] Speaker 1: Then I assisted them, and when I saw that they already operate well themselves, [UKR] Speaker 1: I was already glad that they do these operations very well. [UKR] Speaker 1: And we have such a cycle, we say: do, analyze, if something's wrong, change tactics, do again. [UKR] Speaker 1: Such a cycle constantly, and when already 2,500 of these operations we've refined to the point that my colleagues do operations very quickly

00:21:55 [UKR-NEEDS] у світі оперують. І там молодь, вона вже сотні операцій виконала тих, що навіть в великих клініках вони не

00:22:01 [UKR] Speaker 1: in the world they operate. And there the young people, they've already performed hundreds of operations that even in large clinics they can't [UKR] Speaker 1: collect such a number of wounds in 10 years. But again I say, this is a composite of many moments. [UKR] Speaker 1: First of all, it's a special kind of leadership, that you need to show by your own example, that you take complex cases, as in neuro-oncology, neuro-traumatology. [UKR] Speaker 1: By your own example, that you not only operate, you also conduct scientific work, analyze, write articles, write books, participate in conferences, congresses, symposiums, train young people, your attitude toward patients, toward their relatives. This is also very important, you need to respect people.

00:22:57 [UKR] Speaker 1: This is teamwork at Mechnikov hospital. I respect, all heads of centers respect me, because 65% are combined wounded, when it's not just the head. [UKR] Speaker 1: It's limbs, torso, face, eyes. We work together. We have very close interaction with our anesthesiologists, very close interaction. [UKR] Speaker 1: That is, these characteristics, teamwork, and also work at Mechnikov hospital, this is worth a lot. [UKR] Speaker 1: Why? Because, for example, I remember, 2014, when I didn't have a microscope. [UKR] Speaker 1: Now we have three microscopes standing. Before there wasn't a single microscope. [UKR] Speaker 1: And I tell the general director Serhii Anatoliyovych, I need a microscope.

00:23:44 [UKR] Speaker 1: We started collecting funds, but we collected 100 thousand hryvnias. [UKR] Speaker 1: and they told us that it costs 150 thousand euros. [UKR] Speaker 1: And Serhii Anatoliyovych says: "I have an acquaintance, one of the network leaders in Dnipro. [UKR] Speaker 1: He said he'd make me a helicopter pad on the 9th floor of Mechnikov hospital [UKR] Speaker 1: and buy me my own helicopter." [UKR] Speaker 1: And Serhii Ryzhenko says: "I don't need a helicopter, I need a modern microscope." [UKR] Speaker 1: And he turned to me: "Andrii Hryhorovych, what microscope do you need?"

00:24:22 [RUS] Speaker 1: I said.

00:24:23 [UKR] Speaker 1: And he himself went to Germany, chose this microscope. [UKR] Speaker 1: It ended up, I'll say, being half the price. [UKR] Speaker 1: It needed to be assembled there for 3-4 months. [UKR] Speaker 1: He arranged that in a month it would be at Mechnikov hospital. [UKR] Speaker 1: And this microscope Opmi Vario 700, Carl Zeiss, Viktor Karachun, [UKR] Speaker 1: This is ATB-market. Thanks to him we worked on it for almost these 10 years. [UKR] Speaker 1: We only used collected funds to buy bulbs, because they're rated for 500 hours, [UKR] Speaker 1: but thanks to this microscope we saved all lives both civilian and military wounded, and with tumors. [UKR] Speaker 1: Then a microscope appeared that the Ministry of Health bought us, thanks to minister Viktor Liashko.

00:25:13 [UKR] Speaker 1: And now we have a Mitaka microscope, this is a gift from the people of Japan. [UKR] Speaker 1: We have three operating rooms, and all these microscopes are engaged. [UKR] Speaker 1: And what we were the first, possibly in the world, to introduce into practice, we not only operate on tumors under the microscope, [UKR] Speaker 1: in complex cases of brain wounds we operate under the microscope. [UKR] Speaker 1: And doctors invite, they really invite foreign clinics to come, but I said, while the war is going, I think after the war it will be even better. [UKR] Speaker 1: I'm staying here, staying together with my family, with my wife, with my older and younger son. [UKR] Speaker 1: This is truly an example, because nurses, when there's shelling, we all hide in the corridor, sometimes they run and cry.

00:26:06 [UKR] Speaker 1: They're shaking like this, they got scared, and I calm them, say, for example, Tanya or Yulia. [UKR] Speaker 1: Do you see the head crying? No. Calm down, everything's fine, it'll end now, we'll continue our work. [UKR] Speaker 1: And it really works. When they see that the head didn't go anywhere, he stayed in place, [UKR] Speaker 1: that he works and work goes on. You've seen what severe patients we have, no one cries. [UKR] Speaker 1: No one cries, they all hold on, and truly I'm proud of my team of doctors, nurses, junior nurses,

00:26:41 [UKR] Speaker 1: because I consider them the best. That's it. [UKR] Speaker 2: - Thad earlier mentioned the heart surgeon from New York Michael DeBakey. [UKR] Speaker 2: He shared with you what he said yesterday and today during lunch, [UKR] Speaker 2: that that surgeon said that when he wasn't in New York,

00:27:00 [UKR] Speaker 2: where this whole main center of heart surgery is, [UKR] Speaker 2: this gave him more opportunity to work not like others. [UKR] Speaker 2: And find some methods of his own. [UKR] Speaker 2: You just said that you also do complex operations under the microscope, [UKR] Speaker 2: which usually aren't done. And I wanted to know, is this something only you do, or is this some general hospital policy,

00:27:27 [UKR] Speaker 2: because this is, for example, Dnipro, not Kyiv, and there's somewhere more opportunity to be a bit more inventive. [UKR] Speaker 1: Michael DeBakey, I know, I read about this famous vascular surgeon. Truly, I've read many books on surgery, how heart operations were done, how the first heart transplant was performed. [UKR] Speaker 1: And truly, I'm fascinated by the history of medicine, when someone first did a surgical intervention. [UKR] Speaker 1: And yesterday we were talking, when there was no electricity, with Alex Valadka, we recalled last year in English we watched the TV series "The Knick", Knickerbocker Hospital, [UKR] Speaker 1: this is 1907 in New York, when you watch and see yourself in the image of that doctor, surgeon, who then did those surgical interventions.

00:28:24 [UKR] Speaker 1: We also said then with Alex that now you can use ChatGPT or the internet to find any article and read this article. [UKR] Speaker 1: Before this wasn't there, you only had to get this journal from Europe and read it. [UKR] Speaker 1: On one hand, when you face a problem, you don't know how to solve it, you looked in the literature, and there's no solution to this question. [UKR] Speaker 1: First of all, you must study all the literature. [UKR] Speaker 1: Perhaps someone before you already found this solution, and you don't need to reinvent the wheel. [UKR] Speaker 1: But many such solutions, especially in treating brain wounds, they emerged for the first time. [UKR] Speaker 1: Many such wounds were never described before.

00:29:09 [UKR] Speaker 1: And when you face this, you already have some quite large baggage of knowledge. [UKR] Speaker 1: you've studied all the literature, you have experience of more than five thousand operations, you can already propose something of your own. [UKR] Speaker 1: For this you, first, must have the level of highest category, Doctor of Sciences, Professor, and second, you must be head of department. [UKR] Speaker 1: That is, you make the decision, you're responsible for it. [UKR] Speaker 1: And you yourself must perform this operation. [UKR] Speaker 1: If you performed and the person has a complication or died, you're responsible. [UKR] Speaker 1: But this is the path of all pioneers who go first. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:00:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: Everything worked out, we did a second, third, fourth, fifth, and then colleagues started doing them,

00:00:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: Everything worked out, we did a second, third, fourth, fifth, and then colleagues started doing them, [UKR] Speaker 1: then we share, and these operations start being performed in other clinics. [UKR] Speaker 1: It's said that this was a long time ago, and today there was a conference, [UKR] Speaker 1: at this conference I hear that a methodology of early exhaustive surgery was proposed, [UKR] Speaker 1: maxillofacial surgery, ophthalmology, although we were the first to prove [UKR] Speaker 1: that this methodology works. When we see photographs from our book that are just inserted, we don't have this, how to say, plagiarism, [UKR] Speaker 1: I treated this very calmly, but I see that it helped someone study these illustrations, the stages of the operation, and do it so that the person survived.

00:00:50 [UKR] Speaker 1: Great. So I never chase fame. It catches up on its own, but really, the first time it's very hard to make a decision. [UKR] Speaker 1: You don't sleep, you think all night about how to do it better, when there's time. With wounds, as a rule, there isn't this time. [UKR] Speaker 1: I want to say that I'm lucky to work together with the endovascular team, with the endovascular center, where we went today, where doctors operate through vessels. [UKR] Speaker 1: Because many patients with head wounds need precisely combined operations. Both this kind of operation and open surgery. This doesn't exist in Ukraine. [UKR] Speaker 1: In the world, it's even hard to count on one hand the centers where they can do this.

00:01:37 [UKR] Speaker 1: And here's the team of Yuriy Vitaliyovych Cherednichenko, Vadym Perepelitsa, Andriy Mirashnichenko, [UKR] Speaker 1: and the fact that we work with them allows us to do unique things. [UKR] Speaker 1: And plus thanks to the help of American colleagues, Rock Armonda, Alex Volodko, they and we have something to work with. [UKR] Speaker 1: Today they closed an aneurysm, the value of this stent is thousands of dollars. [UKR] Speaker 1: If in hryvnias, there are hundreds, Cargo 200-Cargo 300 thousand hryvnias, these devices cost. [UKR] Speaker 1: But thanks to this help we can save these wounded. [UKR] Speaker 1: And wounded from all of Ukraine, especially military, who don't have these consumables, [UKR] Speaker 1: they're directed to Mechnikov Hospital. [UKR] Speaker 1: And our position, I said, already since 2014,

00:02:28 [UKR] Speaker 1: and the position of our general director, he says: [UKR] Speaker 1: "We must help everyone." [UKR] Speaker 1: And then, when a microscope was needed, I turned to the general director, [UKR] Speaker 1: he found a microscope. [UKR] Speaker 1: I say: "Serhiy Anatoliyovych, we need another microscope." [UKR] Speaker 1: He turned to the Minister of Health, we have a microscope. [UKR] Speaker 1: "We need a good ventilator." He found it. [UKR] Speaker 1: "And we need an MRI, one and a half Tesla. Please." [UKR] Speaker 1: "At a modern level we need three Tesla." [UKR] Speaker 1: And he activates all his connections, all his contacts: [UKR] Speaker 1: regional council, regional civil administration, [UKR] Speaker 1: Ministry of Health, volunteers, and they help us. [UKR] Speaker 1: Because the hospital, I reported today, [UKR] Speaker 1: at the Congress of military surgeons-anesthesiologists received more than 50 thousand wounded, traumatized from Eastern Ukraine, starting from 2014. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:03:22 [UKR] Speaker 1: More than 50 thousand, and these 50 thousand need to be operated on. [UKR] Speaker 1: And yesterday the head of medical service with a brain tumor came, and he asked me, Andriy Hryhorovych, how much will it cost, the operation? [UKR] Speaker 1: I say, believe me, not only you, as head of medical service, every serviceman with us receives free treatment. [UKR] Speaker 1: How do we do this? These are already our questions. That is, we, for example, titanium plates to do cranioplasty, looked for volunteers. [UKR] Speaker 1: Many volunteers, both Tetyana Huba and everyone bought us titanium plates and screws. [UKR] Speaker 1: Then, as it happens, they ran out of breath, because it's very much.

00:04:08 [UKR] Speaker 1: There were times that we bought titanium plates and titanium screws at our own expense. [UKR] Speaker 1: Even neighbors in my building live, they say, Andriy Hryhorovych, we want to help. [UKR] Speaker 1: We collected money. Some bought diapers, I brought them to the department. [UKR] Speaker 1: Others say, and we want to help, what operations do you do? I say, cranioplasty. [UKR] Speaker 1: If we want to buy titanium screws, let us give you money.

00:04:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: I say, no, you don't need to give me money, I'll order, an invoice will come, you pay it, and we'll install titanium plates and screws. [UKR] Speaker 1: Only a week or two ago the hospital received these titanium plates and screws centrally. [UKR] Speaker 1: But before that we looked for ways so that military people, these are our defenders, our heroes, so they wouldn't pay money. [UKR] Speaker 1: This is for wounds and for brain tumors. Many brain tumors in servicemen, unfortunately, are discovered. [UKR] Speaker 1: Both Armed Forces and Security Service of Ukraine, and National Guard, they come, and we operate on brain tumors. [UKR] Speaker 1: We operate for free, because we know that these people are our heroes. [UKR] Speaker 1: The maximum that I have as honorarium is grenade launchers, shell casings, shells, they're already fired, but if they weren't fired, I'd have to make a declaration, because the amount of this equipment they bring me, downed Shaheds.

00:05:33 [RUS] Speaker 1: I say: "Where's this Shahed?" Bohdan says: "Can I take it?"

00:05:36 [UKR] Speaker 1: "Take this Shahed, you'll have it at home." [UKR] Speaker 1: They bring me FPV drones. [UKR] Speaker 1: In the neighboring office there's an FPV drone, a working FPV drone.

00:05:43 [RUS] Speaker 1: These are gifts.

00:05:44 [UKR] Speaker 1: Such gifts I'll take. [UKR] Speaker 1: Really, they say, from the bottom of their hearts, either the patients themselves, or their relatives. [UKR] Speaker 1: Before the war these were gifts of icons. [UKR] Speaker 1: You see the icons in the office in the cabinet.

00:06:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: Most of them are either embroidered with beads, and this is handmade. [UKR] Speaker 1: Made by either the patients themselves, or their relatives then went to church, [UKR] Speaker 1: blessed them and brought them to me many icons both at home and many icons here. [UKR] Speaker 1: Therefore this is more than gratitude, because thanks to this I feel [UKR] Speaker 1: that I have support from above, and this supports not only me, [UKR] Speaker 1: it supports my family, my children, gives us strength, health to work. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: Therefore this is more than just, like this handicraft, that you do something with your hands, no, this is more, this is your message. [UKR] Speaker 1: And as Alex said today, on rounds in the ward we operated on a woman, complex tear,

00:06:47 [UKR] Speaker 1: And the daughter, she already has three grandchildren and two great-grandchildren, and she said: "Thank you for your golden hands."

00:07:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: And Alex says: "It's thanks to the fact that," confirming his words, "God through your hands gives people life, gives people hope." [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 2: A few more questions, literally, we're already finishing soon. [UKR] Speaker 2: What we noticed, and I personally, because I listened to your consultations actively, [UKR] Speaker 2: you find your own approach for each person, your words, your jokes, your explanations,

00:07:30 [UKR] Speaker 2: and by this you explain everything very simply to people, you can even calm them when needed. [UKR] Speaker 2: How do you do this, how do you find this professional something that develops in you over the years?

00:07:42 [UKR] Speaker 2: How does this happen with you and why is it important? [UKR] Speaker 1: First, such a number of consultations, as you see, if there are more than 5 thousand operations, then 20 thousand consultations. [UKR] Speaker 1: I calculated that if 1,400 patients were treated in the department per year, and now 2,300, then even if we take 2 thousand, [UKR] Speaker 1: over 25 years that's already 50 thousand patients that passed through, and on rounds I see each patient, [UKR] Speaker 1: and each patient, their information gets into my head. [UKR] Speaker 1: I already said that in my head it's like "artificial intelligent." [UKR] Speaker 1: That is, if I see some picture, it analyzes and immediately gives me the answer, [UKR] Speaker 1: because I've already seen this. [UKR] Speaker 1: Especially since we now have chats, and in these chats all information is dropped: [UKR] Speaker 1: CT, MRI, before surgery, after surgery. [UKR] Speaker 1: When a person enters, I scan them, like a psychologist, I understand what mood they came in, how they relate to themselves, to their illness,

00:08:45 [UKR] Speaker 1: how they relate to doctors, how they relate to me, maybe they waited in line 2-3 hours, and they're already nervous, [UKR] Speaker 1: and they need to go home, you need to immediately scan, understand, and after this, you know, you don't even need to talk a lot, [UKR] Speaker 1: there are two or three sentences, and you see the person's appropriate reaction, you start talking to them, [UKR] Speaker 1: how they answer your first question, you understand what key you need to go forward in. [UKR] Speaker 1: This comes with experience, with years, and sometimes my colleagues, I sit them down, I say: "Learn." [UKR] Speaker 1: Especially learn to talk with patients, with their relatives before surgery.

00:09:32 [UKR] Speaker 1: The more time you spend before surgery with the patient, the better it will be if the surgery ends with some complication, or, God forbid, a fatal outcome. [UKR] Speaker 1: Before surgery you shouldn't spare time, tell everything, [UKR] Speaker 1: say: "Ask questions," "And what other relatives do you have? Let them come." [UKR] Speaker 1: Because there were such situations, they're not frequent, rare cases, but when I have such a flow every day [UKR] Speaker 1: operations, operations, operations, I operate on a complex tumor, fifth category of complexity, [UKR] Speaker 1: and I ask the attending physicians: "Did you talk with the relatives?" [UKR] Speaker 1: "No, we thought you talked." "Well you're so confident in me that there'll be a good result of the operation, but you know that there can be such, such, such, such complications.

00:10:18 [UKR] Speaker 1: Let's make this a rule." Here's this young doctor who came. Before the operation the day before, mandatory. [UKR] Speaker 1: Here the patient sits with me, the relative, I tell them the surgery plan, complications, everything, and they ask questions. [UKR] Speaker 1: Then, if a person dies after surgery, there will be much fewer questions. Really, people die. [UKR] Speaker 1: If per year I operate only on tumors, 180-186 brain tumors, of this number 1-2-3 each year differently die. [UKR] Speaker 1: Not always from neurosurgical operation. Sometimes it's pneumonia, old age, sometimes it's pulmonary embolism, [UKR] Speaker 1: and even coronavirus. If this person dies within the first month after surgery,

00:11:06 [UKR] Speaker 1: this counts as postoperative mortality, it doesn't have to be hemorrhage, [UKR] Speaker 1: incompletely removed tumor or ischemic strokes, or damage to some critical structures, [UKR] Speaker 1: but these cases exist, and these are the most difficult cases, therefore over the years it's hard for me to go to the morgue, [UKR] Speaker 1: pathology. Although I understand that after operations you need to go, if a person died, for autopsy, [UKR] Speaker 1: but over the years this becomes harder. [UKR] Speaker 1: It's harder still with planned operations. [UKR] Speaker 1: If we're talking about cases of head wounds, this is very difficult. [UKR] Speaker 1: Why? Because every day, my working day starts with rounds in the ICU, [UKR] Speaker 1: there, where wounded heroes lie, wounded fighters.

00:11:55 [UKR] Speaker 1: Every day I see severely wounded fighters, [UKR] Speaker 1: most of them the same age as my older son. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: In some cases I understand that, despite the fact that we did everything, [UKR] Speaker 1: the person will die, and they die. [UKR] Speaker 1: And it's very hard to talk with relatives when I know that the person will die. [UKR] Speaker 1: Then, when the person died, they come to me as to the head. [UKR] Speaker 1: This can't be conveyed in words, it's better to do 10 complex operations than to talk with relatives. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: Therefore I don't like to go to the cemetery, which is studded with flags of our heroes. [UKR] Speaker 1: because this is very, very, very, we only when we took Sviatoslav, stopped there near Cold Ravine,

00:12:42 [UKR] Speaker 1: there are burials, beautiful graves, 20-30 graves, very beautiful, honor and respect to the fallen heroes, [UKR] Speaker 1: but it's so hard, emotionally, that after this 2-3 days you can't recover.

00:13:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: maybe that's why you want to do everything, if a person has even one chance in a thousand, so they survive. [UKR] Speaker 1: And I say that there are many such cases when by all canons of medicine the person should have died, [UKR] Speaker 1: but he's young, and we did everything necessary, and he survives. [UKR] Speaker 1: And therefore mortality indicators with us are better than before, when reported in such journals, [UKR] Speaker 1: as in "Neurosurgery," "Journal of Neurosurgery."

00:13:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: Therefore maybe the Lord God himself helps our defenders survive. Honestly. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 2: A question that Dede loves to ask everyone, when we're talking with you now, [UKR] Speaker 2: what does it mean for you to be Ukrainian now, to be a person from Ukraine?

00:13:47 [UKR] Speaker 2: Wait a moment.

00:13:58 [RUS] Speaker 1: Now I'm a little emotional.

00:14:13 [UKR] Speaker 1: Actually it's a great honor. [UKR] Speaker 1: It's a great honor to be Ukrainian, to be here, and even greater honor to be abroad. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: When we were abroad, I wasn't afraid, on the contrary I wanted to show.

00:14:46 [RUS] Speaker 1: maybe this is where it ended

00:15:00 [RUS] Speaker 1: yes help me

00:15:26 Speaker 2: *cough*

00:16:00 Speaker 3: laughing if she didn't, she was not a part of her sound projection.

00:16:04 Speaker 2: I just think that I think, like, I want to keep it in for, like, two hours.

00:16:10 Speaker 1: Okay, we're back up here with your battery. Speaker 3: I had my choice 90, but I would say 30, 45. Speaker 3: I have a few more things, but you please, I haven't gone over the list,

00:16:21 Speaker 3: so you may have already hit most of them.

00:16:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll start doing it. Speaker 3: the colorist trying to get the light in there? Speaker 3: - Yeah, all right. Speaker 3: - Yeah, all right. Speaker 3: - Obviously with one light, Speaker 3: there's not a ton of what you're here. Speaker 3: - It's okay. Speaker 2: - I can see if I can paint it a little bit, but.

00:17:14 Speaker 2: - No, 'cause that's gonna just wrap his face. Speaker 3: - Okay. Speaker 3: Okay. Speaker 3: You know, people will get cold. Speaker 3: All right, so let's get where we can Speaker 3: and we'll get out of here.

00:17:34 Speaker 3: Sorry about that. Speaker 2: So, uh, Speaker 2: um, Speaker 2: Can you do it on Friday? Speaker 2: Sure. Speaker 2: His home? Speaker 2: Yeah? Speaker 2: Yeah? Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I was wondering, like, never mind, I don't know if we, yes, we can do it Friday Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I was wondering, like, never mind, I don't know if we, yes, we can do it Friday

00:18:20 Speaker 3: there. Speaker 3: I was just writing things that I wanted to make sure he might have talked about while Speaker 3: you were going. Speaker 3: So it's... Speaker 3: Bye. Speaker 3: Okay.

00:18:53 Speaker 3: We should get back to where we were and do one or two more questions, okay?

00:19:14 [RUS] Speaker 1: Again a question.

00:19:17 [UKR] Speaker 2: What does it mean for you to be Ukrainian now, a person from Ukraine? [UKR] Speaker 1: Now, especially when a person who carries such an honorable mission and calls themselves Ukrainian, in a terrorist country, the Russian Federation, this causes a desire in people to destroy you, simply destroy, kill, wipe you off the face of the earth. [UKR] Speaker 1: you understand even more how important it is to preserve this, to preserve identity, [UKR] Speaker 1: and so that your children are Ukrainians and most importantly live in a free, independent, sovereign state. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:20:02 [UKR] Speaker 1: This is very important. And I feel this, especially when I went to the Congress together with my team [UKR] Speaker 1: with general director Serhiy Vyzhenko in Vienna. [UKR] Speaker 1: We all took pride in the fact that, first, I always try to wear something with clothing [UKR] Speaker 1: that shows I'm Ukrainian. [UKR] Speaker 1: This is either the pattern on my tie, or a tie where there are flags of Ukraine, or it's written: [UKR] Speaker 1: or a Cossack is depicted, when people see me, they immediately start looking, from where. [UKR] Speaker 1: There it's written "Ukraine," I'm proud, I show even more that I'm from Ukraine. [UKR] Speaker 1: This is first. Second, we tell about Ukraine, we show maps of Ukraine,

00:20:52 [UKR] Speaker 1: here is Mechnikov Hospital, Dnipro, and we show videos of the rashists' atrocities, [UKR] Speaker 1: how they bomb the maternity hospital in Kamianske. [UKR] Speaker 1: I remember now how Diana, 23 years old, died, [UKR] Speaker 1: and another girl, 27 years old, was delivered to Mechnikov Hospital, [UKR] Speaker 1: and we performed angiography on her, [UKR] Speaker 1: and I with my team operated on her pregnant. [UKR] Speaker 1: I remember that dialogue, the next day, [UKR] Speaker 1: the general director, we came to the polytrauma ICU, [UKR] Speaker 1: and she says, thank you, thank you, you saved two lives, [UKR] Speaker 1: you saved my life and my child's life. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: This video I show to everyone. [UKR] Speaker 1: I show a video where a wounded fighter on the fifth day, his right side is paralyzed,

00:21:38 [UKR] Speaker 1: he can't speak, but he writes with his left hand on a tablet: [UKR] Speaker 1: "Glory to Ukraine!" He misses the second letter "L," gets a little nervous, he realizes he missed a letter, [UKR] Speaker 1: but he writes: "Glory to Ukraine!" And really tears appear in the eyes. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: I show all this. They give me 15 minutes for a report. 5 minutes I talk about Ukraine, I show about the rashists' atrocities, [UKR] Speaker 1: and I show Churchill's last words: "Never give in, never give in." [UKR] Speaker 1: And after these words people stand and applaud standing. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: This is what it means to be Ukrainian.

00:22:26 [UKR] Speaker 1: And I even paid extra for a suitcase 50 kg in order to take flags with me, and also take Petrykivka painting. [UKR] Speaker 1: I from the stage at the end tell: this is a gift to the professor who invited me. [UKR] Speaker 1: And a large plate, about 40 or 50 centimeters, and there was a map of Ukraine painted. [UKR] Speaker 1: On this map of Ukraine there's also Crimea, and Donetsk, and Luhansk regions, they're there. [UKR] Speaker 1: The whole world sees that this is Ukraine, it's indivisible, in any case these borders will be preserved. [UKR] Speaker 1: I give a flag, a flag with a trident, and we unfold this flag.

00:23:17 [UKR] Speaker 1: This was first at the Congress of European Neurosurgeons in Vienna, the flag unfolded and a photograph on the whole stage. [UKR] Speaker 1: The same photo exists from the Congress of Neurological Surgeons in Los Angeles. [UKR] Speaker 1: Together Alex Volodko, Rock Armonda, Hryhoriy Havryliuk, also a native Ukrainian, Randy Bell, we unfolded this flag and we showed. [UKR] Speaker 1: And also such pride fills me that we gave a flag to Rock Armonda at one of my reports. [UKR] Speaker 1: This was given to him by the Security Service of Ukraine, special sector Alpha. These are the ones who created and implemented the operation "Spider Web." [VO CANDIDATE]

00:24:05 [UKR] Speaker 1: And there it's written on this Spider Web: "Life to the Fatherland - Honor to No One."

00:24:17 Speaker 1: And I translate for them: "The life to Motherland, Honor, No One."

00:24:27 [UKR] Speaker 1: This is what it means to be Ukrainian.

00:24:31 [UKR] Speaker 2: What will the world need to learn from Ukraine and why do people need to care about and think about Ukraine now? [UKR] Speaker 1: Many things to learn. Being Ukrainian, I was in Europe, was in the USA, but such respect, such attitude I haven't seen. [UKR] Speaker 1: I was, for example, in Los Angeles, and I was afraid to walk the street in the evening. [UKR] Speaker 1: They warned me: "The sun sets, stay in the hotel." [UKR] Speaker 1: In Ukraine even during the war a girl can walk calmly on the street at 9-10-11 in the evening. [UKR] Speaker 1: We don't have such areas that go here, don't go here.

00:25:20 [UKR] Speaker 1: But Americans tell me: "Andriy Hryhorovych, we come to you, our wife says: 'Stay in the hotel, don't leave the hotel, they'll kill you, kidnap you, shoot you.'

00:25:30 [UKR] Speaker 1: We stayed with you? No, it's scarier with us. We have a scarier world than you have, even during the war."

00:25:39 [RUS] Speaker 1: This is why you need to learn to respect each other.

00:25:43 [UKR] Speaker 1: Yes, we violate traffic rules and have accidents, but war forges the best in a person. [UKR] Speaker 1: The level of mortality, violations of law and order and everything else decreases. [UKR] Speaker 1: The best traits of a person are forged. [UKR] Speaker 1: this is what you should learn. This is first of all to be human. [UKR] Speaker 1: And you ask, why do people need to be afraid for Ukraine? For Ukraine, I think, you don't need to be afraid. [UKR] Speaker 1: Ukraine will stand. They need, Europeans and European countries, to learn to worry about themselves. Why? [UKR] Speaker 1: Because we show: a dam that holds back a flood of water. A flood, actually of terror, sadism, genocide, of the rashists. [VO CANDIDATE]

00:26:37 [UKR] Speaker 1: And this is Ukraine. If Ukraine breaks through, next will be Europe. Europe will simply be washed away. They're not ready for war. [UKR] Speaker 1: not ready completely, and the United States isn't ready for war. And this is what Rock Armonda says. [UKR] Speaker 1: In each of his reports he says, learn while there's time, we're not ready for war. [UKR] Speaker 1: This war can be with anyone, with China, with other countries.

00:27:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: This can be war, but if we have to fight, we're not ready, [UKR] Speaker 1: we must use this time for preparation. [UKR] Speaker 1: Therefore they need to be afraid not for Ukraine, but for themselves. [UKR] Speaker 1: And understand that if they don't help Ukraine now, no one will help them. They'll simply be washed away. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: Washed away. And therefore the hybrid war that has already begun, it's already going. And Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, all countries, [UKR] Speaker 1: drones fly there, they violate airspace, they're simply testing. [UKR] Speaker 1: And what will the response be? If there's no response, the next will be escalation. [UKR] Speaker 1: we'll do even worse, we'll do even worse. Therefore I think everything will be Ukraine. [UKR] Speaker 1: What I wanted to say, that actually Rock Armonda was the first who opened a window to Dnipro to Mechnikov Hospital.

00:27:54 [UKR] Speaker 1: Precisely in our neurosurgery, a neurosurgeon who wasn't afraid, came here to us,

00:28:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: Together with his assistant Ivan Bezkaravaynyy came with a walkie-talkie, they're military people, [UKR] Speaker 1: they tell us: "We took a walkie-talkie, for what? In order to communicate at the airport, so we don't worry that we can get lost." [UKR] Speaker 1: When they came, they gave these walkie-talkies to my older and younger sons, and they play war in the countryside. [UKR] Speaker 1: They run around and transmit to each other by walkie-talkie, and I want these walkie-talkies to be needed only in peaceful life. [UKR] Speaker 1: But they come, they help with many consumables, instruments, technologies, and most importantly - their support. [UKR] Speaker 1: When they're present at our operational meetings, and my nurses, doctors see that Americans aren't afraid of shelling, aren't afraid of rockets, Shaheds.

00:28:50 [UKR] Speaker 1: They came here, they're with us, they understand that the world hasn't left them. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: People from distant America, professors, neurosurgeons, and one head of department, and another head of department, [UKR] Speaker 1: they spend their vacation and their own money on spending this vacation, in quotation marks vacation, in Mechnikov Hospital, [UKR] Speaker 1: together with us, in operating rooms, in ICUs, saving heroes. [VO CANDIDATE] [UKR] Speaker 1: Therefore we're not left alone, and most interesting, that help comes not from where Europe is close, but from where it's far, a trans-Atlantic flight needs to be made,

00:29:28 [UKR] Speaker 1: that people come and they show by their example how you need to help.

00:29:34 [UKR] Speaker 2: Dede here has a whole list of questions, but we'll still be refueling and will continue, probably, on Friday, so we don't delay anymore.

00:29:43 [UKR] Speaker 1: And on Friday when do you plan? [UKR] Speaker 2: Well not here, maybe at your home, when you're there.

00:29:51 [UKR] Speaker 1: At home I just, on Friday we have another operation with Alex,

00:00:00 [RUS-NEEDS] Солицы

00:00:28 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Солицы [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Даже на сковородке. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] В Америке приехали и в студии. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ребята.

00:00:43 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И вот вся, вся грудь. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Они еще в порноиндустрии готовят? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я знаю точно. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Откуда я знаю? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Вы мне ее и так отбили. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Мало того, что девочка идет, она с обратным развитием. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Мало того, что девочка идет, она с обратным развитием. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Она молодеет. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Она не стареет, она молодеет. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Когда все лучше, лучше и лучше. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Вы не стимулируете?

00:01:23 No.

00:01:24 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Потому что мы стимулируем ее постоянно. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Вы ее у вас отбили. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Среди молодежи она развела среди королевиков. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Квартира Барталомэ, Андрей Григорьевич, посреди. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я уже не знаю, я сегодня кучу. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Это такое вродеще, ну честно, ну бобил. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Герлы, иди сюда. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Герлы, сюда. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Два Никита. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Иди за ним. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ну, ты что, другой раз. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Сыр, земли, и то форелли. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Андрюша, ты хотел форелли?

00:01:57 fish Wow

00:02:00 Ukraan Too much I'm going to take a bite.

00:02:57 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Может быть, 10-10 часов в день, 4-10 часов, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] и 500 часов в день. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это, если вы хотите, чтобы вы

00:03:27 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Это слабаки, но позабираю.

00:04:58 The Press: The Press:

00:05:16 The Press:

00:05:20 You know, we want to film you either doing that or --

00:05:28 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Никита, Никит, тебе светлое пиво?

00:05:30 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Смотри, у нас же это, главный пив по тарелке. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Светлое пиво. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Пиво тебе, темное и светлое. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это, мансий, способ, начать день.

00:05:44 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я заказал, сейчас тарелки. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Три светлое, три темное. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я, одна темное, приятного. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Светлая.

00:06:06 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Возь [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вареники с варенья

00:06:59 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Порк тоже, это порк тоже. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А это типа шампур, покажи шампур. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Покажи шампур.

00:07:10 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Это у нас мировой эксперт.

00:07:14 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Порк. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Да, да, да, да, да. [RUS] Thank you! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Санкоррежи, это как его? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Скажи, скажи, томат...

00:07:29 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Скажи, что томат типа соленья.

00:07:33 [RUS] Сол... [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] О, да, да, я пробовал это на первый день, когда я здесь, но это немного слишком солдат.

00:07:48 Too far gone from me, too.

00:08:33 [RUS] - Да он же в "Edmedic

00:09:15 [RUS-NEEDS] Украинский язык.

00:09:24 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Украинский язык.

00:09:58 I don't drink alcohol anymore.

00:10:13 If I were drinking I would have that for sure, but not anymore.

00:10:21 Not had enough. Wait, do you want to wear one? Hang on. - Actually, if you're putting it on, hold on, - Actually, if you're putting it on, hold on, if you're putting it on, use this one. Magnet. This one's a magnet. - This one's a magnet. - I know, I understand. - Okay, well, all right.

00:10:56 - Okay. - Sure, yeah. Yeah, it's okay, but actually, here's what we'll do. Hold on.

00:00:00 [RUS-NEEDS] - Надо попробовать, это первый раз.

00:00:02 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Надо попробовать, это первый раз. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Вот у муравейник вот, смотри, у нас стоит. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Видел муравейник? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Конечно, там тебе куплю вода.

00:00:37 Here I'll put that on.

00:00:45 I like the filmmaker. Okay. Thank you. I'll have it.

00:01:03 Let me see here. Can you get one with this, that button, and just hold it down? Yeah. Can you fit Bogdan in here? Bogdan, you wanna hop in? One more, you wanna fit in?

00:01:36 There you go.

00:01:55 It feels like he's getting it. There you go.

00:02:00 Thank you.

00:02:05 Let me see. Normal. Check. All right. If not, we'll get Nikita to do it. Normal. Normal.

00:02:22 Hang on. That's my fault. We can edit it here. Let me give one more. My problem, my fault. My fault. There we go. Let's do 60 and then we're gonna go... There we go. And then, let's just see. Yeah. It was my fault. It was my fault. Alright.

00:03:00 Here I'll show you. I'll show you. Oh my goodness.

00:03:09 Alright. Come on in. Good boy, good boy. Good boy, good boy. My economy. I've aged a decade now. Right, right. Alright. Yeah, yeah. Yep.

00:03:57 Logan Logan and no no no no picture your picture hey do you want me to set it so it can get us all in focus actually hand me okay focus on Alex sorry yeah you can like hey Nick Nick there's a there's a there's a second camera over there that's a little bigger. Yeah, it's bigger, it's wider, I'll set it for you.

00:04:45 Oh man, that's what I'm looking for. No, it should be sitting there. Do I have it here?

00:05:03 No? Not just underneath the bag there?

00:05:10 Hmm. Okay. Oh, that's not even the one I was thinking.

00:05:19 There's a different one, but this one you can... Here, I'll... You have very tasty.

00:05:51 Yeah, it's a different one I'm looking for because this lens isn't wide enough.

00:05:57 There should be another camera over there.

00:06:00 Maybe here. I know, I've got this bag. Yes, yes, there you go. Thank you. All right. All right.

00:06:13 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] а не на тому очень жестко либо я один раз ходил мне хватило на всю жизнь а больше [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] только я захочу наркотирис какой-то прям такой мощный

00:06:30 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] но мы сначала пошли в минутку там травматологи такое устроили они тоже праздновали выпуск интернатуры [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] у нас трое выпускалось, а травматологов выпускалось через 15 лет [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] но они вышли с бокалами, я говорю: "мы бокалы не вернем" [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] ну, там хуже что происходило [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] мы пошли в гамбри, ну смотри Григорьевич, мы все такие, вери кошер, вери офисалити

00:06:56 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] потом пошли в минутку, в минутки зарядились, а потом уже поехали танцевать в оптимир

00:07:09 Hang on.

00:07:23 That should be good. And that's that button there. All right now now everybody you can Well one more

00:07:52 You can get closer with that one yeah

00:07:54 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Отсюда сразу на бой? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Нет, завтра Алекс уезжает. Они уезжают в понедельник. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Никита, сидите, они тоже садят. - А где будут? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Завтра на работе? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Приходят, да? - А, да. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я думаю, они сейчас прямо сразу рации нападут. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я это предпочтаю. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Садитесь, я тебя садят. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Так, не есть мы. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ха-ха-ха. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ты ладно.

00:08:21 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Никита, сидите.

00:08:31 One more. One more.

00:08:37 Thank you. There you go. Cool.

00:08:53 Can I... Water. Water.

00:09:00 Water. Yeah.

00:09:09 Yes, please. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah.

00:09:21 Here, you want to film with it? Just taking some pictures. Is it good? Yeah, good. And then there's this one with a manual lens. So you need to put your focus. Yeah, yeah. There we go. Wow.

00:10:18 You can play around with it if you want. You can play around with it if you want. It's a manual lens. Yes. Yeah.

00:10:30 There you go. Dallas. Texas. In Dallas. In Dallas. In Dallas. In Dallas. In Dallas. So I'm what? Oh yes, of course, of course. A cowboy indeed. Oh yes, of course, of course. A cowboy indeed.

00:10:55 Look at how many cameras I've got. Do you ride a horse? I do not ride a horse. I mean, I've ridden a horse, but I do not ride one. You prefer a car. I do. I get around better in the car. Oh, am I out of battery on this one? Yeah, I am. Too bad. oh yeah there's no way we're all gonna be in focus you have to stop it down yeah yeah yeah yeah oh well only Andre okay so and then if you want to hear all you have to do is manipulate this thing to to darken it

00:11:42 Yeah, yeah, it's darker, but more is in focus. So then I can show you what to do to make Yeah, then make it a lighter then after you can like here I'll show you so like so when we when we do that And then we go That's not it so it's What do we want to do? There we go Let me make it darker and then here. We'll just do it this way So I sold yeah, we'll put the that may be a little too much I think so and then

00:12:24 And then a little lower on the ISO and that should yeah f8 that should be good. All right. All right. Well

00:12:38 Andre Alex I think I think it'll be fine.

00:12:58 It didn't look fine, but maybe. Okay, now it looks better than it was on the preview. Yeah, let me see if... Well, he's in focus. I'm in focus. Yeah. And Alex in focus. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, there we go. You're an Alex in focus. Yeah. Yeah. Almost completely in focus. Anyway, good stuff. Anyway, good stuff.

00:13:26 Yeah, look at how. Yeah, look at how. Yeah. Look at this one. Oh, Bogdan will tell the toast? Yes, sir. Okay, let me hear.

00:14:19 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Так не, давай, давай, давай я пропустю, я еще побуду.

00:14:23 [RUS] Да? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Готовься, да. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Окей, первое, я хочу сказать спасибо за ваши efforts

00:14:32 to help our country, to help ourselves and also to show the world real situation in our city, in our hospital and real situation in our specialization. So thanks to you, thanks to your project, also thanks to you. Happy birthday, thank you. It's like very cool for everybody of our community to see you face to face like a god of neurosurgery

00:15:00 from like American neurosurgery. You know, before the war, it's like to think about like American neurosurgeon. It's like somewhere and we like look on the stars. And one of the stars came to us. So thank you so much. Thank you very much for your help. Like by the war, by the stuff, by everything. It's a show that other war together with us and we together will fight for freedom for everyone.

00:15:30 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Украина, Европа, Украина. Спасибо большое. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Счастливый бирж. Спасибо вам. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Удачи. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Счастливый бирж.

00:15:44 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я называю его язычок и надеюсь Наталья Сергеевна.

00:15:59 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я что вообще пуп-пуп?

00:16:00 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я буду такое оба. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Давайте я вам помогу. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Не-не-не, не надо мне. Я передумала. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Наталья Сергеевна. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А, что? Прямо сейчас оба варить? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Давайте я вам помогу. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Да, давай. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Серьезно, он собирается обещать. [RUS] - Да? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я такое не хочу, говорит. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Извините, у вас просто очень толстая кофта. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Прицепил?

00:16:27 Yes.

00:16:28 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Нету, дайте к Алексу.

00:16:30 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Алекс, я очень рад и рада, что снова встретиться в Украине.

00:16:37 we love you with all our hearts thank you for for you are just the way you are you are here with us you support us you help us you joke with us you live with us you live and like go through all these explosions troubles fears with us and you always in our hearts we always wait for you

00:17:05 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мы ждем для вас в зале, в зоне, в сентябре, в крестницу, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] каждую сезону. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И ждем, когда вы приходите с вашей женой, с вашими друзьями, с вашими детей. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Украина, несмотря на то, что не защищает ваша семья. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И я желаю вам, что ваша семья всегда была в защите ситуации. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я думаю, что вы...

00:17:30 I hope you will come with all your friends, with all people you want to show my country, because my country is my favorite country, it's my love, my country. And I want to show you, show your family all the beauty of my country and all the beauty of our people. We wait for you, we are looking forward to see you again. C'est prêt que de l'hors-d'oeil.

00:18:00 Oh, Alex, c'est pas pour toi. Vous savez.

00:18:29 Thank you.

00:19:00 - Oh, right here.

00:19:54 Thank you. No, no, no, I can't. Thank you.

00:21:13 Thank you.

00:23:42 Thank you.

00:23:59 put this one back together.

00:25:02 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] куды его сцепляты

00:25:06 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] на магните [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] не середину [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] ежика [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] нарушил магнит [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] наоборот ежик середину [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] нарушил магнит [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] посмотрите

00:25:18 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] вот так

00:25:28 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] зараз

00:25:30 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Небо это так? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Нет, нет, нет, нет. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Много. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я попр

00:26:06 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну добре. Ну що, на цей Хэллоуин я хочу випадати за нашу Діпровську, Діпропетровську.

00:26:13 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Голосніше. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Сергій Петрович, ви вже сказали. Школу нейрохірургії. Яке впочинали ще батько Сергія Петровича. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мій батько Микола Маркович Мосичук Сальоний Вадим Іванович. Це ще було далеке 70-е роки. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Дуже приємно було спостерігати, як розвивалася наша нейрохірургія. Микола Олександрович Зорін, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Там Андрій Григорьович, сирхоз, зараз наш лідер. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Наша нинька нейрохірургія, вона розвивається.

00:27:01 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Дуже приємно бачити, на якому рівні зараз ми знаходимося. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Дуже приємно бачити Алекса, що такі люди до нас приїжджають. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Дуже приємно за наших молодих хлопців. Це наше майбутнє. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я дуже хочу, щоб наступного разу, у наступному році, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Алекс приїхав до нас вже вільну, незалежну, мирну Україну. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Щоб ніхто не ховався в бомбисховищах, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] щоб проводили приємний час, спілкувалися, обмінювалися досвідом,

00:27:39 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] і щоб всі були щасливі. Слава Україні!

00:27:41 [RUS] Glory to the heroes!

00:27:43 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я Настасію попросив коротко перекласти.

00:27:50 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Олександр Косопов, цей тост

00:27:54 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] обладає Дніпропетровськ ріджен нересуржений. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Обладає фундейтерів Сергій Грігерів,

00:28:05 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Александра Фадзе, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] очень известные профессиональные профессионалы, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] как Сальвовый Вадим Иванович, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Лисенко Николай Битвич, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] который был создан в Босичук, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Николай Маркович, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] в 1965 году, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] а сейчас 25-й год, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] 60 лет назад. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И сейчас... [RUS] 70 лет? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Днепропетровский днепрограмм [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мы были в 1967 году [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Только два днепропетровских регионов

00:28:58 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Все днепрограмм [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я закончу сейчас [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Да, это не [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] на новость и давай [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] это не попал

00:00:00 [RUS-NEEDS] Я с ним уже пригрелся.

00:00:01 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я с ним уже пригрелся. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Пригрели его?

00:00:06 Yes.

00:00:07 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я думаю... [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Расислав, ты говоришь, что ты говоришь? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ты говоришь, что ты говоришь? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] О, конечно. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Расислав. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А, окей. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Патрон, патрон! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Не рефергию, а динь Лискина. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Хотели начни обнимать дома. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Тебя, что я обнимаю? - Блин, быстрее заряжаться, бля. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] У нас есть в Далласе, да. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я не знаю, шутка, шутка... [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] У вас, я не знаю. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] У меня есть все.

00:01:43 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это что? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это уже безоплатный делиш.

00:02:17 - Good, bad? - Did you say no charge for this? - He's coming again. - No, no, he would. We want to film him swimming. - What would we do? - I'm not a fan of a lot of fun. - I'm not a fan of a lot of fun. - I should be here. - I should be here. - No, you can't do it.

00:03:10 that you will not miss deserving.

00:03:30 It's got like a lot of Ukrainian flags.

00:03:33 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вы знаете [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вы знаете

00:04:03 like you want to go in the water - Is that the start in later in the day but it's like if you have things going on later we can go directly to the cemetery after this yeah I think it's okay just to perform all time right? not like so long yeah yeah of course yeah 20-30 minutes there and after this I will show you

00:05:20 [RUS] So that while people are away, to rest for half a year.

00:05:23 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Для того, чтобы пока людей нет, отдохнуть и полгода.

00:05:26 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Вот так.

00:05:28 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Нормально.

00:05:30 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Когда получается, можно было бы... [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Можно попробовать. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я не знаю, я не знаю, что я не знаю. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я не знаю, я не знаю.

00:05:49 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я не знаю.

00:06:16 [RUS] [To be continued...] [RUS-NEEDS] Вопросы о том

00:07:07 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вопросы о том

00:07:34 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я подержу. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Нет, я говорю, надо запросить курить, чтобы бегать. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А, я уже хожу на курсию. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я уже видел, уже Никитоз, уже, блядь, писташку пырит. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Да б вы видели, у него же техники нет, он ее вот так вот подымал. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ну, 25 раз. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ну, там, если бы он правильно делал, он бы 30 потянул нормально. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Да, Никитоз, это таки. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я, если тебе приду в порядок, хочу вам в какие-то кнопки. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - О, приходи. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я еще порядок.

00:08:49 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -Откуда ты на локтан? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -Дай-ди, кто-то не на локтану там [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -Дай-ди, кто-то не на локтану там [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -Дай-ди, давай-ка [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -Дай-ди, давай-ка [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -У тебя доски, давай-ка [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -У тебя доски, давай-ка

00:09:00 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -Оф-корс

00:09:08 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -И если у тебя есть, ты можешь один? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -Один тебе, один меня [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -О, супер [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] -А можно ли ты карту развиваться [RUS] а

00:09:19 [RUS] а [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] они на то что [RUS] а [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Не вызывай подозрения. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Таких подруг не замечаешь? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это я хотела.

00:09:51 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] У вас есть два ваших фирменных сезиря? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Сезиря. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Работа под сезиря и кила.

00:10:04 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Если вы не помните, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] когда люди, чтобы посадить, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я захот

00:10:39 I want to say... I want to say for Alex and all our friends from US that we don't have Tomahovsk

00:11:07 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] из У.С. государства, но мы имеем вас, и вы, и вы здесь, и это нас нас миляет, и [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вы здесь с нами. [RUS] Thank you!

00:12:50 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. Tell Sasha he said hello. Okay. Okay.

00:13:30 Thank you. Bye-bye. Bye-by-bye.

00:13:41 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] ТОСТ

00:13:45 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] АЛЕКС

00:13:50 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] АЛЕКС [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Первое, я видел вас в этой встрече в Днепр. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это был на Сундаве в ИСУ. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И это было удивительно для меня. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И мои думки были: [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] "О, суперстар здесь!"

00:14:09 And this is, as Rostislav said, really inspire me. And I'm 100% sure that your visit inspires everybody here to do better, to be stronger. Thank you so much for that.

00:14:26 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Спасибо за замечательную причину, чтобы приехать сегодня, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] чтобы смыть вместе. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Насколько часов назад это было в Днепровске. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Теперь мы здесь, мы смыть, пить, и все это потому что вы. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Спасибо вам большое. [RUS] Thank you!

00:15:19 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Спасибо, что вы делаете. [RUS] Thank you! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Спасибо, что вы делаете. [RUS] Thank you! [RUS] Thank you! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Классный торт, как [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] флеш. [RUS] Thank you! [RUS] Thank you! [RUS] Thank you! [RUS] Thank you!

00:15:48 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я даже так могу

00:15:55 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ты можешь это [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Всем молод [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Насказать

00:16:00 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Не каждому дону [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Артему, ты ещё [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] С кем это тихошок челы, вы представляете

00:16:16 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Диме плес бил [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Диме плес бил [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Литруху [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Литруху

00:16:42 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ты бы болтал уже языком своим.

00:16:47 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Так а что ты? Я тебя приварю. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Тебя надо один раз на охоту или на рыбалку. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну все. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Когда едем, надо же ехать. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А что, ты любишь, да?

00:17:00 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я рыбал на экзю. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я рыбал прям. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] У меня же в Черкасах и лодка, и куча там, на хищников. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я же тоже подводный охотник, чтобы ты знал.

00:17:12 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] надводный и водный подводный идет [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] я ж не знал у меня все костюмы все ружья 3 ружья подводных [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] андрей риольдж знает у меня все ружья эти охотничьи

00:17:33 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] было время мы с петровичем лежим лежим посадки и говорим что сначала

00:17:40 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] выходит роса была на дарике солнце вскоре там часа 4 полка там мы лежим с [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] вверх очень мы говорим все пидорасы а мы класс красавцы [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И тут раз и пролетают две утки, мы их обе убиваем.

00:17:59 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Да, было дело. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Конечно, на открытии охоты коллегизм. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Владимир Алексеевич. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вечером приезжаем, еще Боря Павленко. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ой, Господи, какой хороший человек. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Своими собаками, там такие поляны накрывают. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Там тогда привозили еще генерал, кофе делают. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] В холодильниках виски.

00:18:24 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мой любимый друг, ты знаешь, что это? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я знаю, что это. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Как ты говоришь, что это? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я говорю, что это ежачок.

00:18:53 Hedgehog and then Hitchcock. Oh Oh

00:19:25 Wait what Are you saying big pain problem for the whole thing tonight amazing

00:19:42 You want to make a toast yeah, yeah, I can't I can't film it with this Oh Wow, I love it Come down.

00:20:53 Thank you. All right, I'll do one too. I mean, I was going to do one earlier, but once we got Nick filming, I might as well do one now. So, let me, here we go. I got one. I got it. I got the hedgehog. I just wanted to say thank you so much for inviting us into your lives and allowing us to show the excellent work that you do. to witness your bravery, your pride in your country,

00:21:39 and the continued unconquerable spirit that each of you show us. It is a true gift and an honor to be here with you. And I'll mess up saying it, but Slava Ukraini. Oh, hey. Oh. Very well done. Thank you. I learned it from the best.

00:22:32 He's got a new profession coming.

00:22:36 Uh-oh.

00:22:37 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Красиво, а что там

00:23:19 Oh, look at that. You guys ordered the restaurant's namesake. - I want this cake for me.

00:23:28 - That exact one. - Next time.

00:23:54 - Let's see if I can get everyone down this way. I'll send this to everybody down there.

00:24:00 All right. Am I in there? One more. One more. Here we go. Okay, and then this way, I got the hat, everyone over here, I got that part of the table just a second ago. Let me go here. Oh wait, uh oh. Logan's coming for a toast. This is

00:24:48 This is momentous here. What do you think about company this? Alright, we gotta hear this one. Crazy company.

00:25:00 Here, hand that to Logan. Oh no, I'm not making the toast. I thought someone else was making toast. I need a drink, I need another drink. I don't have a drink. So I've only recently met Alex a few days ago, but it's just been an incredible journey to come here with him and to meet all of you guys. And I think the work that you guys are doing is so incredible. And it's just such an honor to be able to sit here and drink and eat food with you guys. and your country is just so brave, and it's not an easy thing to let a film crew come in

00:25:48 and have cameras in your face. Now I'm feeling what I do to you guys all the time. So I wanna thank you guys so much for just being so kind and so just incredibly supportive to the project that we're trying to do, and I think it's an incredible cause, and cheers.

00:26:06 Thank you to Alex for bringing everyone here together. Excuse me.

00:26:14 What do you think about the Ukrainian people? The Ukrainian people? Yeah. I was just telling them I think the Ukrainian people are incredibly brave and they're incredibly kind. I think the Ukrainian people... I'm better than the people in the US.

00:26:38 Good job. Thank you. That was very... Now it's over. What was that? It's over. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty pretty cold. Did we just give Nick the camera for his night shift? Then we don't have to work at night. Then we don't have to work at night. We should just give it to you so you can film your day. I had a night shift yesterday. The day before yesterday.

00:27:00 The next one is going to go Monday. I'm not asking yet. You're not getting up, but thank you, Lassie. Thank you for paying my back. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Cakes. The cakes are hot. Alyon, so back to what we were... Alyon, let's eat toast.

00:27:35 [RUS] О! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Время! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Время! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Говори! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я собираюсь кудреться. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Скажи! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Скажи! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я не могу прийти, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] что надо будет.

00:27:57 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я не могу прийти, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] что надо будет. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я не могу прийти, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Можна просто тримати?

00:28:07 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Никіта, можна просто тримати? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Може отак? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Це як ви швидко, так? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ви шо треба казати? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ви володі вирішки?

00:28:19 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Будете переводити?

00:28:20 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Так, окрась, ти перебуваєш.

00:28:27 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я дуже рада знаходитись сьогодні тут, в нашій компанії. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я дуже радий, щоб бути тут в нашій компанії.

00:28:37 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Параманки.

00:28:42 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Відомирсу студія Колівуд. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я дуже вдячна нашим друзям з Америки, які приїхали.

00:28:49 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Приїжджайте частіше. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я дуже радий, щоб наші друзі з України.

00:29:03 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вдячні вам за вашу підтримку, за вашу допомогу. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Також ми, звичайно, вдячні нашим нейрохірургам, як сказав Андрій Григорьевич. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Коли приходять вранці, хмари розходяться.

00:29:23 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Хмари ви видужують.

00:29:24 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Так, які найкращі нейрохірурги. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вдячні вам за співпрацю, Вадим Владимирович. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Всіх забирає в нас пацієнтів.

00:29:36 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] 11-ту палату. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Завтра буде великий перевод.

00:29:43 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Дякую, Вадим Владимирович.

00:00:00 How do you hold it for the entire day? Speaker 1: How do you hold it for the entire day? Speaker 1: This is the lighter one. Speaker 1: The other one is heavier. Speaker 1: Let's go. Speaker 1: Let's go.

00:00:57 Speaker 1: I've had too much sugar today.

00:01:00 Speaker 1: I had like three packets of Oreos and like multiple of those chocolates.

00:01:10 [RUS] Speaker 1: Ukraine [RUS] Speaker 2: What if we... [RUS] Speaker 2: What if we... [RUS] Speaker 3: Olya, if you want to say something, [RUS] Speaker 3: then lean towards Karina's chest and say... [RUS] Speaker 4: Yes, so it will be [RUS] Speaker 4: to Karina's chest, yes [RUS] Speaker 3: You can say it, [RUS] Speaker 3: and walk away, but like a little microphone [RUS] Speaker 4: Just don't eat it [RUS] Speaker 2: Go ahead [RUS] Speaker 2: In general, everyone standing, [RUS] Speaker 5: we've all flourished here, let's go [RUS] Speaker 2: Go ahead, start [RUS] Speaker 3: What did they decide there?

00:02:29 [RUS] Speaker 2: Let's see

00:02:36 [UKR] Speaker 4: Very grateful to you and I'm honestly very surprised, pleasantly probably, that you made such [UKR] Speaker 4: well like, crazy-step, that you came here, you're not afraid, you're covering [UKR] Speaker 4: Raise the step. [UKR] Speaker 4: You're covering our events, our life, what's happening with us here.

00:02:59 [UKR] Speaker 4: Sometimes it's horror honestly speaking. [UKR] Speaker 3: We want to thank you for your raised step. [UKR] Speaker 3: Raised step. [UKR] Speaker 3: Raised step. [UKR] Speaker 3: You with raised step, when this type develops, if I am raised. [UKR] Speaker 3: And we are grateful for what you are, for your work, for everything you do for us.

00:03:50 [RUS] Speaker 3: Very grateful for your work and support, especially in the operation. [RUS] Speaker 3: Olya, I love you. [RUS] Speaker 3: And I would like to see how you work in the operating room,

00:04:05 [UKR] Speaker 3: under the microscope. [UKR] Speaker 2: Thank you all, thank you for coming to us.

00:04:24 [RUS] Speaker 2: I'm waiting for you here again, come again.

00:04:30 [UKR] Speaker 2: Thank you for your work, for what you've done for us, for Ukraine as a whole.

00:04:39 [UKR] Speaker 2: And we'll be waiting for the film, which will be in a few years.

00:04:44 [RUS] Speaker 3: He's waiting for a documentary film, and he's waiting. [RUS] Speaker 5: He's waiting for us to go to Dallas, Texas. [RUS] Speaker 5: This is our whole company. [RUS] Speaker 5: Thank you. [RUS] Speaker 5: Thank you.

00:05:18 [RUS] Speaker 2: Thank you everyone, goodbye everyone. [RUS] Speaker 2: Okay, let's go, let's go. [RUS] Speaker 2: Reception, reception, reception. [RUS] Speaker 2: We don't feel, right? [RUS] Speaker 2: Hello, hello. [RUS] Speaker 3: Yes, you, Nikita. [RUS] Speaker 3: What should I say? [RUS] Speaker 3: Nikita, this is what we had in life. [RUS] Speaker 3: Is this a souvenir?

00:05:52 [RUS] Speaker 3: Souvenir? [RUS] Speaker 3: Little knife

00:06:01 [RUS] Speaker 3: Now I'll pass it

00:06:06 [RUS] Speaker 5: They already took everything off [RUS] Speaker 3: Give me [RUS] Speaker 5: Well, here are the puddles

00:06:32 Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 1: I can't wait to see

00:07:42 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping he can bring it to that. Speaker 1: Yeah, bring him a lot. Speaker 1: Yeah, I asked him if he was working at night. Speaker 1: I would just hand it off to him at sleep. Speaker 1: No, he worked last night. Speaker 1: He was working on Monday. Speaker 1: I went to the boat off. Speaker 1: Right? Speaker 1: - Good job.

00:08:40 Speaker 1: - Yeah.

00:10:04 [RUS] [To be continued...]

00:10:22 I thought the one last night was better, though.

00:11:40 Speaker 1: I thought the one last night was better, though. Speaker 1: I think I made it really good. Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:12:31 Thank you.

00:14:45 Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you.

00:16:19 Speaker 1: Always have a way around.

00:17:21 Speaker 1: - I would suggest we ask Sasha to come with us to Speaker 1: talk about this, to find out. Speaker 1: - Yeah, would you want that? Speaker 1: - I think it could be. Speaker 1: - Yeah, he has my. Speaker 1: - Yeah. Speaker 1: - Oh, yeah, so we need to be done.

00:18:33 Speaker 1: - Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you.

00:20:26 Speaker 1: Thank you.

00:23:45 Speaker 1: -

00:24:05 Speaker 1: . Speaker 6: - He's gone on, we're just gonna go there. Speaker 6: We should probably just plan on doing a couple of hours with him, whatever he does.

00:24:24 Speaker 6: We do have to get on the train. Speaker 1: How early do the train like you do? Speaker 1: Is there a train on the train? Speaker 5: Is there a train? Speaker 1: Yes.

00:24:53 Speaker 6: you're getting on the same train just a different night

00:24:57 Speaker 6: so we do have a lead. Speaker 1: - You can just go on the train Speaker 1: once you go on the train. Speaker 1: It's not like you are on the train. Speaker 1: You gotta get up before you leave. Speaker 1: - Well, you know, what we can do is, Speaker 6: like get on the train and get just a quick thought with you

00:25:14 Speaker 6: before we leave, and then we then come around Speaker 6: and get the shot from outside the train guard Speaker 6: and then you pull away, you you know.

00:25:25 Speaker 1: I just made you emotional.

00:25:30 Speaker 1: I've lost that thought. Speaker 1: Whenever I think, I get lost. Speaker 1: Just don't think. Speaker 1: Don't think. Speaker 1: You're hurting the knee. Speaker 1: I don't think you're hurting the knee. Speaker 1: - It's going to have other. Speaker 1: The whiteboard. Speaker 1: - Okay, I feel it.

00:26:00 Speaker 1: - I'm afraid that was

00:27:30 Speaker 1: - Speaker 1: We're taking out like around some extent. Speaker 1: Yeah,

00:29:00 Speaker 1: Yeah.

00:29:37 Speaker 1: - It's not even like nose, Speaker 5: it's either your family member. Speaker 1: - Thank you, we need to do it. Speaker 5: - That's what we need to do. Speaker 5: - A lot. Speaker 5: - Yeah, for one. Speaker 5: - When you think about, Speaker 5: this one hospital is 46,000.

00:00:00 Speaker 1: because I participate all these years, collecting money and buying various things, and trying to help soldiers and teachers.

00:01:45 Speaker 1: I understand that you are super busy, but we are, you know, trying always we can to also

00:02:00 I was looking back and follow up with my friend.

00:02:30 I was looking at my family. He made me a lot of stuff. What's that? I'm sure you .

00:03:23 Well, what else is it?

00:03:30 What are you saying?

00:03:30 You know, I think it's a... It's hard to get. It's hard to get. I think it's a whole... Right. And it's just good to get that time. I know it wasn't getting any money back. It's very... Speaker 1: Subtitles are mandatory with news, but I watch subtitles very often. You probably won't lose that. Speaker 4: I heard about such a method, that you need to watch series with subtitles. It's a very bad investment, so that's why it's hard to get. But it's a one of the big, Speaker 4: When I was in San Francisco, I said that I didn't watch, I started such a day, Right, right. And, uh... I actually interrupted you.

00:04:28 I thought that was right here.

00:04:30 You know - He's always done, I think. Thank you.

00:05:56 I mean,

00:06:30 I mean, Speaker 6: - Okay.

00:07:22 Speaker 2: Whose is this? And then you went for it and I was like, yeah.

00:08:00 I was hanging back. Speaker 7: Venice. Speaker 7: Here. Right. I don't know. I don't know how I would feel.

00:08:17 Speaker 2: and then go through security and just get to the train. Speaker 2: and then go through security and just get to the train. everybody's money for something that would be in Los Angeles. You called me the next morning and I was like, "No one's offering to pay any of you yet."

00:09:02 And then the next morning you can call out. - We're going to come back. - Yeah, sure. Is it on the video? - Hello. - Hello. - Hello. - This is a friend of ours. - Usually the first project is nice. - He's the team.

00:09:21 - What's up here? - Follow up here. - I probably told you. - I know not. - Let's do that. - Let's get me one down. - I do.

00:09:30 - So he was like, - He's a long snapper. - He also had a great group. - He's a cool guy. We have to leave this restaurant. Yes, and I

00:10:19 Speaker 6: I'm moving. I'll give you a little time to walk through. Speaker 7: - I mean, if we have Andre, No, they get there at 10:00, Speaker 7: he can talk to them. Speaker 2: - Yeah, we'll yell with them, dress them down. Speaker 2: That's right. You guys will see each other tomorrow. Speaker 3: I need some.

00:11:00 Speaker 3: Are you sure?

00:11:08 Speaker 2: Give your dog a hug.

00:11:31 Speaker 2: - Yeah, I don't even know if they'll continue.

00:12:02 - Alex Mollatko. Speaker 3: - It's probably just a big one. - Yes, we saw you come out of six months together. - Yes, this is my wife. - Yes. - But you did it, Dallas? Yeah, yes. - Yes. - Yes, yes. Speaker 2: Yeah, they can make loud noises. Speaker 2: Yeah, they can make loud noises. Speaker 3: I swear they were fighting.

00:13:13 Thank you. Thank you.

00:14:09 Thank you. Speaker 4: All good. We are already out. Did you guys call the hedgehogs before this? No. No. Forevermore. Let's go. I gotta hurry. my luck I've just changed all the batteries back to what they were

00:14:54 And scene. Speaker 4: Good night. I'll take that. Ah, you will. You will.

00:00:00 I think we're good on everything so I won't stay long I think we're good on everything so I won't stay long Were you able to help Nate out did you get him where he's looking for

00:01:03 That's good I'll send Andre a note just saying that, hey, you know, when you drove us past it, we didn't have a shot of it. And it'd be very impactful if when we're leaving the hospital, if you and Alex could just get out and walk past it and talk about. Okay, for a second there that those those train tracks that I thought they were thought it was gunfire after all the explosions we've been hearing

00:01:49 Yeah Yeah, that would be yes, yes, yeah Yeah I did watch 20 Days at Mariupol before coming here, which I was considering not watching before. Yeah, I mean, well, they're... Have you seen it? Yeah. Yeah. They're, like, super close to the action. I mean... Yeah, no, they... Like, there's, like, tanks driving down the street, but it's, you know, it's different times before.

00:02:35 Yeah, and I mean, like, those people are all war photographers, war videographers. They're not, like... Yeah, yeah, that's like what they do. Yeah, it's like the ones that stayed have done it before in other countries. They just happen to be Ukrainian, so they're staying because this time it's their country. Right? Right?

00:03:01 Yeah. Yeah, so that's really the main thing I'm thinking to get on to Andre about. I mean, well, the law, like ideally tomorrow we would, you know, both of the rehab centers, we should try to get in touch with this woman who doesn't die. And I think we need to do that.

00:03:26 And then we wanted to interview some of the doctors.

00:03:30 Yeah, both Michael and... Yeah, Russell. And they've been involved in both of our surgeries. So, like, we have them in some... Hopefully they're not working this surgery.

00:03:44 Because Russell's not in particular. He always needs a patch of the skull. Right. But with both of them, with both surgeries, they haven't worked the whole surgery. Right? Michael did, right? The doctor was what? He was probably not.

00:04:01 But I guess I'm saying the surgery he worked, he was there the whole time. We could interview him as the surgery is happening. Yeah, we can. Right.

00:04:18 And then I guess the only other thing is, like, dude, if you want anything else out in the hospital, like, should we try to ask Andre if you could go see the ICU patient one more time, the injured soldier? Yeah, because... just something of him alone.

00:04:30 If we could just have him just sitting there contemplative or standing there contemplative, you know. I think that would have to be probably after the surgery.

00:04:41 Yeah, and I think it's, like, here's the... We have to do the rehab thing. Here's the beat in my mind. It's just that, like, for Alex, he's leaving the country, right?

00:04:52 You know, like, he showed up and that was the case, right? So like, he's just emotionally, that's the closure for him, regardless of how the patient is, you know? And then, you know, do the same with the woman, depending on how we play it out, right? But definitely with the-- The timing is just tough. Yeah.

00:05:35 A gente não sabe. Yeah, well, let's see, I don't want to call this any earlier.

00:06:00 No. I would say if we're going to push back on anything, we should push back on going to the rehab. Oh, I don't, yeah, I don't understand why we're... Because I don't really, I get they want to see it, but maybe we should tell them we'll come B-roll, I think. Yeah. You know, later, I don't know, I feel like we have a lot of... I think, like, if... Andre walking around with Alex showing him random things. Right. I feel like we get mixed results. So what are we thinking of doing with the surgery? I think we do nothing with the surgery. Yeah, I think the only thing we could do is just getting a shot from the hallway at some point. Yeah, I think the only thing we could do is just getting a shot from the hallway at some point. You know, but you probably got...

00:06:42 You could do that. I just think, like, coming up and stuff is going to take so much time. I just think, like, coming up and stuff is going to take so much time.

00:06:50 Is that an air siren or your phone? We went in Sunday night to see it.

00:07:12 I should get you all the sound I have. It's pretty gnarly right now.

00:07:17 I was thinking on the train ride, if maybe at some point you could start getting me proxies so I could fit everything on a 4 terabyte.

00:07:35 The problem with that is the train ride does not have good outlets.

00:07:41 So it's hard to plug in these drives. So it's hard to plug in these drives. Oh, no, I just meant if they could run at a similar time.

00:07:50 Well, if not, don't worry about it. But I think that because we've been there and I was manning things, I can probably get the mics prior to us having the sync boxes sorted out.

00:08:05 Probably easier for me to sync it than anybody else is what I'm saying. Yeah, I see what you're saying. I mean, I can run...

00:08:13 Well, I mean, I don't mind getting you the sound, and I don't mind it working out however. I'm just... And I wouldn't mind working with one of the big drives. Just...

00:08:30 It's not bad. No. We were nervous because we... You didn't have any of the hedgehogs? No. So what I should have done is I should have screen recorded the conversation. Yeah. Because the iPhone would have recorded her voice that way. Oh, of course, yes. Which is the oversight on that part. Which is the oversight on that part. It could have been passed on. It could have been passed on. There's a great program for Mac called ScreenFlow,

00:08:54 and you can record your, it records everything. It records your screen, it records your mic, it records the other side. and it doesn't like if you're on a Zoom call it doesn't tell anybody that you're screen recording yeah what did she say Really? Oh my god.

00:09:41 Yeah? Yeah? He doesn't really, he doesn't say anything, but I feel like he didn't say anything. He doesn't really, he doesn't say anything, but I feel like he didn't say anything. He could tell him. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. They paint the emotions on his face, but they, he probably, probably was feeling them.

00:10:09 Yeah. Well, it was funny, too, because I noticed this, because I asked right after that, he, like, ended the call. Basically, he was like, oh, is that enough? And I was like, I think he was getting, like, too emotional, maybe, or too uncomfortable.

00:10:25 speaking of it's like uh uh andre is speaking in ukrainian the whole time and then like all of a sudden he's like wiping a tear and he says i'm getting emotional and then

00:10:36 that was the the knock on the door i was like hold but you didn't see that so was it yeah because the camera stops recording uh before oh boy before it dies oh boy

00:10:52 So when you said it was at like 10.7 volts, I was like, oh, it's dead.

00:10:56 Ah, well, geez. Yeah, when I'm off the rim, I was on the green light.

00:11:00 Oof. Yeah, he was, uh. Well, hopefully it could be shot. Yeah. Yeah, I think. Yeah. So hopefully it died after I opened, like, the lock.

00:11:17 Yeah. Yeah. Um. Anyway, so, so, basically what we're saying is, if there's 10, we're going to attempt to, instead of going to the rehab, we're going to try to get Alex to go to the IC, to see...

00:11:38 Yeah, just, let's say we're doing a B-roll, sorry, Laura, I didn't mean to talk over you. No, no, no, no, I have no idea. Okay. it's just we we have uh we're gonna be there again on sunday and monday right you know and so like one of those points we're gonna get we want to get a lot of of b-roll right we want to get just uh you know inserts and whatnot and we just say hey look um the rehab is fine we'll get it we'll

00:12:13 get some shots of it but you know this is the last time Alex is here at the hospital so you know we

00:12:19 need to get something with him I think that I think that's an easy sell yeah no I'll do that and I'll say hey and I'll also say we want to interview Michael and Ratsaslav and that also we'd like to go we'd like them to I mean I don't know if we ask them to go in the morgue but walk past the temporary morgue right

00:13:11 Well, I think Yeah Well, also like Andre can put in the call and just say Hey, the film crew wants me know, wants me and Alex to walk past the morgue. So we're just letting you know. I feel like

00:13:32 he's got that kind of a, it's not like, hey, we're going in and we're going to open the doors. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, probably. But, I think it would be nice if we can't know that

00:14:06 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We're going to get, like, a little bit of their local farewell dinner, farewell coffee. Yeah, I mean, like, if we get in, when we have, when we have Andre in his setup and his working environment, there are, you know, a number of more interview questions that if we have time in the setup, that we should get. Otherwise, look at some other time to do it. It's not like completely necessary, but, um, you know what I'll do is just make a, I'll

00:14:54 make a note of the most important ones and like in the midst of, uh, of his going through his, his, his work after we get him doing the him alone stuff, then we'll get a few, we'll get a few questions in that spot. Do we need to, um, now what I'm hoping is that the conversation with his wife, um, um, is like gives us like some of the interview sound bites we'd need to uh not we'd need but we'd like the closing thoughts from oh yeah no but what that's what we're going to do we're going to get to the we're going to get to the train early enough that we're going to get him on and we're going to we're going to chat with him from a moment in his his his his

00:15:46 ¿Cuál es el otro lado? 7:47 with a 7:00 a.m. swim Alright, as soon as you get back, I think we can be done

00:16:37 Can you guys used it yet?

00:16:41 Okay, so that's You're all up here. Yeah, don't wait for me to go down here. No, no, the brown water is not anything to worry about. It's just like Eastern European-- it's like-- You're not concerned about that? No, no, I mean, like that's a thing.

00:17:00 That's the pipes that the hot water comes from. And there's a centralized hot water. And so it's an existing issue. I mean, like, it's come out of the faucet and whatnot. You know. So. Yes. You're not going to melt. You're not going to melt. That's good. Yes. Okay. I really appreciated what you guys said tonight in the toast. It's not. It's not. You know. I, I, it's never been far from my thoughts that like, I asked you guys to, to, to, to do this,

00:17:50 you know? And it was just sort of like, this is something I felt I had to do. And, uh, and I know, like I've explained to Alex a number of times, I'm like, so the difference between me and, and, and you two is like, what we're doing here, you guys do every day. It's your job. It's what you, you know, always it's this stuff, right? For me, I have other things that I do. So when I'm in a situation, it's only a brief time, and I love a being in it. But, like, even if it's a cause that's worthy, you know,

00:18:30 I spend a lot of time just not a lot. I mean, like, I'm not anxious about it, but I just, you know, I just want to make, I think about you guys a lot and your ability to get through this and do the work. And I'm often very, I often express my gratitude maybe too much, so I haven't done it that much this time, just because I don't, you know. But I really appreciate everything you guys are putting into this and the ownership that you guys are taking in your work. And I owe you an apology, Logan. I don't know how I forget that you would rather drink rancid milk than do something like my thought about this morning's conference.

00:19:26 The reason why I was like, you know, not wanting to get there early for it is like, what are we actually going to use it? And I forget that you're like, if we're going to shoot it at all. And so I'm going to do a better job of remembering that, Logan. If we're going to shoot. Well, thank you. Yeah, no, I didn't feel like I had to. Yeah, no, I didn't feel like I had to. But I wanted to let you know that, like, I just. That's something that I want to do a better job of for you, is to remember that, like, or if I say something like that, I say, Logan, we're not going to use this.

00:20:13 We're just going to set up a camera for political reasons. But even then, you probably aren't going to want to, you know, if you... I don't think it's like if you shoot it, then it becomes like a hemisphere being used. Yeah. You know, I know. More than ever knows that. Yeah, you're going to use anything you can.

00:20:30 I've been burned by that trick before.

00:20:34 Well, you know what, Logan? Maybe not by you, but by other people. You do realize, well, maybe you don't realize, often I don't even give my footage to the editor. Well, I know a lot of the footage you take is for yourself. I don't know how you determine, like, what's for the edit versus, you know, what's for, like, your personal...

00:20:59 No, I mean, like...

00:21:00 I don't know how you determine that workflow. No, it's like, for me, it's like, if it's something like, oh, somehow in all this, we didn't get a shot of this thing... Then you'll, like, look through your... Yeah, then I'm like, no, I got a shot of that, right? It's, uh, um, um, yeah. So, yeah, there's no, um, like the, the only time that we specifically, even on Into the Spotlight, we used my camera on the Daniel drumming scene, because I, I was only me and one other person, so I was actually shooting it, not just there.

00:21:46 And then Cindy at the basketball game late in the film.

00:21:53 Oh, yeah, W. Yeah, but we didn't include W. Was W not on the film? I guess I saw the clip you kind of hit.

00:22:00 Yeah, but that didn't end up in the film because we didn't get pre-approval, and the church didn't want to ask for it after the fact. And I was like, that was, the whole point is like, hey, W, hey, we can, all he has to do is say no, right?

00:22:17 You know, like, let's give him the opportunity. He's not going to say no, but you're all down syndrome. Right. Right. Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, I used to really not like him, but then Trump. He's quite nice in the Dallas community, unfortunately.

00:22:38 He's quite nice. Well, yeah, no, he's like, the funny thing is, like, well, because he's this, he's as an ex-president. He's like, I don't know. I mean, he's. I know.

00:23:00 I know. I mean, and like, like the thing that I think that's crazy about him is not that the paintings are good, but like his sort of atonement tour of doing, you know, learning how to paint and then painting military veterans with missing limbs, you know, like, like going there and painting these people. I mean if that isn't an atonement tour, I don't know what is. Oh sure. Yeah, no, I mean there was no reason for that invasion. Yeah.

00:23:50 Okay, yeah, and I'll text, I'll text, Andre, yeah, and Laura, I have not, I have not, I've not shared with anyone your heritage. I figured that was for you to share. So just letting you know that. Thank you. Well, I think Alex, Alex knew. Well, I'll have to be told in my life. I mean, Alex, I might have told in a different, you know, like I didn't, my thought was like I wasn't showing up and saying, hey, you know, she's here for maybe, you know, whatever.

00:24:40 No, with Alex, I was just sort of like, I was just talking about like our dinner and discovery and what was going on. All right. Good work, team. I will, my phone is dead. I will see you in the morning, in 12 hours. I'll see you in 12 hours and 20 minutes. We'll see you. We'll see you. Thank you.

00:00:00 Where is the small pouch? Where is the small pouch? Can I try?

00:00:32 Do you have a small pouch with magnets? There. Yeah. Thank you.

00:01:08 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И еще когда мы были в Вене вместе с ним на конференции, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] он отримался дозовым разъемки, и Сергей Анатолевич [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] добавил тоже интервью, когда это было, и второе, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] в Северном.

00:01:20 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Так що це все.

00:01:44 [UKR-NEEDS] Що вона казала? Він тишнодичний питання, вона її задається?

00:02:23 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Що вона казала? Він тишнодичний питання, вона її задається?

00:02:28 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А потім вони вже середовують. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ми їм виділили дві палати відділені, одне туалет, там оборудовування приїхали до 20 чомоданів, тільки з їхніми тим обладненью.

00:02:50 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это реально не профессионалы. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Обычно там ходят у нас 2-3 человека даже на вишенную аппаратуру.

00:02:56 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это не то.

00:03:18 Thank you.

00:03:29 You might just tape this with the paper tape if you want to hold it. Okay. Well, I think we're ready, right? Yeah. You want to be a gaffer? We have to help, yeah. We're going to get older. We could secure it. I think we should get her to say her name and if she agrees to be on camera at the beginning, okay?

00:03:51 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я вас на самому початку ще запитаю ваше рівня і чи ви не проти, що ми з вами у вас інтерв'ю з'являємося.

00:04:07 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Каже, що це не залишить людів.

00:04:09 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Якщо це залишить, то я буду розкритим.

00:04:12 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Що вона головна не з'являє мене повісить.

00:04:15 How do you say if we leave some marks on the wall, it will be shorter than the enders?

00:04:22 It won't. This tape is designed after fall off. Okay, maybe the hole will be more cleaner. Yeah, it's cleaner, cleaner, cleaner after we fall. A little more. A little more. So it's smaller. There we are. Oh. Oh.

00:04:49 Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

00:05:00 She'll be doing the interview for me. So. Okay.

00:05:07 Do you want to see it? Is it going to be too low or okay? We'll see when she's there. I think it's probably okay. Thank you. We don't just know that you can see it.

00:05:21 No. Too low? What do you think, is that too low?

00:05:27 I don't think so. Yeah, I mean, slightly higher, but yeah, no. Better down.

00:06:02 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ще раз передачати вам величезне дякую за те, що ви побачили з нами в мовриху. Це дуже важливо і дуже багато значить. Ми з'язаємо, що це нелегко.

00:06:12 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вже, хто, я буду запитати, будь ласка, про те, що ви чинні справи.

00:06:21 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мы сейчас не будем делать, чтобы мы не будем делать.

00:06:51 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я сама народилась у Дніпропетровській області, у місті Першотравінськ. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Зараз вона Шахтарська називається. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вона більше зараз знаходиться до лінії фронту, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] на кордоні Дніпропетровської та Донецької області. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А у Дніпрі проживаю, як стала студенткою медичної академії, у 2001 році.

00:07:25 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І з тих пір проживаю тут, а родина була у Шахтарську. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ми були на місці згодованого будинку, бачили якийсь жах, вони були просто розбиті.

00:07:40 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Так само, якщо ми розповідали, будь ласка, трошки про свою родину, що сталося? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мої батьки хотіли переїхати ближче до мене, моїх дітей. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ще в мене є молодша сестра, яка проживає у Дніпрі. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Тому вони купили квартиру у тому под'їзді, якого більше немає, за три тижні до трагедії. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Приїхали робити ремонт. А мій чоловік пішов з батьками їм допомагати.

00:08:26 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Він, чоловік пішов з батьками допомагати і вони вже повинні були повертатися додому. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Повинні були повертатися додому, тому що у нас був запланований сімейна вечеря. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Повинна була приїхати моя сестра, я дійсно була вдома. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ми теж проживаємо на Перемозі, недалеко від того дому. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І коли я готувала, рунав вибух, я бачила дим, звідки він.

00:09:12 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я стояла біля вікна і чекала на них, коли вони приїдуть на машині, а звіску не було.

00:09:20 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Потім я побачила у телеграм-каналі фото вдома і зрозуміла, що їх більше немає.

00:09:28 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ви образували, зрозуміло, що вони згадали?

00:09:32 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Так. Я сподівалася, що вони десь під завалами, живі, але як лікар я розуміла все.

00:09:45 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Що ви робили в той момент? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я, коли змогла, я пішла туди, до будинку, і весь цей час, коли розбирали завали, я не ходила не додому, нікуди, я весь час була там. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Скільки це додало часу? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Три, а було чотири доби. Я вже не пам'ятаю. Це як один день все було. Я бачила, коли його доставали.

00:10:17 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я була разом з криміналістами та поліцією, мене вже як свою там приймали всі, тому що я не могла піти зверти.

00:10:31 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Коли б вам сказали, що в поліція не було? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мою маму знайшли і тіло. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Але я не одразу її впізнала. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я потім вже їздила у наш судмедичний морг, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] і там вже передавлялася фото, потім самі тіла. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І впізнала маму. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А батька та чоловіка не знайшли нічого взагалі. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Лише документи, деякі, то що було в квартирі і все.

00:11:06 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вони без вісті зникли.

00:11:13 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Як ви знаходите енергію, сили, чити кожен донь зараз? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] В мене є дві доньки. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вони ван-енергайзери. [UKR] Thank you! [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] В мене є дві доньки. Одні 10 років зараз, другі 4. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вони дуже-дуже активні дівчата, дуже гарні, і вони надають силу.

00:11:58 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А ще я дуже вдячна усій лікарні, де я працюю. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Підтримка була колосальна просто від усіх. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І продовжується ця підтримка. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я за це дуже-дуже вдячна. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Разом на питання про вашу роботу тут.

00:12:21 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Що вам дати ця робота? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Що ви взагалі думаєте про те, що ви зараз лікарі робите таку важливу справу в такий важкий час?

00:12:29 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я взагалі лікарем хотіла стати ще у 6 років. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я прийшла додому і сказала батькам, я буду лікарем-отолерингологом. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вони посміялися з мене, але я все одно поступила в медичну академію, закінчила. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І у цій лікарні я працюю з 2005 року ще медичною сестрою у цьому ж відділенні, у якому я працюю зараз лікарем. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І з 2014 року ми спостерігаємо ці поранення, ми у цій війні. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Спочатку, мабуть, було дуже важко. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] На початку повномасштабної теж було дуже важко. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Це був трошки інший рівень, ніж у 2014 році.

00:13:19 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Але у нас така професія. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ми маємо допомагати, ми маємо рятувати людей, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] не дивлячись ні на що. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І, мабуть, за рахунок моєї роботи, яка мене відвлікає,

00:13:39 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] мені було легше пережити свою трагедію.

00:13:45 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ви дощас тут з Дніправи не виїжджали після того, що втопло? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] На початку я виїжджала, тому що я була у декретній відпустці на той момент. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] У мене молодша дитина, їй було 8 місяців. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І ми виїхали до Львова, трошки були у Львові, потім до Болгарії виїжджали, а потім я повернулася, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] я сказала, що я більше не можу нідде знаходитись, я хочу додому, я хочу бути тут. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І я вийшла на роботу дуже швидко. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я хотіла вийти на роботу з самого початку, коли почалася повномасштабно,

00:14:25 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Але мої всі старші колеги сказали, що посиди трошки вдома, це дуже маленька дитина.

00:14:33 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Чому ви зараз залишаєтеся і вирішувати дімпром, що ще й ближче до дімпром, і стає нам символичним висновичним? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Це мій дім. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я думаю, що я не зможу навіть десь в іншому. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Якщо прийдеться, якщо буде дуже важко взагалі, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] то треба буде виїжджати, мабуть, вивозити дітей в першу чергу заради них. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Якщо б їх не було, я б не виїжджала. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мабуть, я б до останнього залишалась тут.

00:15:12 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Питання, що світ повинен знати про те, що відбувається зараз в Україні загалом?

00:15:20 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ті люди, які далеко з ВІІЦ, можуть не розуміти, як ситуація зараз тут. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Не повинні знати те, як і скруті ми всі знаходимося, як ми відвоюємо своє право жити. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] як ми боремося за свою незалежність, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] за те, щоб бути вільними людьми. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Такі і є, але в нас намагаються це забрати.

00:15:57 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Але ми все одно вільні, сильні. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Як Ви, переживши велику трагедію і інші люди, з якими теж стоїться багато всього зараз, і втрати, і все можливе погане, що може відбуватися під час війни,

00:16:19 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] що зараз, на Вашу думку, дає сили всім людям, які щось продовжують робити, продовжувати? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Віра, віра у себе, віра у буйських, у те, що ми переможемо. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Це найголовніший любов. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Теж любов тих людей, які навколо тебе. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Найголовніше — твої близькі люди. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І неважливо, навіть коли ти втрачаєш їх, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] твоя любов залишається до них. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І ти живеш заради тих, хто живий,

00:16:58 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] але і з думками про тих, хто вже помер.

00:17:04 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Що для вас означає бути українкою і детьми з України?

00:17:09 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Будти вільною – це незалежно. Якось юна. Ми найкращі. Ми самі найкращі.

00:17:20 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Що ваші доньки люблять робити? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] О, вона старша любить танцювати, а молодша любить танцювати, співати і все на світі, щоб усі дивилися на неї.

00:17:32 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вона дуже активна, артистична дівчинка. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Як Ваша молодша донька була, зрозуміло, ще маленька, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] дуже так, як вона сталася, як Ваша молодка.

00:17:50 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Як Ви старша донька порушила?

00:17:54 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мабуть, старша донька дуже схожа на мене, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] тому що вона все зрозуміла одразу, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] вона майже не задавала ніяких питань. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я дуже переживала з цього приводу,

00:18:08 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] розмовляла з дитячим психологом,

00:18:12 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] розповідала, як вона себе поводить, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] і дитячий психолог сказав, що ваша донька дуже сильна, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] вона молодець і вона все пережила, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] вона вміє з цим жити, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] і їй ніяка допомога не потрібна зовсім. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А маленька зараз починає задавати питання, чому в неї має тата. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я її намагаюся розповісти, що тата загинув, що він на небі, він завжди з нами,

00:18:45 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] але питання зараз є і дуже активно.

00:18:50 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] На що сподіваєтеся на майбутнє? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Що наступить перемога, буде мир і ми будемо жити тут, у себе вдома.

00:19:00 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І мої діти майже не будуть пам'ятати цього періоду.

00:19:06 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І в них ніколи не буде війни більше у житті. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ще одне питання від нашого резонсера.

00:19:16 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Чи вам десь приходилося оперувати чи лікувати російських солдатів, які військово полонені потребують через вікарню? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Так, доводилось. І не так давно було це теж. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Нам періодично із 2014 року, починаючи під час певної масштабної війни, привозять не часто,

00:19:39 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] але інколи привозять під час чергувань, ми надаємо допомогу їм.

00:19:44 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Як це для вас?

00:19:45 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вони пацієнти. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Це не має значення. [UKR] Thank you! [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Дуже дякую.

00:20:01 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ще раз вам велике дякую від себе, від всіх. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Дуже непросте інтерв'ю. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ми придумали всі ці дні. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І так ви нам явилися. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Дуже рада познайомитись.

00:20:14 Dziękuję. Do zobaczenia. Dziękuję. Dziękuję. Dziękuję.

00:00:00 How much sedation is he getting right now? Speaker 1: How much sedation is he getting right now? Speaker 1: We decided to decrease the level of sedation in order to check neurological examination Speaker 1: and Anatoly decided to perform tracheostomy tomorrow. Speaker 1: Tracheostomy tomorrow, this is a very severe trauma. Speaker 1: It's not a fast recovery. Speaker 1: How much fentanyl was he getting? Speaker 1: Two millimeters per hour. Speaker 1: One minute per hour? Speaker 1: How many milligrams is that?

00:00:54 [UKR] Speaker 1: How many milligrams? [UKR] Speaker 2: Need to convert, we count in milliliters.

00:01:02 [RUS] Speaker 2: Not large, not large. [RUS] Speaker 1: Can you see?

00:01:09 Speaker 1: This...

00:01:10 [UKR] Speaker 1: Three millimeters.

00:01:12 [RUS] Speaker 1: So... [RUS] Speaker 1: Three-three-three-three-three-three-three-three-three-three-

00:01:26 Speaker 1: Okay, and we will like this react?

00:01:30 Speaker 1: Yes, a little bit. Speaker 1: Yes, yes. Speaker 1: Rostislava performed a lumbar punch. Speaker 1: You can see more anything.

00:01:48 Speaker 1: and this uh yes

00:02:08 Speaker 2: and everything blood pressure and everything else is okay Speaker 1: 100, 120, even after your pain, blood pressure is higher. Speaker 1: Alex, it's also 120, now it's one, no, it's invasive arterial blood pressure. Speaker 1: Green, green.

00:02:40 [RUS] Speaker 1: This is not invasive. [RUS] Speaker 1: When we arrived, this is 120. [RUS] Speaker 1: When we started the pain, this is 130.

00:03:00 [RUS] Speaker 2: He reacts. [RUS] Speaker 2: He reacts. [RUS] Speaker 1: He reacts.

00:03:13 Speaker 2: Yes.

00:03:14 [RUS] Speaker 2: Well, we'll look at the electroencephalogram, maybe tomorrow too.

00:03:18 [RUS] Speaker 2: Coma?

00:03:19 Speaker 1: Yes.

00:03:22 [RUS] Speaker 1: And hematologist or therapist?

00:03:24 [UKR] Speaker 2: I didn't see him.

00:03:30 [UKR] Speaker 2: Then he said so.

00:03:33 [RUS] Speaker 2: Of course. [RUS] Speaker 1: I, Klaba. [RUS] Speaker 1: I, Klaba. [RUS] Speaker 1: Ivan Deputin, he didn't want to, I think, we have the right, you're the head, but it can't be. [RUS] Speaker 1: And where are you explosions? [RUS] Speaker 1: What do you think, where were your explosions? [RUS] Speaker 1: I don't know, we still have cardio. [RUS] Speaker 1: No, explosions, where were they? [RUS] Speaker 2: I don't know, I think they shot down. [RUS] Speaker 2: Shot down? [RUS] Speaker 2: Shot down, yes, it's gone.

00:03:57 [UKR] Speaker 2: No, such, I won't write.

00:04:11 Speaker 1: We will go and go and

00:04:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get it.

00:04:30 Speaker 4: Move over. Speaker 4: Get it. Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.

00:04:37 Speaker 4: Oh, we're gonna change before we walk. Speaker 3: Oh. Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go out. Speaker 3: Okay, same?

00:00:00 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А в карманчик хочу.

00:00:00 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А в карманчик хочу.

00:00:02 Yes.

00:00:03 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Тут магнит, я хочу, что. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ничего? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Магнит на байчика. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Не, не, не. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Давайте я вам все-таки его причиплю. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ты не просто что-то снимаете?

00:00:18 No.

00:00:20 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я был сразу сказал. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Дальше, это просто. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Не надо. [RUS] - У меня есть permission. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Доброе утро! [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Окей, оттуда будем сейчас идти.

00:01:06 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Мы сейчас получим Оскара с вами. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Давайте просто уйдем, а не останутся.

00:01:13 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А мы вот так опутием. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Юля, первое. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Юля, первое. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А мы потом все остальные. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну, окей. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Палату. Четвертую палату до нашего пациента. Поднимемся, как она себя почувает.

00:01:49 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мы до вас, ранковый час. Как приезжающие пациенты?

00:01:53 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Кисленко і Керівець. - А то ви приходите? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я її додався справ. - Чесно? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Чесно. - Ми питали в неї дозвіл на зйомку,

00:02:00 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] питали в неї дозвіл на зйомку, і сестри, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] мені дали дозвіл. - Доча, дочка. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ага, дали, дали. - А ви даєте дозвіл? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я даю, звісно. Як вам потрібно так і робити. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ми з американським професором вчора оперували її, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] і сьогодні подивилися її томограф на першому повісті, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] якраз коли почалися ці вибухи.

00:02:21 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Комп'ютер для такої операції, він гарний, є ще набрик.

00:02:26 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А можна задам питання, да?

00:02:29 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А ми зараз її подивимося, а потім вийдемо і ви зададите питання. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я просто в керіології трошки розумію в цьому.

00:02:35 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Задавайте.

00:02:36 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Задам питання, тому що при першій операції я якраз була в той час, коли був ватюк мозку. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Це був третій сутки. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я от зараз просто, ну як би... [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну не то, що боюсь, я просто згадую той період, це було 20 років тому, коли голова була якраз мушка розміром, і були судини, сударні були великі. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну не то, що боюсь, я просто згадую той період, це було 20 років тому, коли голова була якраз мушка розміром, і були судини, сударні були великі.

00:02:59 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Цінині.

00:03:02 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Та я нам не дала.

00:03:03 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Несивніся туди.

00:03:04 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А, нема.

00:03:05 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Історична комп'ютері, який назначений. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Історична комп'ютері, який назначений.

00:03:08 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Чавист не писала.

00:03:10 Yes.

00:03:11 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ну там дексимітазон по скільки ми назначили? 8 мг два рази?

00:03:15 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Та 8 – це багато. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Чотири? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Два рази?

00:03:18 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Дови можна три перші три дні.

00:03:20 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я просто прийдуваю себе вести, просто вдруг повтор буде.

00:03:25 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну дивіться, ви знаходитеся у відділенні, де постійно є медсестра і чергує два нейрохірургу. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Два нейрохірургу чергує.

00:03:35 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ростислав Русланнич назначить дексиметрозум по 4 мг три рази на день. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] 4 мг три рази на день.

00:03:43 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Фракція парин у нас іде з завтрашнього дня, в будь-якому разі. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І ми подивимося по її стану. Зараз оцінимо став. І завтра ще подивимося. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Якщо нам щось не подобається, ми, можливо, завтра між 2-ю і 3-ю добою [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] призначимо інфузію манітолу однократно.

00:04:00 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Манітол – це 11% 200 мл. Це гіперосмалярний розшир, який трохи збираємо.

00:04:40 [UKR-NEEDS] Привенцію в дібранні

00:04:42 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Привенцію в дібранні

00:05:11 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это прямо можно так выведать, я уже заставляю и робот.

00:05:15 Yes.

00:05:16 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Доброе. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А я хотел спросить, куда ты чергуешь? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Завтра. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Завтра. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Добу. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Завтра пятница. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ростислав Русланевич, по-другому поводу...

00:05:30 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я после работы буду на сутки пройти. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вот он будет черговать с 8-го ранка пятницы до 8-го ранка суббота, да? [RUS] Угу. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И дмитить меня. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Все вопросы можно задать.

00:05:43 Yes.

00:05:50 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Добрый день еще раз. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Еще раз. Добрый день. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вы не против, что мы вас на камеру снимаем? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Для наших потомков. Не против? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Как вас зовут? Виктория. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Как вас зовут? Виктория. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А по-батькови? Олександрович. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Виктория Олександрович. А сколько вам лет?

00:06:07 71.

00:06:08 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] 21 но вы еще молода да я думаю руки там 90-95 можно прожить да у меня два правнука два правнука

00:06:20 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] так давайте почнемо рахувати все дети дочка одна дочка сики внуки в двое сколько трое внуки в а

00:06:33 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А каких звать? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Антон, Кирилл и Наташа. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Маша и Маша. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Антон, Кирилл и Маша. Хорошо. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Она уже началась с правнуков. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я сказал, что 71 год, доживая до 90, как минимум.

00:06:50 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Она говорит, что у меня уже 2 правнука есть. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А как правнуков есть? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Витя и Дима. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Витя и Дима. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Витя и Дима уже в школу ходят. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Уже в школу ходят?

00:08:00 [RUS-NEEDS] нормально сильнейший сжимаем

00:08:01 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] нормально сильнейший сжимаем [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] ох можно пальцы поломать сильно сильно

00:08:08 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] так а ну где ця ручка [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] так а ну сжимаем не сильно сильно ну

00:08:17 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] окей а как вы можете посмехаться а ну [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] откажете посмехается можете посмешку

00:08:29 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вот так вот красавица.

00:08:31 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Можно губы накрасить, можно брови накрасить. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Она женщина, но она попадет в историю мирового кинематографа. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ей надо, чтобы сажать пока еще рано.

00:08:45 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Сажать мы дозволяем где-то на третью дубу.

00:08:49 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Сажать вы можете носить кровать, поднять? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Нет, вообще можно сажать не раньше, чем на третью дубу. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А зараз, чтобы ей было удобно, можно подложить у вас на время подушку, сложить одеяло и на период, особенно когда воду пьет.

00:09:07 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] У нас так працю.

00:09:09 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я уверен, что вы не имеете в США, только в Украине.

00:09:18 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Электрический бед. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А ежи еще мне расскажите, кормить или не кормить?

00:09:25 - Do you want to eat? - It will be a simple slime.

00:09:30 - If you don't want, you don't need it. - Don't let it go. - We want to eat water. - Okay. - We'll drink water. Can you work this way? - I'm getting confused. - We'll stop. - Up, up, up. - Oh, it works. - The one from Wednesday. - Yesterday.

00:09:52 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Вони нічого зберігали? - Так, так. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Дівчата трохи підмурнювали, не треба. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Чому, може їх так розправити?

00:10:00 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Тобто не переживайте, вони нічого...

00:10:02 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Щоб складок не було. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Щоб складок не було, розправляйте.

00:10:04 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Тобто так, розправить? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Так. Я вам скажу, що я недавно літав в Америку. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] 12 годин туди, 13 годин назад переліт. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я собі купив отакі до коліна чулочки, зняв як нічого не бувало. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] До цього я літав в Індію, в мене були ноги як колодки, червоні, болісні. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А оці чулочки – це класна штука. І потихеньку пальчиками потрошки поработили, водички випила і хай спить.

00:10:40 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Тобто її не нагружать, мозик пусть відпочиває.

00:10:44 Does she have good strength in her legs? Good strength? She asked me, did you watch my CT control? Did you watch CT control? Yes. I saw your control, and with Alex, we were on the first stage. When the explosion was hit, we lost your tomorrow.

00:11:09 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Пухлину видалили повністю. Ви тотали риму його тюмори.

00:11:46 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Алекс Валатка, он литовский принимает. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А мы можем помочь, как говорится, знаете, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] очень важна, мы очень довольны, что есть... [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Это очень важно, я думаю.

00:12:09 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] врачи это посланники божьи потому что врач это ну врач посланник божий поэтому с божьей помощи [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Бог делает хорошие вещи,

00:12:23 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Дякую

00:12:51 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Доброе? [RUS] Ай [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] контроль давление, контроль температуры, пьем воду, работаем

00:13:30 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] по трошку ногами, сильно не заставлять. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И спать. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Юлия запишет, чтобы медсестри приходили раз в 4 часика [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] вы на листочке писали вот тут тыск, то есть например 10000 тыск, температура такая-то, а еще колоночка [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] пишет и выпало там 200-300-400-700 литров. Вот так контролируете? Сейчас мы уже практически [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] в рамки 700 литров. Ну вот мы завтра утром, Юля покажет такой листочек, утром приходим и

00:14:02 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ми дивимося, напротязі доби отакий був тиск, така була температура, і ви випали там підбулили черту 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] І вчора я навіть у генерального директора нашого відпросився, щоб акція була по інсульту. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Там повинні були бігати, учасствувати. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Кажуть, ми з професором Маріксом підемо в операційну і не будемо поспішати. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Нужно буде 2 години, 3 години, 4 години, 6 годин буває.

00:14:51 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну, нам повезло, основний етап операції 80 хвилин.

00:14:55 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Тому будемо сподіватися.

00:14:59 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Слава Богу!

00:00:00 Okay. Okay. And does

00:00:30 children and two great grandchildren yeah how old is she she looks good

00:01:07 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Дякую за перегляд!

00:01:50 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] сейчас сейчас два человека потом я буду занят потом дальше буду

00:02:13 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ви в мене спостерігаєтесь? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А перший раз в якому році цей діаноз поставало?

00:02:29 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] вот это я думаю 28 десяток 2025

00:03:10 Busy day, every day busy day and full different type of activities. yes yeah yeah even cut lab the vascular center they can possibility to watch american flag

00:03:31 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Гуманітарній айт, Юрія та команда «Вок» і його презентати, «Джорнал». Це багато активітів. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Як ви себе почуваєте?

00:03:51 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Це професор Олекс Володко з Техасом.

00:03:55 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Далас, Техас завідувачі відділення. Як я тут завідуваю відділення, так само він завідує відділення в Техасі, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] і ми з ним оперуємо пацієнтів, і військових, і цивільних. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ми спочатку провідали військового, тому що ми оперували в понеділок, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] пішли провідали жінечку, яку ми оперували вчора.

00:04:38 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] называется находка

00:04:42 incidental lesion in the varmice cerebelli it was diagnosed first time in the spring of 2024 oh you can see here

00:05:03 but we decide the uh watch and see side by side yeah

00:05:33 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] вы принципе

00:05:41 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ми раз в пів року робимо, так? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Так, ну три раз трошки більше, там не почалось.

00:05:50 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Відчинно ми оперувати патентів з такими тюморами, [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] але цей молодий тюмор може бути 3-4 см.

00:06:05 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вместе мы операциями на этот момент, но в этой ситуации она маленькая и без увеличения в полном случае.

00:06:23 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мы решили повторять обследование каждые 6 месяцев, 6 месяцев, больше, больше, больше.

00:06:32 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Там есть креветка, но остались ледяшки.

00:06:36 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Креветки мне спрятать. Я люблю креветки.

00:06:41 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - И салата. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Где-то спрятать надо во всем. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Сейчас нам векнопол ставлю. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Да, и прикиньте соломой. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я люблю стабильный, а? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Стабильный, да. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Профессор тоже говорит, что стабильный раз в 6 месяцев все-таки наблюдаем, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] потому что она немножко накапливает контраст,

00:07:07 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] просто за ней нужен глаз да глаз. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Что такое контраст? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну, то, что былый контраст. [RUS] А, да. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это говорит, что это опухоль, она не злокачественная, она доброкачественная, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] но за ней нужно смотреть. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Пока видимо ничего нет, пока. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Мы за ней смотрим, да. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Так, может быть, мы же не знаем, сколько она у вас уже существует и сколько времени она у вас росла.

00:07:34 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я туда два слова пишу. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] МРТ картина стабильна, продолжит испосторожение. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] МРТ контроль каждые 6 месяцев.

00:08:06 Thank you.

00:08:48 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] йон цикничек а я понял найдем найдем алексу одну и но сейчас сейчас мы еще [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] одного пациента шутка проконсультируем сейчас отдаю говори что там ты сленка [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] давай подожди быстро

00:09:33 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ми зараз віднову консультируємо і йдемо кушати. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Добре, тоді якраз коли ви пігете, вони хочуть встелити камеру, світлюти. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А ти що, хочеш, щоб вони голодні були? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ні, просто їм треба бути в кімнаці, в описі, щоб налаштуватися. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ну так може зараз перекусять. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А вони ще надувають чи наставляють все?

00:09:52 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Надувають, надувають.

00:09:55 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - І це треба, щоб вони могли бути в кімнаті. [UKR] Good.

00:10:00 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Скажи, що ми їм їду залишимо. Голодними не будуть.

00:10:04 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Добрий. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Одну хвилинку.

00:10:07 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Це Мальцев, так? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Так, це Мальцев. Там треба було.

00:10:12 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А Савчук це хто?

00:10:16 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Та то просто я восьмашно раніше, бо...

00:10:27 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Савчук це ж гласи це. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Савчук це ж про гибито глас. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Савчук це ж про гибито глас. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Який глас?

00:10:33 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Руслану, чесь, по-мію тут. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А у ньому тут.

00:10:38 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Да, Савчук це Руслану, чого?

00:10:41 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Громовіст.

00:10:49 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] но вы поняли что орбиты [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] он на певно сависки [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] не нашли этого да? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] кого? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] та осколка [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] там может ли он в его отсосов шоу [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] так же не было просто его пошел

00:11:28 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] ми щас ми щас поїмо потім ми тут я ви з Артюмом поїсти [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] все дякую майку

00:11:45 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] кай заходит заходи [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] у меня были [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] диск компьютера март есть [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] что требовалось подлечить? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] туберкулез

00:12:28 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] и как вы его подлечили? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Но это выписка, что вылечила.

00:12:37 Yes. un pricetto

00:13:33 Men se nu att min sjoma.

00:13:39 She has no history of cancer or anything. - Patient also has...

00:14:00 - Lung tuberculosis has and treat this.

00:14:18 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А як знайшли цю пухлин? У вас судорги були, судоми?

00:14:21 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Ні, у мене інфунків не було, і мене положили в лікарню, і мене це спробували.

00:14:31 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А коли це було? Коли вас положили в лікарню?

00:14:37 - 24.

00:14:57 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А що пишуть? Вона росте в розмірах чи ні?

00:15:00 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Сказали, що я робила не те, що вона підросла. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Підросла? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Бо вона таких розмірах ще не велика, зараз я помірюю.

00:15:19 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Два з половиною на два сантиметра.

00:15:23 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Це ви робили останній раз у кінці червня.

00:15:28 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну, так, це в літо робила.

00:15:31 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ви хто?

00:15:32 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ні, дочка.

00:15:38 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Проблеми сюди, на картинку.

00:15:42 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Багато проблем в мозку, бачите, які дирочки? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Тут, тут, тут, з цієї сторони.

00:15:48 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Це судинне ураження, це сосудистое пораження моза.

00:15:51 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Почула? Сосудистое. Опухоль ось тут, не бача. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Моя думка, я напишу, що, по-перше, тут сосуди обслідували вам?

00:16:03 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Не было. - Не было? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - А, нет, проходила я на шее, на голове, но меня не следовали.

00:16:12 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - ОЗД? - ОЗД, да? Что там?

00:16:31 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Моя думка, що треба буде в кінці січня зробити МРТ з контрастом і прийти до мене. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Якщо дійсно росте, тоді будемо оперувати. 30 число, 10 2025.

00:17:20 MRI control with enhancement after six months and come back to me and after that of the disease because

00:17:59 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Алло.

00:18:02 Yes. Yes.

00:18:35 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] *выграет

00:18:37 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] — Так, у я [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] СКТ, СКТ з посиленням і в понеділок буде МРТ.

00:19:23 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну, у вівторок тоді з результатами, з диском, хоч до мене під'їжджають, якщо буде у вівторок. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Що ні, то в середу зранку на 8:00 годину.

00:19:33 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] 8:00 ранку.

00:19:36 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Та ні, на пів восьмого, на восьмого, щоб займали чергу, щоб були перші.

00:19:46 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Четвертий. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] хорошо, это я уже запустил [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] хорошо, это я уже запустил [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] хорошо, фамилия Сосухова [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] они сами зато, никого толком не знаете [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] и все вам помогает, кто не знает [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] я думаю, что вы едите

00:20:00 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] я думаю, что вы едите [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] доброе [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] все, молодец [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] я свой, я свой, я свой [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] да, молодец

00:20:28 [UKR] Thank you! [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Зрозуміли мене? [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] В кінці січня зробити з контрастом, потім прийти.

00:20:48 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Почайши.

00:20:50 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Перш за все, треба її. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] У нас багато активностей, і це чоловікаво треба її.

00:21:02 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Там треба, щоб ви з резерва плюс витягли знову. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Так. - Тобто, СД, резерв плюс, і розпечатать. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я дам дві бумаги заповнити. Я сказав, щоб збросили в групу. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Тому що сказали, до третього здати. І друге. [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Приходили ремонтники, які вікно... Вам вже ставили вони вікно?

00:21:31 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я думаю, когда ремонт будет.

00:21:35 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Будем ремонтировать, и тогда сделаем все вместе. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Не надо ничего делать, да?

00:21:38 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я так и скажу.

00:21:41 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Сейчас. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] - Я помню, мы с вами разговаривали, что вы сказали, что, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] что это.

00:21:50 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Сейчас, подождите, что скинул малый?

00:22:01 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я не знаю, я не знаю, честно. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну, так, и что еще? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я сейчас Лиля пошла заполнить две бумажки. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Там какая-то новая постановка, чтобы познайомились, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] написали про правила, и друга не знают. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну, короче, я не вижу, я не вижу. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Сейчас придут эти, я оставлю пока открытые, [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] сейчас журналисты придут, будут что-то настраивать.

00:22:35 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну, диклижки потом, и розписывайтесь. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Вы где живете? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] В первом уровне. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ну, вот вы приехали сегодня, вы с кем-то узгодживали? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я звонил Ботникову, своего лекаря и еще. Я уже операцию делал, все повторно выросло.

00:22:52 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А когда операцию вы делали? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] В 22-м году. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А покажите. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А вот выписка. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А когда вы были на контрольном огляде? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я сюда не ходил, я у себя посту делал и мне присылал, говорил нормально. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я три раза пришел, а потом все случайно делал, она все опять выросла. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я три раза пришел, а потом все случайно делал, она все опять выросла.

00:23:14 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] будем смотреть сейчас смотрим [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] можно попросить пока консультировать там с адральной острой гематомой нашли еще опухоль

00:23:28 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] в темной области так гематома или опухоль и опухоль и там и гематома

00:23:36 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] ну пусть садятся я буду приходить уходить сегодня операции нет но это не будет быстро [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Сейчас, сейчас, сейчас. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Смочного.

00:24:58 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Бон аппетит

00:25:12 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Как можно ее запустить уже в офисе? [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Там просто техника вся. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Там лучше не запрещено. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Сунка, гриб. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] И авокадо. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Я спрошу.

00:25:30 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] А авокадо не буду снимать.

00:26:06 That's good though. That's good though. Shrimps. Would like. No, I'm okay with that. That's really funny tonight. I don't know.

00:26:16 [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Это очень выгодный человек. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Почти ничего не есть. [RUS] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ничего не есть.

00:27:24 So, do we know what that explosion we heard earlier was? What the most big missile come looking on?

00:27:30 Do you know where it landed? No, I don't. So, so far the BBC didn't say anything about all the attacks in Ukraine overnight.

00:27:43 Well... Nothing on Fox, the CDC and the answer. We didn't be surprised. It's all about Trump and talking about the World Series, American baseball. Just overnight attacks are not good enough for Westerners to be.

00:28:00 Even 700 of them? Well, you know, this is something that happens frequently.

00:28:08 uh you know or we hear about it when a kindergarten gets attacked

00:28:38 Do you really keep independent much of that popular name? Yeah, but it's English, so it's more popular. Oh, yeah, that makes sense.

00:28:49 But yeah, they're very good. Yeah, they seem like it. They try to be very impartial when they can. You know, they back up all their stuff with a lot of the research and references and background.

00:29:43 I don't want to see that. It's handy us in our rooms. No, it's a one-hit block in the last door, under this office. Oh, okay. But I'm going, I'm going to finish.

00:00:00 Speaker 1: yeah one of my days you can change him and look at this camera and teddy will

00:00:00 Speaker 1: yeah one of my days you can change him and look at this camera and teddy will Speaker 1: look Speaker 1: hello

00:00:52 [RUS] Speaker 1: Give me.

00:01:16 [UKR] Speaker 1: Thank you for watching!

00:01:56 [RUS] Speaker 1: Next [RUS] Speaker 1: especially and all for Sasha

00:02:44 [RUS] Speaker 1: To be continued... [RUS] Speaker 2: Adelyush

00:03:29 [RUS] Speaker 2: - Enough people, right? [RUS] Speaker 3: - Not yet, for now cola. [RUS] Speaker 3: - For now cola? [RUS] Speaker 3: - Without dry. [RUS] Speaker 1: - Body, wrote about the reserve. [RUS] Speaker 1: But didn't drop the documents. [RUS] Speaker 3: - No, well, you know, could have written. [RUS] Speaker 3: - Ah, you said you can't, somehow didn't change.

00:03:51 [RUS] Speaker 4: - So, to us, Daryush, we can understand Yushchenko about this.

00:03:54 [UKR] Speaker 4: Berries. [UKR] Speaker 4: And who is discharging him?

00:04:05 [RUS] Speaker 4: I could remove the stitches in the light.

00:04:09 Speaker 4: Uh-huh.

00:04:10 [UKR] Speaker 4: And Yushchenko we can remove the stitches on Thursday and on Wednesday for discharge.

00:04:17 [UKR] Speaker 4: Because I have an operative day, [UKR] Speaker 1: let Yushchenko come with berries, I'll give permission.

00:04:22 [RUS] Speaker 1: okay [RUS] Speaker 1: now [RUS] Speaker 1: well, everyone who [RUS] Speaker 1: in the department, somewhere is waiting [RUS] Speaker 1: and if

00:04:38 [UKR] Speaker 1: we'll leave at ours

00:04:40 [RUS] Speaker 1: for the next [RUS] Speaker 1: pull [RUS] Speaker 1: for radiation therapy [RUS] Speaker 1: everything there, if they will, although I think, is it not good? [RUS] Speaker 1: yes, here [RUS] Speaker 1: Transferred to lie down?

00:04:54 Speaker 4: Yes

00:04:56 [RUS] Speaker 4: Palpate? [RUS] Speaker 4: Yes, well and palpate a bit [RUS] Speaker 4: Was lying in the second ward on the right [RUS] Speaker 4: Okay [RUS] Speaker 4: Ah, transferred

00:05:07 [RUS] Speaker 3: How you as a person made a cash thing [RUS] Speaker 3: And then she rests

00:05:16 [RUS] Speaker 1: Some girls from the pawn with a frame [RUS] Speaker 1: Returned not only just visible

00:05:25 Speaker 1: Take care. Speaker 5: It is and it isn't. Speaker 5: Oh, look at the light in here. Speaker 5: Why didn't I bring a key? Speaker 5: I like the way they fit. Speaker 5: Do you need a key pastor? Speaker 5: Oh, you have a key, okay.

00:06:04 Speaker 5: Oh, you're just waiting.

00:06:13 Speaker 6: And chicken. Speaker 5: I love both. Speaker 5: You can eat both. Speaker 5: By the way, Andre, your wife's cooking was so good last night. Speaker 5: It was such a gift to be able to spend time with you there at your home. Speaker 5: Thank you for inviting us in. Speaker 5: And Logan and I were discussing, you know, we should have had someone stay at your place Speaker 5: place last night because the drama overnight of, you know, I'm sure. Speaker 5: Did you guys go to your shelter or? Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 5: I slept from 4 to 6 a.m.

00:07:01 Speaker 5: yes see that's uh Speaker 5: um Speaker 1: I slept Speaker 1: wearing Speaker 1: warm clothes Speaker 1: uh Speaker 1: Thank you Speaker 1: Two Speaker 7: uh

00:07:21 Speaker 1: that Speaker 1: right

00:07:29 [RUS] Speaker 7: - Have you tried work yet? - No, I'll be sorting through documents.

00:07:34 [UKR] Speaker 7: - Hm? - So, I want to deal with... [UKR] Speaker 7: - Documents. - Good job.

00:07:40 [RUS] Speaker 7: - Pick up the receipt to you, something sloppy, [RUS] Speaker 7: said it's already for the reception, so it will be cleared up.

00:07:49 [RUS] Speaker 1: - Hello. - Bach and the wizard.

00:08:12 Speaker 5: It's really incredible getting to watch you work as well, Andre. Speaker 5: and an energy about yourself and an ability to multitask and take in information and I Speaker 5: don't know, I mean, you're always, your time is always demanded of you and yet you always

00:08:38 Speaker 5: have self. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 5: It's true. Speaker 5: It's true. Speaker 1: From one day to other day, during the start of 2014, especially from 2022. Speaker 1: Every day, every night, I need to resolve many problems.

00:09:02 Speaker 1: not only a very difficult case i need to organize and help to other people to perform our work Speaker 5: do you think that um are you gonna well i'll ask this on on camera but you're going to answer in in Speaker 5: in ukrainian then but do you think because you're um you're not in cube that you've been able to um Speaker 5: create new techniques that might like you've had the freedom to to um Speaker 5: find your own style of of the surgeries that you do i'm just wondering because there's there's Speaker 5: probably so many so so much more um oversight um there whereas as someone who's an independent

00:09:57 Speaker 5: thinker and can think for themselves being just a little away allows you to I don't know

00:10:04 Speaker 5: more freedom more freedom to find new and inventive ways of getting through these surgeries. Speaker 1: First of all, we have a lot of casualties. Speaker 1: Dnipro and Kharkiv, a lot of casualties from frontline in this city. Speaker 1: That's why we have a lot of patients in acute period. Speaker 1: It is the first 24-72 hours after injury. Speaker 1: There were no hospitals in Ukraine that have such more multiple patients, such a big number of severe wounded people.

00:10:54 Speaker 1: This first, the second, when the war was started in 2014, I, during the two, three weeks, Speaker 1: Oh, wow.

00:11:09 [RUS] Speaker 1: I want to find

00:11:39 Speaker 1: gaps in how to treat this patient. Speaker 1: We have a lot of questions about how the best way to treat this type of injury, this kind Speaker 1: of injury, another kind of injury. Speaker 1: And we need to start to think about how it is better for patients. Speaker 1: I as the chief of department, as a doctor of medicine profession, I can have freedom to resolve this problem, to analyze our results and create new techniques, new approach for treatment of this patient.

00:12:24 Speaker 1: That's why it's our cycle. Do, analyze, change, do is cycle. Speaker 1: Many times we do, analyze, change our techniques and again. Speaker 1: That's why we improve our results, decrease the time surgery, but increase the survival rate and decrease the quality of life of patients who survive. Speaker 1: That's why it's not only modern technique for Ukraine, it's also modern technique for

00:13:10 Speaker 1: around the world for different countries, USA, European countries. Speaker 1: That's why they often invite me to their Congress conference, meetings, and previous online,

00:13:27 Speaker 1: and I talked about our strategy, our techniques, our technologies, our approaches, our methods of treatment, these female wounded people. Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's fascinating to, so I don't, I knew very little about neurosurgery before this. Speaker 5: I had one point in high school and college, so from the ages of 17 to 20, I spent some Speaker 5: time while in school working for a plastic surgeon. Speaker 5: So, I think I told you this, the one who did the work on me.

00:14:17 Speaker 5: So, I have a very limited knowledge, but more than just an average person, at least of surgery prior to today. Speaker 5: I've been talking about

00:14:58 Speaker 5: understanding the esteem that people hold your work in and I'm able to see it myself, which is really interesting, really cool. Speaker 1: I'm not going to operate, but I started my colleagues and prepared yourself. Speaker 1: yesterday a lot of books in ukraine we spread these books to all department Speaker 1: around ukraine and now we translate in english and also we publish a lot of articles together with

00:15:36 Speaker 1: So I might have put it in Spanish. Speaker 7: Oh, it's me? Speaker 7: Mm-hmm. Speaker 7: It's my favorite.

00:15:53 Speaker 5: I understand why people would want to read.

00:15:59 Speaker 5: Why these articles are published and celebrated. Speaker 1: I think you have time to eat and after that to prepare my office to interview. Speaker 1: At this time, I will sit in this room and continue the consultation when we are ready. Speaker 1: You ask me, and read, let's go. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 1: Enjoy.

00:16:30 Speaker 1: I will. Speaker 1: Enjoy. Speaker 1: Thank you.

00:16:51 [RUS] Speaker 1: I'll take my laptop now and we'll go to the doctors' room.

00:17:04 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.

00:18:03 [RUS] Speaker 1: Tanya, where are the keys to open? [RUS] Speaker 1: What's with you? [RUS] Speaker 1: You need to sleep. [RUS] Speaker 1: Well, yes, in turns. [RUS] Speaker 8: Well, after me.

00:19:06 [RUS] Speaker 1: This is the last one, right?

00:19:08 Speaker 1: Here.

00:19:09 [RUS] Speaker 1: When was the surgery?

00:19:11 Speaker 8: In '22.

00:19:12 [UKR] Speaker 8: In the 9th month.

00:19:31 [RUS] Speaker 1: Now it's loading. [RUS] Speaker 5: We actually filmed Andre and Alex on camera when

00:19:49 [RUS] Speaker 5: the bomb happened. [RUS] Speaker 1: - Bon appetit, Rostik. - Thank you. [RUS] Speaker 1: - Show.

00:20:08 [RUS] Speaker 1: - Did you see this? I'll show now. [RUS] Speaker 7: - I see. And where to look, to read? [RUS] Speaker 7: Facebook. [RUS] Speaker 1: Facebook. [RUS] Speaker 1: You can Makarov. [RUS] Speaker 7: He reposted.

00:20:54 [RUS] Speaker 1: Facebook, remember me? [RUS] Speaker 1: One year ago.

00:20:59 Speaker 5: Wow.

00:21:02 [RUS] Speaker 5: Is this him after...

00:21:05 Speaker 1: explosion oh oh it's just a picture you can see here he called me during he was in

00:21:14 Speaker 1: operating room after the explosion i was in my countryside house no yeah no it's not a video it's Speaker 5: - Yes.

00:21:27 Speaker 5: - Yes.

00:21:51 [RUS] Speaker 1: you'll find and I'll show you, but you wrote it beautifully that we all rushed to defend this [RUS] Speaker 1: you'll find and I'll show you, but you wrote it beautifully that we all rushed to defend this

00:22:00 [RUS] Speaker 1: oncologist who died in this address, some cool guy, and now he's being tried there almost [RUS] Speaker 1: in Kyiv for a month or two months of house arrest plus the chemotherapist today we're defending him but we [RUS] Speaker 1: hope that we unite even more and fight against this guy who spreads fen [RUS] Speaker 1: infection among the wounded, well so [RUS] Speaker 1: you were talking about documents to upload from Botikov or not [RUS] Speaker 1: and you tell me to fill out two more documents

00:22:44 [RUS] Speaker 1: and what kind of documents, some orders [RUS] Speaker 2: write your full name, year of birth, correct 77, corrected is correct, now your stamp there

00:23:11 [RUS] Speaker 2: where what doesn't do, configures this equipment, I'm here and the stamp

00:23:23 [RUS] Speaker 1: one second now

00:23:26 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.

00:24:08 [RUS] Speaker 2: Here 1977 elevator. You're right on the cartoons, and I'll go put the stamp. [RUS] Speaker 1: Cross out and write 77?

00:24:20 Speaker 1: Yes.

00:24:24 [RUS] Speaker 1: Yes, come in. [RUS] Speaker 1: Nikita, come in. [RUS] Speaker 6: Your pen. [RUS] Speaker 1: Batyana. [RUS] Speaker 1: Or not? [RUS] Speaker 6: Sopor. [RUS] Speaker 6: He's actively trying there so that... [RUS] Speaker 6: Well, wrap around the eye. [RUS] Speaker 6: It's clear that hemiplegia on the right.

00:24:56 [RUS-NEEDS] Ну, почему мне так кажется?

00:25:05 [UKR] Speaker 6: Well, why does it seem to me?

00:25:07 [RUS] Speaker 6: Tell me what we're doing differently. [RUS] Speaker 6: And just trying well. [RUS] Speaker 1: And there's blood, and there surgery or couldn't... [RUS] Speaker 6: Yes, we went absolutely dry. [RUS] Speaker 6: We coagulated these bridging veins that were torn. [RUS] Speaker 6: They bled well. [RUS] Speaker 6: Well, already torn. [RUS] Speaker 6: Already, yes, additionally. [RUS] Speaker 6: No, I'm very valuable clinically now. [RUS] Speaker 6: We left without any problems. [RUS] Speaker 6: For the fall we also put an inflow here, [RUS] Speaker 6: not because it was wet, [RUS] Speaker 6: but because, well, the fall is big, [RUS] Speaker 6: I think that later it won't deliver, [RUS] Speaker 6: that nothing accumulated. [RUS] Speaker 6: Absolutely without problems.

00:25:48 [UKR] Speaker 1: Who's on duty?

00:25:50 [RUS] Speaker 1: Starik. [RUS] Speaker 1: And when are you on duty?

00:26:00 [RUS] Speaker 1: Well I think, let Starik observe today, Maly tomorrow [RUS] Speaker 1: observes, because Saturday anyway he'll need to be [RUS] Speaker 6: - Well here's this with the big one. [RUS] Speaker 6: - Well here's this with the big one. [RUS] Speaker 1: - Yes, this hematoma needs to be removed. [RUS] Speaker 6: - What will happen with the daughter? [RUS] Speaker 1: - Well just observation, tell Starik that if not,

00:26:18 [RUS] Speaker 1: like he was putting in an extra drain. [RUS] Speaker 6: - Okay.

00:26:29 [UKR] Speaker 1: Vision when did it get worse?

00:26:34 [RUS] Speaker 1: Problems with vision.

00:26:36 [UKR] Speaker 8: - Thank you for the transformation, this transformed me it crushed me.

00:26:39 [RUS] Speaker 8: - When? [RUS] Speaker 8: - When. [RUS] Speaker 8: - When, when I was being transformed, [RUS] Speaker 8: it crushed me, [RUS] Speaker 8: partially damaged the nerve. [RUS] Speaker 1: - Well, need to operate again here. [RUS] Speaker 8: - For sure, yes.

00:26:59 [UKR] Speaker 1: - But what happened?

00:27:00 [UKR] Speaker 1: Bled?

00:27:01 [RUS] Speaker 8: - Bled, yes.

00:27:03 [UKR] Speaker 8: Recently a man beat me, my relative. [UKR] Speaker 8: Maybe you heard, that killed the grandson, grandmother, grandfather, at a crossing. [UKR] Speaker 8: In general, I got caught in the crossfire. [UKR] Speaker 8: My buddy, I found them, he decided to beat me too. [UKR] Speaker 8: My in-laws. [UKR] Speaker 8: And they beat me, and I got swelling.

00:27:29 [RUS] Speaker 1: if I had MRI before and after I would say that this is directly connected to this [RUS] Speaker 1: he who is the relative of the mother-in-law, of course the grandson

00:27:55 [RUS] Speaker 1: he also of course killed, yes, also someone

00:28:00 [RUS] Speaker 8: - Only you asked everything. [RUS] Speaker 8: wanted to file charges, didn't write, like well I'm a puppy I was walking, he wrote don't come by

00:28:15 [RUS] Speaker 8: position by Venduk there we immediately understood that it's not that and I [RUS] Speaker 1: crazy [RUS] Speaker 1: need surgery I think somewhere yes somehow I did an MRI then somehow [RUS] Speaker 8: got better and this literally three-four days ago started pressing again [RUS] Speaker 1: surgery to surgery is indicated, hospitalization on Mondays and as I understood there 10

00:28:54 [RUS-NEEDS] времени 10 можешь ну 10 ноября ноября приезжаешь утром возьмешь на направлении

00:29:03 [RUS] Speaker 1: or November 17 if you decide, come get admitted to me, you come, here's your by

00:29:13 [RUS] Speaker 1: time 10 you can, well November 10, November, you come in the morning, you'll take a referral [RUS] Speaker 1: don't return the disks and November 10 at 8-9 you come to my office [RUS] Speaker 1: we hospitalize but will try to operate as soon as possible need to [RUS] Speaker 1: understand that if there are wounded or critical patients then we first first

00:29:44 [RUS] Speaker 1: priority okay surgery is needed surgery

00:00:00 [RUS-NEEDS] До побочья. [RUS-NEEDS] До побочья. [RUS] Yes.

00:00:20 [RUS-NEEDS] Меня зовут Сергей.

00:00:30 [RUS-NEEDS] А кто операцию делал?

00:00:53 [RUS-NEEDS] Я не помню операцию, я в Киеве делал. [RUS-NEEDS] Там Кваша.

00:01:01 [RUS-NEEDS] Ну, если ты делал у него операцию, почему ты у него не наблюдаешься? [RUS-NEEDS] Ну, ко мне приходят люди, которые нужно оперировать. [RUS-NEEDS] Пациент пришел, его нужно оперировать. [RUS-NEEDS] Я его посмотрел, записал, сказал дату, когда он ложится. [RUS-NEEDS] А если пациент прооперирован, то он наблюдается у того, кто сделал операцию.

00:01:20 Speaker 1: I did have her bring up your Michael DeBakey kind of thought and comment.

00:01:25 [RUS-NEEDS] Я в поликлинике хожу, но мне там в поликлинике Норик сказал, что я к вам пришел. [RUS-NEEDS] Это не то, что я, не мое желание, он просто так сказал, я не знаю для чего. [RUS-NEEDS] Я всегда у него все это время, просто угодно хожу к нему.

00:01:42 [RUS-NEEDS] Покажи заключение МРТ.

00:01:46 [RUS] [To be continued...]

00:01:57 [RUS-NEEDS] Вот написано стабильная мрт-картина,

00:03:09 [RUS-NEEDS] это значит, что ничего не поменялось. [RUS-NEEDS] Я не нужен.

00:03:13 Speaker 3: So it's a basic hospital, but then they have a suite that looks like the whole floor that looks like the Four Seasons or Ritz-Carlton or something.

00:03:20 [RUS-NEEDS] Будет написано негативная динамика, придешь я посмотрю.

00:03:27 Speaker 3: So it's still a functional hospital room, but very, very upper class.

00:03:33 [RUS-NEEDS] Пожалуйста. [RUS-NEEDS] Можно?

00:03:50 [RUS] Uh-huh. [RUS] Uh-huh.

00:03:55 [RUS] Uh-huh. [RUS-NEEDS] Да, нас уже направили. [RUS-NEEDS] Мама приезжала сюда, общалась с Марченко. [RUS-NEEDS] По поводу, назначили операцию. [RUS-NEEDS] И вот хотели бы спросить, есть возможность, чтобы ее сделать?

00:04:12 Speaker 3: No, he was, he actually got beaten out by the first heart transplant.

00:04:18 [RUS-NEEDS] Да, мы посоветовали. [RUS-NEEDS] Даша.

00:04:22 Speaker 2: Christiaan Barnard, I think. Speaker 2: Christiaan Barnard, I think.

00:04:31 [RUS-NEEDS] - Травма, со стрелкой упала и... [RUS-NEEDS] - Когда это было? [RUS] Yes. [RUS] Dasha, if I was talking, yes. [RUS] If I can, I'll call. [RUS] Do you know when she fell? [RUS] No, didn't sleep. [RUS-NEEDS] - Спроси. [RUS-NEEDS] А где она сейчас? [RUS-NEEDS] а ну дай мне трубочку привет

00:05:25 [RUS-NEEDS] давай давай

00:05:35 [RUS-NEEDS] а то я у доктора на громко [RUS-NEEDS] сейчас секунду [RUS-NEEDS] Люба! [RUS-NEEDS] Люба!

00:05:47 [RUS-NEEDS] Бегун! [RUS-NEEDS] За телефона! [RUS-NEEDS] Алло, Мамуль, а ну скажи мне

00:06:01 Speaker 1: Your emotions are roiling?

00:06:03 [RUS-NEEDS] ты помнишь? [RUS-NEEDS] ну знаешь

00:06:06 Speaker 1: I just wish the voices would stop torturing me.

00:06:08 [RUS-NEEDS] ну наверное

00:06:10 Speaker 1: What do they say? You're not good enough?

00:06:11 [RUS-NEEDS] ну вот это за вас я приезжала

00:06:12 Speaker 1: Or you're too good? You're making other people look bad?

00:06:15 [RUS-NEEDS] ну скидится [RUS-NEEDS] месяц [RUS-NEEDS] месяц точно прошел [RUS-NEEDS] я полкупомиссию [RUS-NEEDS] а сознание она теряла когда падала?

00:06:27 [RUS-NEEDS] наверное меньше [RUS-NEEDS] мам сознание ты теряла когда ты падала?

00:06:30 [RUS-NEEDS] не я ударила

00:06:34 [RUS-NEEDS] я ударил

00:07:00 [RUS-NEEDS] Правда там же, бач, ничего не нашли. [RUS-NEEDS] Он просто не разрубал чуть-чуть кожу и пошла кровь. [RUS-NEEDS] Вот. [RUS-NEEDS] И вот у сеняка у меня чуть-чуть вышел сюда на глаз. [RUS-NEEDS] Это.

00:07:17 [RUS-NEEDS] Я сразами. [RUS-NEEDS] Все, все, Мамур, давай перезвоним. [RUS] Good.

00:07:24 Speaker 3: and Andre knows this too,

00:07:31 [RUS-NEEDS] Сначала сделать ангиографию, это обслуживание суды на мозгу,

00:07:40 Speaker 3: You know, in operations you've sort of assisted on hundreds of times, suddenly you're the one doing it.

00:07:45 [RUS-NEEDS] Возможно, в ходе этой операции сделать сосудистую операцию, [RUS-NEEDS] закрыть те сосуды, которые привели к опухолю. [RUS-NEEDS] То есть это можно, например, положить в понедельник ее привезти, во вторник сделать это исследование, возможность закрыть, а в среду прооперировать.

00:08:02 [RUS-NEEDS] Ну она готова, да.

00:08:12 [RUS-NEEDS] Готова. Ну тогда в понедельник на 8-9 утра приезжайте к моему кабинету. [RUS] Сюда, yes [RUS] Yes. [RUS-NEEDS] Все, гривожен, документы у вас остальные? [RUS-NEEDS] Не-не, если все будут остальные документы. [RUS-NEEDS] вы с ней переговорите потому что другого пути нет но у нас так 7 раз отмеряется нужно будет еще одно исследование сделать [RUS-NEEDS] хорошо [RUS-NEEDS] где вышив с ней переговорили что [RUS-NEEDS] початка будет одно исследование возможно ходе это исследование закроете сосуды которые привели к кровотечению

00:08:38 Speaker 3: get together and talk about the complications and misses and mistakes

00:08:45 Speaker 3: So if you do something bad happens on a case, you try to learn from this Speaker 3: so you don't repeat that mistake.

00:08:56 [RUS-NEEDS] все предоставляется с этим списком вы тогда мы посмотрим список по факту решим вы подойдете к [RUS-NEEDS] моей старшими сестре которая находится соседнем кабинете что есть больница на вычиснуть почему

00:09:07 Speaker 1: It's the largest Jewish center in the world. Speaker 2: It unites history and modern life and Roca Armando was in the

00:09:23 [RUS] Alright, good, you understood everything. - All the best. [RUS] All the best. - Goodbye.

00:09:29 *doorbell*

00:09:59 [RUS-NEEDS] Там никого не мая.

00:10:13 Speaker 3: and there's a line that says, he's talking to God, This is my plate.

00:11:45 [RUS] Thank you.

00:12:10 ...

00:12:44 Can I ask your consultation for me? How many of much does it cost? Your consultation? One million dollars or maybe two million? Yeah, you can come back in. Maybe first Laura will give an interview. - Laura, you want to give the interview?

00:13:30 - You perform some photo for memory? Yeah, like a chief of neurosurgical department. Yeah? - Yeah. - It's true or not? - Sure, you can't follow. This would be me if my grandpa didn't leave Ukraine. I could be here instead.

00:13:49 - Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah, I ask because, you know, - Very accomplished. Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:13:57 [RUS-NEEDS] Василина [RUS-NEEDS] Василина [RUS-NEEDS] Скажите, что если консультации [RUS-NEEDS] то где-то после полчетвертого

00:14:21 Speaker 1: Especially then, it was close to, very close to the Soviet Union.

00:14:23 [RUS-NEEDS] или лучше завтра с утра [RUS-NEEDS] я в троих только что проконсультировал или завтра с утра

00:14:27 we have 50 minutes 50 to the Laura 50 minutes because in the 3 p.m. we will talk with Alex with our international colleague from Israel it's a p.m. that's why 53 minutes yeah Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always a difficult choice.

00:15:31 my daily routine yeah yeah maybe a lot of different and not need this okay yeah what what what what what things what is something need to remove can you

00:15:50 explain explain to me maybe I'm maybe close laptop

00:15:59 Speaker 3: treatments that don't help.

00:16:22 Speaker 3: That's terrible.

00:16:56 Speaker 3: there's always something else to look for right, you know when you're young you want to see your oh my god I think we're a lot less comfortable positions yeah it's a tough one Speaker 3: Yep. Speaker 2: Yes. Okay, so can you be sitting there? Probably. Would you want Andrew to put his hands on the desk and lean forward? Yeah, yeah.

00:17:32 Just a little more presence? So we're going to have you sit and lean forward in this. So we don't want you quite as relaxed.

00:17:38 You're just going to be... Is this? No, no. Lean forward.

00:17:44 [RUS-NEEDS] я василина с м

00:17:46 one more question with glasses maybe without yeah yeah what is my hair maybe it's it looks like

00:18:20 Anastasia should have the monitors.

00:18:36 It looks better. Looks good. Speaker 2: Are we going there? Speaker 2: Are we going there?

00:18:58 Yeah, yeah, that's good. also um in one of your uh in one of the news pieces you showed um um sort of shrapnel that you pulled from yeah the the brain do you have that handy to show during this or yeah

00:19:09 Speaker 2: And they still have to get ready, you know yourself. yes it's better if you will answer in ukrainian because i explained more details more

00:19:24 it's after that you can and we're gonna have honest to see us sit here yeah yeah okay

00:19:32 I can now show and maybe a bit later you ask me shows a metallic fragment which was removed from Speaker 2: I'm seeing you for the first time.

00:19:56 example yeah it exists and yes yes I Yeah, let me go... Thank you.

00:21:06 [RUS-NEEDS] Привет Никита.

00:21:38 Speaker 5: You said as soon as all the videos were done.

00:21:39 [RUS] No. [RUS-NEEDS] Нам не серьезно. [RUS-NEEDS] Говори.

00:21:44 Speaker 5: Sword.

00:21:45 [RUS] Good выглядишь. [RUS] Thank you. [RUS-NEEDS] Я знаю, я говорю, Юля, ты вот с собакой не за окном смотри и снимай Никиту, потому что, говорю, Староженко Катя уведет его. [RUS-NEEDS] Поменяет на Диму старенького Староженко. Дима так не может приседать и гирю поднимать, так как ты.

00:22:00 [RUS-NEEDS] Да, я рад, что ты сам дает.

00:22:06 [RUS-NEEDS] Дает? [RUS] Yes, yes. [RUS-NEEDS] Ну я рад видеть тебя. [RUS] Thank you. [RUS-NEEDS] Да, поэтому, вы почивай, набирайся сил. [RUS] Thank you старость.

00:22:15 I remember that they told me Logan is master of light. We haven't had much time to do any lighting on this.

00:22:24 Too much moving.

00:22:29 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is like no light at all.

00:22:39 Speaker 2: You make beer wines? okay this is normal yes is around me yeah but but if you perform empty table it will be it's not really you know it needs to feel like your table yeah you're off Speaker 5: Show me. need that yeah okay okay I probably could step out after a few minutes so you guys can be in here.

00:23:27 It's okay. I'll have to see if you can be here. I've got a chair right here. Speaker 5: [Sigh]

00:23:38 I'll probably watch a few minutes and then I'll just take the handheld monitor. Assuming there's not a lot of focus going here. Speaker 5: [Sigh] So you'll be more comfortable with one less person in here. It's normal.

00:23:55 Can you hand him this and have him trade out his mic? Do I switch your hedgehogs?

00:24:02 Do you want to trade the one that he's wearing, right? Thank you. He's got one on his desk here. Do you want this too? Sure. Is it rolling now? It's red. It's still rolling, right? It's rolling. Just have it hidden wherever it was behind. the the soldiers yeah something like that it well I had it facing the had it

00:24:22 Speaker 5: And if Filatov's people see and say, what are you doing?

00:00:00 Speaker 1: There you go.

00:00:00 Speaker 1: There you go. Speaker 1: Oh, Kitchcock. Speaker 1: Yes, there you go. Speaker 1: Uh-huh, uh-huh. Speaker 1: Perfect. Speaker 1: This? Speaker 2: For evening? Speaker 2: For evening? Speaker 1: Yeah, for evening. Speaker 1: Yeah, you can keep it with you. Speaker 1: Yep, yep, thank you. Speaker 1: Yep, yep, thank you. Speaker 1: Yes, okay. Speaker 1: Good stuff, thank you so much. Speaker 1: By the way, I was trying not to make eye contact with you because it's better for the shot for you to be looking at her. Speaker 1: So I wasn't paying attention.

00:00:38 Speaker 1: I promise.

00:00:40 [UKR] Speaker 3: Thank you. Good interview.

00:00:42 [RUS] Speaker 1: Is he the one saying that? I'm saying it. [RUS] Speaker 3: And him? He says he was trying not to look at you so he wouldn't distract me,

00:00:51 [RUS] Speaker 3: but he says he was listening very attentively. [RUS] Speaker 2: I promise. [RUS] Speaker 2: So, let's go. Yes, so I don't forget.

00:01:31 Speaker 2: Welcome. Speaker 1: I'm going to run change. Speaker 1: Can I carry anything back to you? Speaker 4: Uh, take this in style.

00:01:55 Speaker 4: [cough cough]

00:03:22 Speaker 5: You want this to stay. Speaker 5: You look good all the time.

00:03:43 Speaker 5: There you go, Alice. Speaker 4: You can just take it out and put it on the blue part. Speaker 4: That's sitting over where we were sitting earlier, you know, Speaker 4: about that window. Speaker 4: Thank you, Alice.

00:04:02 Speaker 4: The interview was good? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 2: I'm tired. Speaker 2: Tired? Speaker 2: Because today I have a speech at 13 minutes in the...

00:04:15 Speaker 4: Dude, you've been talking a lot today. Speaker 4: Yeah, the presentation. Speaker 2: Yes, it's a big race camp. Speaker 2: A lot of things I need to share my thoughts from all colleagues.

00:04:30 Speaker 4: What was the presentation you did in English as well? Speaker 2: Today is Ukrainian. Speaker 2: Oh, so that's a little easier, right, for you? Speaker 2: Yeah, very easy for me. Speaker 2: That's why I'm here. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 5: I'll get the setup ready. Speaker 2: Yeah.

00:04:54 Speaker 2: We can go to the bathroom and go to the bathroom. Speaker 5: Oh, I think you don't have to do it. Speaker 5: It will take them a long time. Speaker 5: It will take a long time for the photo equipment. Speaker 5: You have plenty of time to go to the bathroom. Speaker 5: Oh, a hedgehog. Speaker 5: Yeah, I will. Speaker 5: I will give her a hedgehog. Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's mine. Speaker 2: It's mine, we'll also give you, you know, there may be some part for dinner.

00:05:21 Speaker 2: It's a, I got from... Speaker 2: Okay, okay. All right. Speaker 2: Where is the key from my office, mate? Speaker 5: Oh, Anthony? Speaker 2: Do you think Anastasia has it? Speaker 2: I will check. Speaker 2: I will check. Speaker 2: Alex, and also take for Teddy. Speaker 2: Alex, and also take for Teddy. Speaker 2: Teddy, okay. Speaker 2: You can buy it. Speaker 2: You can buy it for Teddy.

00:07:08 Speaker 2: Thank you. Speaker 2: Thank you.

00:08:37 [UKR] Speaker 2: Thanks for watching!

00:09:08 Speaker 2: Thank you.

00:10:43 [RUS] Speaker 2: To be continued...

00:11:45 Speaker 2: Thank you. Speaker 2: [cough]

00:12:37 Speaker 2: Thank you.

00:13:20 [RUS] Speaker 2: You with her against and even I all not main here on empty

00:13:46 Speaker 5: Do you have your hitchhike? Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in Kosovo. Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in Kosovo.

00:13:53 [RUS] Speaker 3: You will probably go with the partners yourselves. Laura wants to go to the hotel to set up and dump all the material from the cards. [RUS] Speaker 3: You will probably go with the partners yourselves. Laura wants to go to the hotel to set up and dump all the material from the cards.

00:14:03 [RUS] Speaker 3: Logan will be a bit late when you arrive, and we'll join you soon. How long approximately will the evening last?

00:14:12 [RUS] Speaker 2: An hour and a half or two, I think. Who am I going with? Alex and Logan-Teddy. And you with Laura will come later. [RUS] Speaker 3: Yes, we'll come for half an hour so as not to suffer long, and then we'll head back. [RUS] Speaker 3: Uh-huh, uh-huh.

00:14:30 [RUS] Speaker 3: So as not to burden, and she wants to set up, transfer material, so it won't be long. [RUS] Speaker 2: Yes, I understand. Yesterday at our place and at home she also asked for a place to sit to transfer. [RUS] Speaker 2: They have these memory cards that they need to constantly see so there's nothing.

00:14:53 [UKR] Speaker 2: They, when they record in high quality, so they fill up quickly.

00:15:17 [RUS] Speaker 2: Plan of what.

00:15:18 [UKR] Speaker 2: Well, they were asking who we'll go home with. [UKR] Speaker 2: Alex, 7:30, should I pick you up?

00:15:27 [RUS] Speaker 2: Yes, I'll return for check-how. [RUS] Speaker 2: Check-how?

00:15:31 [UKR] Speaker 5: I'm riding on it, after dinner. [UKR] Speaker 2: Yes, I'm picking him up at 7:20, 7:30. [UKR] Speaker 2: We're going here, leaving the car. [UKR] Speaker 2: Tomorrow is consultation, then we have surgery. [UKR] Speaker 2: And we plan to get home in 4-5 hours.

00:15:46 [UKR] Speaker 2: To us and there by 9, by 9:30. 22:46, my train.

00:15:56 [RUS] Speaker 5: 22:46, I'll be waiting.

00:16:04 [UKR] Speaker 3: Tell me, maybe tomorrow we'll still film the rehabilitation block with you,

00:16:08 [UKR] Speaker 3: and you'll introduce us, because they can do it on Saturday after 15:00.

00:16:39 [RUS] Speaker 5: We wanted

00:16:47 [UKR] Speaker 2: They were planning to come this week for duty. Vadym Botikov and Artem.

00:16:54 [UKR] Speaker 3: They were planning, but it's still in development. [UKR] Speaker 2: They were planning to go to the cemetery. Let them say and we'll do everything. [UKR] Speaker 2: I'm just saying so they don't come and start filming.

00:17:08 [RUS] Speaker 2: And to the rehabilitation center, tomorrow you just remind me in the morning and I'll take you

00:17:40 Speaker 1: Oh, you know what I should take the, I probably have two Red Bulls when I wake up Speaker 5: Do you have the keys for these two hospital rooms? Speaker 5: I don't know Speaker 4: You go Speaker 4: This is Laura Speaker 4: I just asked Laura Speaker 4: They must be in this room Speaker 4: I do have the key out Speaker 4: You have it, okay Speaker 4: Here's your scrub pockets

00:18:00 Speaker 4: Oh, that's your black jacket, right? Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're going with you and the ladies are heading to the hotel briefly to drop some stuff off Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anastasia told me, explain to me your plan. Speaker 1: Yes. Yes, we have plans. Speaker 1: Yeah. Always. Let's go. Speaker 1: Can I carry anything more? Speaker 1: If you want to carry some things, I've got these.

00:18:27 Speaker 3: I've got a good one. Speaker 3: Let's get her.

00:18:30 Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 4: Go again. Speaker 4: I'm starting immediately. Speaker 4: Now, you mean? Speaker 3: I mean, you're not ready, but when you get to the restaurant. Speaker 4: Okay. Speaker 4: Okay. Speaker 4: Can I take a... Speaker 4: Do you want to pack up those comms, Laura? Speaker 4: They're sitting there. Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Speaker 4: Do we pack the other comms? Speaker 4: Yeah. Speaker 4: Okay.

00:19:00 Speaker 3: So, this is a picture. Speaker 3: Are you taking this case with us? Speaker 3: Or to the hotel. Speaker 3: Or to the hotel. Speaker 4: They can go to the hotel. Speaker 4: Okay, so... Speaker 2: I live here. Speaker 2: All right. Speaker 2: So...

00:19:16 Speaker 4: Let's go. Speaker 4: Check for batteries. Speaker 4: They don't mind skates.

00:19:30 Speaker 3: Are you taking two cameras with you to the restaurant?

00:19:34 Speaker 3: One yeah you can take this one to the hotel well if you're taking it to the hotel should I

00:19:42 Speaker 1: need the monitor I think because the monitor is not going to do any good with the yeah the FX6

00:19:58 Speaker 5: Maybe you can leave it around this car also.

00:20:00 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just keep this with me in case there's a battery. Speaker 2: We can leave something here. Speaker 2: No? What? Speaker 2: You almost said rubber. Speaker 2: Yes? Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna take the lenses with me, you got the batteries.

00:20:13 Speaker 4: The 7-inch monitor. Speaker 4: You sure you can go with all that stuff? Speaker 4: Alright, we'll see you. Speaker 2: Pelican. Speaker 4: That's it? That's it. Speaker 4: Okay, hopefully we'll see you soon. Speaker 4: See you. Thank you. Speaker 4: See you. Thank you. Speaker 4: We'll see you there. Speaker 4: Andrew, did I leave a coat at your house last night? Speaker 4: A black coat? Speaker 4: A black coat? Speaker 4: A black coat? Speaker 4: One more. Speaker 4: Did I leave a coat like this? Speaker 4: A black puffy coat at your house? Speaker 4: I saw a black puffy coat in 60s. Speaker 4: That was Laura's coat. Speaker 1: He lost his jacket. Speaker 5: Yeah, somewhere between the hospital and your house. Speaker 5: Yeah, somewhere between the hospital and your house. Speaker 5: Lost to the horse? Speaker 5: Yes, he thinks it's in here.

00:20:58 Speaker 4: Thank you.

00:21:00 Speaker 2: You lost your... Speaker 4: Maybe I left at your house or left in your car? Speaker 2: You can check my car now and at home tomorrow.

00:21:12 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, perfect.

00:21:28 Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 4: It looks exactly like the one before the person. Speaker 4: It was like a padded on your own. Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure it looks better. Speaker 4: It did, but...

00:22:20 Speaker 4: [cough] Speaker 2: Alex

00:23:11 Speaker 2: Thank you.

00:23:36 [RUS] Speaker 2: I don't have an umbrella and now checking inside

00:23:53 Speaker 4: Do you have an overhead light, Andrew?

00:24:08 Speaker 5: Do you have a light to the car? Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 2: Just one foot. Speaker 4: No coat down here? Speaker 4: No coat.

00:24:35 Speaker 1: I hope the team isn't too put out at us being late.

00:24:43 Speaker 1: Yep, he's the boss. Speaker 5: You know what RHIP stands for don't you? Speaker 1: RHIP? Speaker 5: Rank has its privileges.

00:24:59 Speaker 1: Somebody call my name? Speaker 1: Laura, what's up? Speaker 1: Uh oh. Speaker 1: Hey, are you guys still here? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 1: So, we're heading to the parking lot right now. Speaker 3: If it looks to give me the FX6 card that's full, that way I can do that. Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 1: While I'm... Speaker 1: While I'm... Speaker 1: We're facing the area you come straight out of when you come under the... Speaker 1: The light should be pointing at you when you come to the parking lot.

00:25:30 Speaker 1: Okay. Speaker 1: And Logan's... Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Alex, you wanna... Speaker 1: Can you hop out, Alex? Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Speaker 1: What can I do? Speaker 2: Alex, be careful. Speaker 2: Alex. Speaker 2: This car, carefully. Speaker 2: You can hit. Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it. Speaker 1: Here? Speaker 1: Are you coming to you? Speaker 1: Are you coming to you? Speaker 1: Alex has it. Speaker 1: Are you guys coming out right now? Speaker 1: Yeah, we're at the first floor.

00:25:59 Speaker 4: OK.

00:26:00 Speaker 4: They're on the first floor going towards the basement. Speaker 4: They'll be out in a second. Speaker 4: Thank you, Alex. Speaker 4: Thank you, Alex. Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you guys. Speaker 4: Cool. Speaker 4: Hi. Speaker 2: [cough] Speaker 4: I mean it is crazy how clean this camera looks at 12,800 ISO. Speaker 4: I know. Speaker 4: Like obviously the noise, I mean, I think the documentary is going to be noisy, that's

00:26:49 Speaker 4: just like I think it's a bit of aesthetic. Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 4: But it looks like just as noisy as like the Venice at the 2500 base ISO does. Speaker 1: It's uh, yeah, it's crazy. Speaker 1: The crazy sensor.

00:27:17 Speaker 1: Yeah, and not that you need it, that adding the 1.2 Voigtlander.

00:27:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just insane amount of low light capability.

00:27:32 [RUS] Speaker 1: I took several shots at 1.2 last night, and I just... [RUS] Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not...

00:27:42 [RUS] Speaker 1: It's not as if all the fights were.

00:27:47 [RUS] Speaker 2: Alex, it's not needed...

00:27:52 [RUS] Speaker 1: Oh, there's something. [RUS] Speaker 2: Oh, something you came.

00:27:58 Speaker 2: like damage to my car. Speaker 2: Let's go. Speaker 2: Let's go.

00:28:43 Speaker 4: One thing that's tough about this camera is because it's lighter it gets eaten up more. Speaker 4: When you're driving like the heavier camera.

00:28:52 Speaker 4: Anchors it, it's a lot harder. Speaker 5: It takes the bumps out. Speaker 5: It's not like shooting, you know? Speaker 5: women or people who aren't that strong say they want a smaller caliber gun because it doesn't kick as much.

00:29:06 Speaker 5: But actually some people say it's the opposite. You want the heavier one because of the weight. Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the heavier camera is much easier.

00:29:14 Speaker 4: Still. Speaker 1: I was kind of pointing back, building out those Speaker 1: We have little kits that I did for the smaller cameras on the spotlight. Speaker 1: We have some weight so they wouldn't whip around. Speaker 1: Ideally we would have...

00:29:52 Speaker 1: Alexa.

00:00:00 I had to talk to him about my final payment for Revolution's Daughter. I had to talk to him about my final payment for Revolution's Daughter. I told him that you were coming with me and he didn't want to know what you were costing. I told him that. I was like, "You don't want to know."

00:00:33 You wouldn't believe it.

00:00:39 Okay. Yeah. So Alex, we'll have to ask Anastasia about the answer, or Andre himself can tell us, but I did have her bring up your Michael DeBakey kind of thought and comment.

00:01:26 Oh yeah. Yeah. And I don't know Michael DeBakey, but a friend of mine who's a, I guess he's, he works at He's a doctor and does, you know, children with patients and whatnot. Anyway, but he's also like a part-time documentarian. He did a documentary on Debakey. So, I followed him a little closer than some.

00:02:07 So my first faculty spot was fresh out of residency at Baylor College of Medicine where Tebeke was. And our chairman of neurosurgery had this happen that whenever he'd go out of town, he would ask one of the younger attendings to cover his patients. And he had his own chief resident, his own nurse, so things pretty much ran on autopilot, but you were there just in case. And so one evening, you know, some weeknight, Wednesday or Thursday, I get a page. It is from the answer service. They say they have a new consult for the doctor who is my chair, Dr. Grossman. It's a consult from Dr. Tabakey. I want his patients. But it, they don't want it that night. It has to be in the morning. I said, okay. So I called the chief president and, you know, let him know.

00:03:01 So the next day comes and the chief president goes by. Turns out this guy is a prince from Saudi Arabia. And what they do is, you know, the hospitals have these, like, luxury floors. Have you ever been there? So it's a basic hospital, but then they have a suite that looks like the whole floor that looks like the Four Seasons or Ritz-Carlton or something. Patients pay extra for that, obviously, so many hundred dollars per day. So it's still a functional hospital room, but very, very upper class. So this print they apparently bought out like the whole floor. And I was told that what they do is these guys from the Middle East would tell their families they're going to have tests by the famous Dr. DeBakey. And then they check into these luxury rooms, which is like a hotel. And then they go out partying and drinking and going to strip clubs and stuff you couldn't do in the Middle East.

00:03:54 So when my chief resident went by to wake him up, he said, no, the prince hasn't seen doctors yet.

00:03:59 He was up late last night. He's sleeping it off.

00:04:04 So Logan, the big, he either performed, did he did first heart replacement or first open heart? No, he was, he actually got beaten out by the first heart transplant. He was just a big pioneering vascular surgeon and, you know, hardworking guy, technically very, very good.

00:04:22 Claude Bernard, I think. Claude Bernard, I think. Yeah, Bernard, South Africa. Yeah, from South Africa. Yeah, and De Beke, you know, kind of had a big ego and worked hard, had a publicist.

00:04:33 So he saw a member of the royal family like in the 1960s or 70s who flew out to him. And after that collapse of the Soviet Union, who was it? Was it Boris Yeltsin? Who they thought he was too sick to undergo some major surgery. So De Beke flew over there and said no the Russian president is fine, he's healthy. He actually did a lot. He was a military veteran, so he helped the army a lot.

00:05:01 So the VA hospital in Houston, so Michael DeBakey...

00:05:04 [UKR] "Cheres 200 metrów powernіть prawo roczna wuliça Kharkivska."

00:05:10 And yet he would live in a nice house, but not elaborate. Apparently they told me he drove some Volkswagen Rabbit or something like that.

00:05:18 Very modest car.

00:05:45 [UKR] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] [NEEDS_TRANSLATION] Ви рушайте на північний схід по вулиця Барикадна у напрямку до вулиця Шовтарова.

00:05:51 I don't think I thought of you as such. But inside it's a raging furnace.

00:06:01 Your emotions are roiling? That's right. I just wish the voices would stop torturing me. What do they say? You're not good enough? Or you're too good? You're making other people look bad?

00:06:24 How did you get over your biggest fears, Alex? You can see, Alex, you can talk about Minora. It's a Minora center. It's a Minora center.

00:06:36 That's a good question, Daniels. I think a lot of it comes with time and age and wisdom. Somewhere along the way, I became one of those guys where even like associate professor level people in other departments still call me Sir and Dr. Velodka, which is kind of funny. When we were going to some function with the residents once at some evening dinner, and